Potentially habitable planet found

[assassin_696]

it's a wormhole...not a black hole

Theres no such thing as a wormhole...is a theory. The theory is that a wormhole lys in the middle of a blackhole. Depisoting everything the blackhole sucks in some where else. Now we know theres black holes out there as we x-rayed a bank spot in the univese and saw this big thing sucking stuff in, just theres no way to tell if theres a wormhole in it. The theory seems right because if there was nothing there then the black hole would suck in everything and compact into a a little ball thats denser then anything we know of...let me put it into somthing you might under stand, if there was nothing taking away the junk the blackhole sucked up then the WHOLE earth would be compated into a little 1x1 inch square...think about that the WHOLE earth in a little 1 by 1 inch square. So there must be somthing in the middle thats linked some where else depositing it at the other end of the universe, thus support that the univere is never ending.

 

 

 

Pfft, don't act so superior, black holes were a theory for a long time until they could be proved. Just because something is only in the theoretical stage doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I admit, wormholes sound very far fetched, but so did black holes.

 

 

 

Also, you're black hole physics is a little off, I think. It isn't really generally accepted that there is a wormhole at the centre of every black hole, instead the solutions describe a gravitational singularity, a point of infinite density/matter/gravitational attraction etc. You said that the Earth would be compacted into a 1x1 inch square. That's incorrect, a singularity compacts infinite density into an infinitely small point. Your final point about there "having to be" somewhere for the matter to go is still very debateable.

 

 

 

It's been hypothesised that an infinitely advanced civilisation might be able to extrapolate wormholes from the quantum foam and maintain them with "exotic material" with a negative energy density. No chance of us doing it though.

 

 

 

Thirdly, it has been hypothesised that wormholes could

[Biabf]

The world beyond ours is interesting. there's a cloud of alcohol with enough to fill several trillion glasses of beer. Its free for the taking -- but it's 10 billion (or million?) light years from earth.

 

Astronomers say they have spotted a cloud of alcohol in deep space that measures 463 billion kilometres across, a finding that could shed light on how giant stars are formed from primordial gas....

 

...Methanol, an organic (carbon-based) molecule, is a cousin of ethanol, which is found in alcoholic beverages.

 

 

 

Methanol is not suitable for human consumption.

Undrinkable sadly, no unlimited beer for us #-o

 

 

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200604/s1607840.htm

[Satenza]

The world beyond ours is interesting. there's a cloud of alcohol with enough to fill several trillion glasses of beer. Its free for the taking -- but it's 10 billion (or million?) light years from earth.

 

Astronomers say they have spotted a cloud of alcohol in deep space that measures 463 billion kilometres across, a finding that could shed light on how giant stars are formed from primordial gas....

 

...Methanol, an organic (carbon-based) molecule, is a cousin of ethanol, which is found in alcoholic beverages.

 

 

 

Methanol is not suitable for human consumption.

Undrinkable sadly, no unlimited beer for us #-o

 

 

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200604/s1607840.htm

 

 

 

No sutible for human comsumption? That sounds like a dare!

[Pur3_s0uls]

haha i just read that article in that link u gave us, and it said that 581 c rotates around its star every 13 days, which means ppl would have b-days every 13 days! i wouldn't mind living on that planet lmao.

[The Dark Lord]

haha i just read that article in that link u gave us, and it said that 581 c rotates around its star every 13 days, which means ppl would have b-days every 13 days! i wouldn't mind living on that planet lmao.

 

 

 

At least you wouldn't age that fast. :

[Barihawk]

And who says the planet might be too warm for life? EVen if it's slightly warmer than our planet, it doesn't mean its inhabitants cannot withstand it.

Theres creatures on earth that exist deep in the ocean by the underwater volcano type things. I belive it was Sam Neil in Jurassic Park that said "Life finds a way" :D

 

 

 

Actually, it was Jeff Goldblum. Sam Neil quoted him later.

