Potentially habitable planet found

[Zonorhc]

Picard would. Kirk, Sisko, Janeway and Archer would kick his [wagon]. Well, Archer might have a tough time without shields. But Phasers > railguns and nukes anyday. :P

 

Phasers are variable yield weapons and require particular frequencies.

 

 

 

A railgun does not care about frequencies.

 

 

 

Hell, ST wouldn't have so much problem with the Borg if they had a shred of sense and actually used KE penetrators rather than sticking to energy weapons.

[Barihawk]

Picard would. Kirk, Sisko, Janeway and Archer would kick his [wagon]. Well, Archer might have a tough time without shields. But Phasers > railguns and nukes anyday. :P

 

Phasers are variable yield weapons and require particular frequencies.

 

 

 

A railgun does not care about frequencies.

 

 

 

Hell, ST wouldn't have so much problem with the Borg if they had a shred of sense and actually used KE penetrators rather than sticking to energy weapons.

 

 

 

They actually designed rifles for anti-Borg use but they never went into service for some reason.

 

 

 

KE weapons still can not penetrate the shields, and probably would bounce off the armor. And the nukes wouldnt get past the shielding in the first place.

[Tomato]

The world beyond ours is interesting. there's a cloud of alcohol with enough to fill several trillion glasses of beer. Its free for the taking -- but it's 10 billion (or million?) light years from earth.

 

 

 

Alcohol is organic... :-k

[warri0r45]

The world beyond ours is interesting. there's a cloud of alcohol with enough to fill several trillion glasses of beer. Its free for the taking -- but it's 10 billion (or million?) light years from earth.

 

 

 

Alcohol is organic... :-k

 

 

 

And also toxic to every organ in the human body... o_0

[bbalking]

The article says that Mars also fits the description for a hospitable planet, but obviously isn't. Given that the planet in question goes around a sun so much smaller than ours, I don't think it would be warm enough. But what do I know, it's not like I can just counter all of this news like that. Personally though, I'm doubting it's of any significance as cool as it'd be.

 

 

 

Mars did actually support life, in its earliest stages though, they have brought back rocks with fossils of crustaceons in and there are clear signs of previous running water (valleys and erosion patterns only caused by water) also there are signs of two previous ice caps.

 

 

 

Anyway if there are any other life sources, why havent they "officially" visited us? And d'ya think they play runescape? :

[warri0r45]

The article says that Mars also fits the description for a hospitable planet, but obviously isn't. Given that the planet in question goes around a sun so much smaller than ours, I don't think it would be warm enough. But what do I know, it's not like I can just counter all of this news like that. Personally though, I'm doubting it's of any significance as cool as it'd be.

 

 

 

Mars did actually support life, in its earliest stages though, they have brought back rocks with fossils of crustaceons in and there are clear signs of previous running water (valleys and erosion patterns only caused by water) also there are signs of two previous ice caps.

 

 

 

Anyway if there are any other life sources, why havent they "officially" visited us? And d'ya think they play runescape? :

 

 

 

For real? I'd be interested to hear the source of that info because I'm seriously doubting it at the moment. I mean seriously, as in I think you pulled that from you-know-where...

 

 

 

But hey, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm willing to hear it.

[Korla]

Anyway if there are any other life sources, why havent they "officially" visited us? And d'ya think they play runescape? :

 

 

 

Think about it like this.

 

 

 

Finding a needle in a haystack the size of USA. The haystack has existed for a million years. You have existed for a millisecond and the needle disappears 1 second after starting to exist, at any time after the creation of the haystack.

 

 

 

Good luck finding it before it disappears.

 

 

 

Now, lets all go out and look for alien spaceships coming to visit us shall we?

[magekillr]

The article says that Mars also fits the description for a hospitable planet, but obviously isn't. Given that the planet in question goes around a sun so much smaller than ours, I don't think it would be warm enough. But what do I know, it's not like I can just counter all of this news like that. Personally though, I'm doubting it's of any significance as cool as it'd be.

