9/11 Evidence?

[Viktorkrum77]

pault did you even read what i typed? that took a long time and i feel like you just said "i don't care what the laws of physics say...i still say the government did it!"

 

 

 

I feel the same when not a single conspiracy theorist bothers to come up with a hypothesis. It almost makes you wonder why bother, if they aren't going to prove their point then why take them seriously?

[magekillr]

agreed

 

 

 

they're like hippies that complain about how much the government sucks when they don't take a stand or do anything about it but smoke weed

 

 

 

stereotype for a second...but i felt it was necessary

[Viktorkrum77]

agreed

 

 

 

they're like hippies that complain about how much the government sucks when they don't take a stand or do anything about it but smoke weed

 

 

 

stereotype for a second...but i felt it was necessary

 

 

 

Or the people who protest the war and the Bush Administration. I mean, I don't like it either but protesting won't do anything because you have no reasonable solution.

[fakeitormakeit]

When something big like 9/11 happens there will always be a conspiracy theory.

[magekillr]

When something big like 9/11 happens there will always be a conspiracy theory.

 

 

 

dude that's preposterous

 

 

 

we didn't land on the moon...it happened in Hollywood

 

 

 

oh...and the Titanic didn't sink at all..we planted a boat out there

[Viktorkrum77]

When something big like 9/11 happens there will always be a conspiracy theory.

 

 

 

dude that's preposterous

 

 

 

we didn't land on the moon...it happened in Hollywood

 

 

 

oh...and the Titanic didn't sink at all..we planted a boat out there

 

 

 

I wonder if a Titanic conspiracy exists. :-k That would be hilarious! :P

[magekillr]

When something big like 9/11 happens there will always be a conspiracy theory.

 

 

 

dude that's preposterous

 

 

 

we didn't land on the moon...it happened in Hollywood

 

 

 

oh...and the Titanic didn't sink at all..we planted a boat out there

 

 

 

I wonder if a Titanic conspiracy exists. :-k That would be hilarious! :P

 

 

 

actually...

 

 

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI ... stitanic0d

 

 

 

man thinks they sunk it on purpose to claim funds from insurance companies

[Jaret]

My take on the whole subject, if the government really did plan 9/11 then the people that are making conspiracies about it would be wiped off the face of the earth. The government has the power to do that and would if they felt threatened. Besides people saying the government did it and it was actually bombs, I say you're pathetic if you believe that. The security would have picked up bombs, multiple bombs at that. They say bombs caused it to fall, what about the 20, or so, ton plane that hit the middle of the building?

[lordkrohn1626]

Many people have tons (and I do mean tons) of conspiriaces of the government. At first, I believed people was full of BS. Honestly, why would the government attack THEMSELFS?

 

 

 

Yet.. the more I watch video's about 9/11 and certain evidence people have found on 9/11. The more I do begin to question the actually occurance.

 

 

 

Considering Terrisom today, the most you see your average joe terriost do is smart enough to blow up a car parked on the side of the road. Have you heard of anymore sophisticated attacks than that?

 

 

 

So how could these guys possible get away with highjacking 3 american planes and attack the trade centers so effiectively?

 

 

 

Here is a video I found which is quite intresting. It is documented that the WTC 7 collasped at 5:20 PM.

 

 

 

However, BBC News Reports in london that this building has collasped 23 minutes PRIOR to its actually destruction.

 

 

 

How can you possible report on a event that has not occured yet? Its funny to see the line of the lady cut. Heres the vid.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2yJAEMs ... ed&search=

 

 

 

This is probably the most intresting and reguardable evidence I have ever seen to date. Enjoy.

 

 

 

~Defender~

 

 

 

*applauds* Wow! dangit you caught us! sigh, well I guess the jig is up fellow Americans, the World has caught us in our massive conspiracy to kill 3,000+ of our own citizens!

 

 

 

yup, you're the man, the 9/11 event, (oh by the way it was 4 planes, not 3 Mr. fact gatherer) the Holocaust never happened, the world is truly flat, the Bible is without errors, the Great Flood actually happened, and we never landed on the moon. If you truly believe all that, I'd love to sell you the Eiffel Tower.

[pault]

BBC reported collapse of WTC7 early:

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... cleId=4972

[Mercifull]

BBC reported collapse of WTC7 early:

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... cleId=4972

Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish.

 

 

 

How about you listen to what the BBC have to say themselves before believing that crap. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2 ... acy_2.html

[pault]

It is rubbish to see a reporter standing in front of a building and say it just collapsed. It is rubbish for a major news corporation to say they "Lost the tapes" of the largest news event of the century. It is not rubbish to bring these things up.