 

 

 

But yes, God finds a way to care for all his creatures. All deep sea creatures are omnivores that survive on eating eachother and deep-sea algae that grow from the heat generated by these vents. True, no light gets down there, so they make their own!

 

 

 

It's possible that the same could be true of this planet.

[Captainkidd]

it's a wormhole...not a black hole

Theres no such thing as a wormhole...is a theory. The theory is that a wormhole lys in the middle of a blackhole. Depisoting everything the blackhole sucks in some where else. Now we know theres black holes out there as we x-rayed a bank spot in the univese and saw this big thing sucking stuff in, just theres no way to tell if theres a wormhole in it. The theory seems right because if there was nothing there then the black hole would suck in everything and compact into a a little ball thats denser then anything we know of...let me put it into somthing you might under stand, if there was nothing taking away the junk the blackhole sucked up then the WHOLE earth would be compated into a little 1x1 inch square...think about that the WHOLE earth in a little 1 by 1 inch square. So there must be somthing in the middle thats linked some where else depositing it at the other end of the universe, thus support that the univere is never ending.

 

 

 

Pfft, don't act so superior, black holes were a theory for a long time until they could be proved. Just because something is only in the theoretical stage doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I admit, wormholes sound very far fetched, but so did black holes.

 

 

 

Also, you're black hole physics is a little off, I think. It isn't really generally accepted that there is a wormhole at the centre of every black hole, instead the solutions describe a gravitational singularity, a point of infinite density/matter/gravitational attraction etc. You said that the Earth would be compacted into a 1x1 inch square. That's incorrect, a singularity compacts infinite density into an infinitely small point. Your final point about there "having to be" somewhere for the matter to go is still very debateable.

 

 

 

It's been hypothesised that an infinitely advanced civilisation might be able to extrapolate wormholes from the quantum foam and maintain them with "exotic material" with a negative energy density. No chance of us doing it though.

 

 

 

Thirdly, it has been hypothesised that wormholes could

I wasn't acting like I was smarter then every one. I just didn't know if people could understand what I wrote because I could barly understand it, and blackholes are there. We know they are, we don't know what they do but they do. If your trying to say blackholes arn't there then your mentaly [developmentally delayed]ed, because no one knew about blackholes until some one sent a x-ray out in to space and saw this HUGE ball that looked like it was sucking stuff in, thus it got named a blackhole. The theory came after it, so there are blackholes out there.

[theidiot11]

Still think we can reach this planet?

 

Yes, sense we can reach about 1/10 of the speed of light.

 

 

So if what your saying is true, we move at over 67,061,662 (67 Million+)MPH? Our fastest space probe ever was 150,000 MPH. Theres a big difference there.

[assassin_696]

I wasn't acting like I was smarter then every one. I just didn't know if people could understand what I wrote because I could barly understand it, and blackholes are there. We know they are, we don't know what they do but they do. If your trying to say blackholes arn't there then your mentaly [developmentally delayed], because no one knew about blackholes until some one sent a x-ray out in to space and saw this HUGE ball that looked like it was sucking stuff in, thus it got named a blackhole. The theory came after it, so there are blackholes out there.

 

 

 

Check your black hole history, they were observed long after the theorists proved them as a solution to Einstein's field equations, namely Karl Schwarzchild (known as a Schwarzchild singularity). John Wheeler coined the term black hole.

 

 

 

No one sent an x-ray into space. We sent satellites into space which could observe x-rays, showing the shock front of hot gases spiralling into black holes from another star in a binary pair.

[Continuum]

I'm just curious... Why don't we send a radio message to the planet? It would take approximately 20.5 years and if any civilization exists... They might receive it and transmit something back. If not, then possibly the civilization isn't advanced enough to care about or doesn't exist at all.

 

 

 

I read that in Contact. lol

 

 

 

Radio messages travel at the speed of light?

 

 

 

Just curious here, but how long would it take to send a radio message to this planet, assuming it gets there without being interrupted by some sort of hole.