 

 

 

How many intelligent people have responded to the sudden disintegration of 7 World Trade Center with something akin to: "It sure looks like demolition, but I'm no physicist". Somewhere in the fog over which side owns the most credible experts, most everyone seems to have forgotten that it doesn't require an expert to tell the difference between controlled demolition and a towering inferno. Prior to September 11, 2001, no human has ever confused one for the other, because these types of occurrences have relatively little in common.

 

 

 

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[Locke]

I'm curious, pault, why would the United States attack itself in 9/11? What benefit would they gain?

[Viktorkrum77]

It is rubbish to see a reporter standing in front of a building and say it just collapsed. It is rubbish for a major news corporation to say they "Lost the tapes" of the largest news event of the century. It is not rubbish to bring these things up.

 

 

 

First off, you use biased websites that can't even be tested for accuracy. Next, you have no idea how hectic the news business is, especially if you consider the events. It'd be 10x harder to fake it and lie, but why would BBC put themselves at such risk? Especially since they operate in the UK, why would the government get more people, especially an ally involved? Answer that.

[pault]

I'm curious, pault, why would the United States attack itself in 9/11? What benefit would they gain?

 

 

 

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[Viktorkrum77]

Dude, hello? If anything happened at all it'd be under the carpet and not available to the mass media. If the media was involved then they'd be milking this story like you for all it's worth. And why do you propose CNN would've found anything out? The biggest disaster would be to give any information to the media. And if CNN was involved, why bring BBC into it too? Were they hoping a huge conspiracy would raise their stocks?

 

 

 

You have a serious issue with not giving any real reason behind any of this, or for that matter answering most of these questions.

[pault]

Dude, hello? If anything happened at all it'd be under the carpet and not available to the mass media. If the media was involved then they'd be milking this story like you for all it's worth. And why do you propose CNN would've found anything out? The biggest disaster would be to give any information to the media. And if CNN was involved, why bring BBC into it too? Were they hoping a huge conspiracy would raise their stocks?

 

 

 

You have a serious issue with not giving any real reason behind any of this, or for that matter answering most of these questions.

 

 

 

The "Reason" you ask for is above. It's clearly outline in PNAC documents.

 

 

 

The media is involved. They reported on "Operation Iraqi Freedom"...as if all of Iraq was a giant slave camp. More than half a million innocent Iraqis have died since the US invasion and occupation This is an example of media bias.

 

 

 

How much coverage does the miraculous collapse of WTC7 get on the media? None. Zero. Zip. And do you know how amazing it is for a skyscraper to collapse? It's pretty amazing. And it's not as if the collapse of WTC7 was even mention in the "9/11 Commission Report" the supposed authoritive document on the terrorist attacks. The government has yet to explain how it fell. This is big news. But the media is silent. This is an example of media blackout.

 

 

 

Now I don't agree with you that the "Biggest disaster would be to give any information to the media". By giving reports to the media that WTC7 was on fire, that it was nearing collapse, etc...it suggests to people that the collapse was plausible. The footage was only played once on TV while the collapse of the twin towers was played over and over again. The government doesn't need to black out the media completely, a little misinformation goes a long way.

[Mercifull]

Any you any idea how many tapes the BBC has? Theres 9 BBC channels now running almost 24 hours a day. So every day there are 216 hours of programming recorded onto tapes ontop of their other tape archives are prerecorded programs. Do you know how many hours that is of tapes since 9/11...? 440,640 hours... Perhaps you would like to volenteer to look through them all?

 

 

 

Do you expect the BBC to have easy access to every single minute of every single program ever shown on TV?

 

 

 

There are literally thoousands of tapes of BBC recordings lost. entire series of Doctor Who missing and live televisions broadcasts which noone has ever found the tapes for.

 

 

 

You really are incredibly and dangerously naieve. Can you please stop just posting one liner comments and a link and actually explain your opinions in your own writing without quoting other people? Maybe then while writing it you will realise how absurd it all is.

[lordkrohn1626]

Dude, hello? If anything happened at all it'd be under the carpet and not available to the mass media. If the media was involved then they'd be milking this story like you for all it's worth. And why do you propose CNN would've found anything out? The biggest disaster would be to give any information to the media. And if CNN was involved, why bring BBC into it too? Were they hoping a huge conspiracy would raise their stocks?

 

 

 

You have a serious issue with not giving any real reason behind any of this, or for that matter answering most of these questions.

 

 

 

The "Reason" you ask for is above. It's clearly outline in PNAC documents.

 

 

 

The media is involved. They reported on "Operation Iraqi Freedom"...as if all of Iraq was a giant slave camp. More than half a million innocent Iraqis have died since the US invasion and occupation This is an example of media bias.

 

 

 

How much coverage does the miraculous collapse of WTC7 get on the media? None. Zero. Zip. And do you know how amazing it is for a skyscraper to collapse? It's pretty amazing. And it's not as if the collapse of WTC7 was even mention in the "9/11 Commission Report" the supposed authoritive document on the terrorist attacks. The government has yet to explain how it fell. This is big news. But the media is silent. This is an example of media blackout.

 

 

 

Now I don't agree with you that the "Biggest disaster would be to give any information to the media". By giving reports to the media that WTC7 was on fire, that it was nearing collapse, etc...it suggests to people that the collapse was plausible. The footage was only played once on TV while the collapse of the twin towers was played over and over again. The government doesn't need to black out the media completely, a little misinformation goes a long way.

 

 

 

Allow me to clarify something for you..We don't have media blackout in America. We don't have Media control in America....wish we did sometimes...you can't hide crap from these story hungry vultures...not Monica Lewinsky, not the blue dress, not Abu Grahbi, nothing...they ferret out every single thread of a story, and when in doubt, they make it up as they go along, anything for a headline....so if you seriously think we blew up our own buildings with innocent men, women and children inside, just to incite the world, and gather support for a "War for Oil" :roll: you might want to reconsider. You can surf the net and find a conspiracy theory for everything...they can show you convincing evidence that the world is flat, we never landed on the moon, the great flood really happened, and the moon is made of green cheese...at some point you got to use your noggin.

 

Don't believe the hype.

 

 

 

and on your Iraqi comment..how much time you spent in Iraq? I have been here now since November of 2006...eye opening experience if I do say so. We aren't killing the innocent...they are killing each other, they have no problem leaving their kids in the car, and walking away to blow it up just to kill a few of their own people, and maybe even an american or two. They leave their kids in the car now, so we don't suspect it is a bomb. Before we got here, hundreds of thousands were massacred at the whim of a madman.....oh by the way, he's dead now and so are his sons. They assaulted, abducted and murdered many many people. Speak not of what you know little of.

[Viktorkrum77]

My aunt and uncle seriously went on a vacation to Iraq a few years ago, they're crazy. :o

 

 

 

Anyways, he still never explained why CNN would get Britain involved. Or were the attacks on Britain also an inside job?

 

 

 

It's bogus, it's just random evidence and none of it adds up. And to Lord Krohn, I'm glad to have someone here who really has any idea what's going on. :)

[lordkrohn1626]

My aunt and uncle seriously went on a vacation to Iraq a few years ago, they're crazy. :o

 

 

 

Anyways, he still never explained why CNN would get Britain involved. Or were the attacks on Britain also an inside job?

 

 

 

It's bogus, it's just random evidence and none of it adds up. And to Lord Krohn, I'm glad to have someone here who really has any idea what's going on. :)

 

 

 

Thanks, haven't had oppotunity to be on boards for a bit, just spent some more time crawling the streets in happyland. Back on board the carrier for some R&R. A lot of people have uneducated opinions about what's going on here, and the severely biased media plays what sells the most hype. Just the nature of the beast.

[Viktorkrum77]

My aunt and uncle seriously went on a vacation to Iraq a few years ago, they're crazy. :o

 

 

 

Anyways, he still never explained why CNN would get Britain involved. Or were the attacks on Britain also an inside job?

 

 

 

It's bogus, it's just random evidence and none of it adds up. And to Lord Krohn, I'm glad to have someone here who really has any idea what's going on. :)

 

 

 

Thanks, haven't had oppotunity to be on boards for a bit, just spent some more time crawling the streets in happyland. Back on board the carrier for some R&R. A lot of people have uneducated opinions about what's going on here, and the severely biased media plays what sells the most hype. Just the nature of the beast.

 

 

 

Media's horrible, but it's the only source Americans use sadly. I believe the army actually has a YouTube account with videos that show a better perspective on things.

[lordkrohn1626]

My aunt and uncle seriously went on a vacation to Iraq a few years ago, they're crazy. :o

 

 

 

Anyways, he still never explained why CNN would get Britain involved. Or were the attacks on Britain also an inside job?

 

 

 

It's bogus, it's just random evidence and none of it adds up. And to Lord Krohn, I'm glad to have someone here who really has any idea what's going on. :)

 

 

 

Thanks, haven't had oppotunity to be on boards for a bit, just spent some more time crawling the streets in happyland. Back on board the carrier for some R&R. A lot of people have uneducated opinions about what's going on here, and the severely biased media plays what sells the most hype. Just the nature of the beast.