 

 

 

*Has no understanding of physics in the slightest*

[Barihawk]

I'm just curious... Why don't we send a radio message to the planet? It would take approximately 20.5 years and if any civilization exists... They might receive it and transmit something back. If not, then possibly the civilization isn't advanced enough to care about or doesn't exist at all.

 

 

 

I read that in Contact. lol

 

 

 

Radio messages travel at the speed of light?

 

 

 

Just curious here, but how long would it take to send a radio message to this planet, assuming it gets there without being interrupted by some sort of hole.

 

 

 

*Has no understanding of physics in the slightest*

 

 

 

Radio travels just under the speed of light in a vaccuum. A ballpark figure to travel 22.2 light years would be maybe 25-30 years?

[Somnambulism]

Wouldn't propagation of a radio message pose a problem? By the time it got there it would have been scattered such a huge amount that it would be unnoticeable.

[Barihawk]

It would still cause squelch at the same frequency it was broadcast at. Whether the message came through crystal clear or a high-pitched squelch is besides the point. The signal would be determined as man-made.

[The Dark Lord]

I also have a question. I read in Contact that TV programs could drift into space... As in the radio waves from the TV broadcasts could exit the planet and go into space and it was possible for the radio waves to be arranged to create a picture.

 

 

 

I know the author of the book said that it was supposed to be realistic and that he even got a person well-learned in physics to create likely scenarios or something. So I'm not sure if the above is just fiction or has a little scientific truth mixed in it.

[assassin_696]

I also have a question. I read in Contact that TV programs could drift into space... As in the radio waves from the TV broadcasts could exit the planet and go into space and it was possible for the radio waves to be arranged to create a picture.

 

 

 

I know the author of the book said that it was supposed to be realistic and that he even got a person well-learned in physics to create likely scenarios or something. So I'm not sure if the above is just fiction or has a little scientific truth mixed in it.

 

 

 

Perfectly accurate. That's why we had the discussion about that planet getting our 80's TV shows about now. :P

[Fuzimatt]

wow thats cool now if they would only find one closer

[Biabf]

I'm just curious... Why don't we send a radio message to the planet? It would take approximately 20.5 years and if any civilization exists... They might receive it and transmit something back. If not, then possibly the civilization isn't advanced enough to care about or doesn't exist at all.

 

 

 

I read that in Contact. lol

 

 

 

Radio messages travel at the speed of light?

 

 

 

Just curious here, but how long would it take to send a radio message to this planet, assuming it gets there without being interrupted by some sort of hole.

 

 

 

*Has no understanding of physics in the slightest*

 

 

 

Radio travels just under the speed of light in a vaccuum. A ballpark figure to travel 22.2 light years would be maybe 25-30 years?

So far everywhere I've read has said it's 20.5 light years. Did they change it to 22.2 or something?

[Barihawk]

Sorry, got the wrong number in my head. Also had the urge to say 22.7.

 

 

 

For all intents and purposes, let's use the term "around 20."

[warri0r45]

I'm just curious... Why don't we send a radio message to the planet? It would take approximately 20.5 years and if any civilization exists... They might receive it and transmit something back. If not, then possibly the civilization isn't advanced enough to care about or doesn't exist at all.

 

 

 

I read that in Contact. lol

 

 

 

Radio messages travel at the speed of light?

 

 

 

Just curious here, but how long would it take to send a radio message to this planet, assuming it gets there without being interrupted by some sort of hole.

 

 

 

*Has no understanding of physics in the slightest*

 

 

 

Radio travels just under the speed of light in a vaccuum. A ballpark figure to travel 22.2 light years would be maybe 25-30 years?

 

 

 

Lower frequency electromagnetic radiation travels slower? Not sure about that, hence why I'm asking. :P

[Barihawk]

Good question. I've heard radio travels at the speed of light, but Relativity would leave it at infinitely just before the threshhold.

 

 

 

That's why inverse static warp fields are the only stable way to cross the threshhold. Relativity screws with everything else.