 

 

 

Media's horrible, but it's the only source Americans use sadly. I believe the army actually has a YouTube account with videos that show a better perspective on things.

 

 

 

location Dubai huh, we went there 3 times so far, only safe place to hang out over here, that big shark fin looking hotel is ridiculous :) the whole place is booming, new construction everywhere for miles, all fancy skyscrapers.....you should see the two big malls here, one has an indoor skiing slope for heavens sake, and the inside looks like outside, stars in the ceiling, and each store front looks like the front of a eurpoean street. Each hall is a different country motif, freaking wild. Food isn't to great though, I went to the Tony Romas and ordered a rack of ribs...to this day I dont know what animal it was...probably camel rofl. wide flat ribs....*gag*......pretty wild in Dubai....money everywhere.

[Viktorkrum77]

And a 180 story (800m) building almost done, 2 palms with 2,000 villas each almost finished, the world is almost done, and the Palm Deria is to be 80 Kilos squared when finished. 15% of the world's cranes are in Dubai. It's pretty insane, the entire place. It's actualy quite amazing, they've pretty much sold all the residential properties on both palms and half the world, which is why they're building another one.

 

 

 

Oh, and then there's the underwater hotel.

 

 

 

Oh, I don't actually live there, lol, my bad. I usually fill my location with my dream locations. I live in Michigan :(

[pault]

There are literally thoousands of tapes of BBC recordings lost. entire series of Doctor Who missing and live televisions broadcasts which noone has ever found the tapes for.

 

 

 

You really are incredibly and dangerously naieve. Can you please stop just posting one liner comments and a link and actually explain your opinions in your own writing without quoting other people? Maybe then while writing it you will realise how absurd it all is.

 

 

 

You're comparing Doctor Who to 9/11 and I'm dangerously naieve. Ok, sure. And 9/11 was the most important news moment of the 21st century, I don't think the BBC lost their tapes. And if they did, so what? All of this is secondary to the fact that WTC7 was not destroyed by fire or by debris from the falling North Tower.

 

 

 

 

 

Allow me to clarify something for you..We don't have media blackout in America. We don't have Media control in America....wish we did sometimes...you can't hide crap from these story hungry vultures...not Monica Lewinsky, not the blue dress, not Abu Grahbi, nothing...they ferret out every single thread of a story, and when in doubt, they make it up as they go along, anything for a headline....so if you seriously think we blew up our own buildings with innocent men, women and children inside, just to incite the world, and gather support for a "War for Oil" Rolling Eyes you might want to reconsider. You can surf the net and find a conspiracy theory for everything...they can show you convincing evidence that the world is flat, we never landed on the moon, the great flood really happened, and the moon is made of green cheese...at some point you got to use your noggin.

 

Don't believe the hype.

 

 

 

The media reports what they want you to know, not what you want to know. Sure, Monica Lewinsky was a big scandal, but JFK had just as many trysts and the media did not report on these, though they could have. Everything is politics and image.

 

 

 

 

 

Now I'm going to "Use my noggin" and question: Why did WTC7 fall?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and on your Iraqi comment..how much time you spent in Iraq? I have been here now since November of 2006...eye opening experience if I do say so. We aren't killing the innocent...they are killing each other, they have no problem leaving their kids in the car, and walking away to blow it up just to kill a few of their own people, and maybe even an american or two. They leave their kids in the car now, so we don't suspect it is a bomb. Before we got here, hundreds of thousands were massacred at the whim of a madman.....oh by the way, he's dead now and so are his sons. They assaulted, abducted and murdered many many people. Speak not of what you know little of.

 

 

 

I have not spent any time in Iraq. Saddam was a terrible person, ok. Yet he was sold his chemical weapons by the US, and was installed into power by the CIA.

 

http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

 

 

 

I don't support the troops. Sorry. Military adventurism goes against the principles upon which my country, the United States, was founded. I do support human life.

 

 

 

 

 

A lot of people have uneducated opinions about what's going on here, and the severely biased media plays what sells the most hype. Just the nature of the beast.

 

 

 

The media doesn't report the truth. It reports what sells. You're right. The fact that the government can't explain how World Trade Center 7 fell doesn't sell. The fact that there are thousands of mercenaries in Iraq doesn't sell. And the fact that there are good things happening in Iraq (such as the building of schools and churches, getting power and sewage set up, etc..) doesn't sell, why? Because there is no school in Iraq that is worth the life of an American citizen.