 

 

 

Mars did actually support life, in its earliest stages though, they have brought back rocks with fossils of crustaceons in and there are clear signs of previous running water (valleys and erosion patterns only caused by water) also there are signs of two previous ice caps.

 

 

 

Anyway if there are any other life sources, why havent they "officially" visited us? And d'ya think they play runescape? :

 

 

 

no they havn't found fossils there...they said that's the best bet for finding life on mars. as of right now...it was NEVER habitable and NEVER supported life.

 

 

 

they found a meteorite that contained organic material, but don't know where it originated from...because it's well..on a meteorite.

 

you're referring to the 1996 find right?

[Captainkidd]

Theres a little problem...

 

 

 

Sciencist never saw the plant. They only saw a little black picture with a bunch of fuzzy lines. The so called picture they saw was when they sent a mircowave steam out into space that bounced off the star and came back. (Same way they find black holes, because black holes suck in everything. All types of engery and light....hense the black part in the name) Now they get pictures like that every day.

 

 

 

They found that the star had a sway in it, meaning theres atleast 1 or more plants going around it. Then Nasa puts it on the 'watched list' they watch the star using the mircowaves for 48 hours. IF they see a beam coming back less then the orginal then that means theres a plant there, they simply subtract the distance from the fist recording to the second to find how far (About) that plant is from its star. They find out how big the star is by looking at how big the beamins coming back are.

 

 

 

They found out that the star is smaller then ours and the plant is a little bit in trowds the star. With some cals they found out that the average temp would be 30-70 degrees F. Thats what sparked the media, the same about temps and size as out plant, so in theory it could have life or support life. We do not know if it dose have life on it.

 

 

 

Now its 120 Trillion light years away, now a light year is a distance. The distance is how far light can travel in 1 earth year. Now traveling at light speed it would take around 20.5 years to get there. But theres only one problem, the only thing that we have gotten to light speed was a partical being shot at a wall a few miles per hour shorter then lgith speed. Now with each partical you add the slower its max speed can go. Now at the end of a perioud theres like a few hundred million paricals meaning a spaceship can't reach light speed. because with each partical it slows its speed down.

 

 

 

So your probley wondering well how can we get there, theres about 3 possible answers to that, that kind of make sense. First is use a blackhole...now no one knows how they work but its still an option. Another is master nucluar fusion from Helium to Helium atoms to creat a blast that would push a space ship about 200 mph below light speed.

 

 

 

The last is a thoery enstin was working on when he died, he died before he could present it to the science world so no one really knew his thoughts on it other then what was in his speach and his work. The theory is, sense man only uses 20% of his brain. If he used 100% he would be pure thought and that is the only way to travel vast distances in space and time.

 

 

 

Now belive what you want, cause I doubt were going any where any time soon unless its mars.

[megakiller32]

out of curiosity, if it was possible to send people over there to live....

 

How much rocket fuel would it take?

 

and,

 

how many (earth) years would it take to get there?

[magekillr]

it's a wormhole...not a black hole

[Captainkidd]

out of curiosity, if it was possible to send people over there to live....

 

How much rocket fuel would it take?

 

and,

 

how many (earth) years would it take to get there?

If we could go the speed of light it would take around 20.5 years to get there. The fuel would be around 10 gallons (Now counting the fuel needed for take-off)

 

 

 

See in space of you jumb off the ship pushing with your legs you'd go in that direct at the speed you left the ship at FOR EVER unless you hit somthing. Same with a space ship, all they need is one burst of engery to get them at a high speed them they can turn the engines off and sail away for ever until they orbit the plant there suppose to.

[Captainkidd]

it's a wormhole...not a black hole

Theres no such thing as a wormhole...is a theory. The theory is that a wormhole lys in the middle of a blackhole. Depisoting everything the blackhole sucks in some where else. Now we know theres black holes out there as we x-rayed a bank spot in the univese and saw this big thing sucking stuff in, just theres no way to tell if theres a wormhole in it. The theory seems right because if there was nothing there then the black hole would suck in everything and compact into a a little ball thats denser then anything we know of...let me put it into somthing you might under stand, if there was nothing taking away the junk the blackhole sucked up then the WHOLE earth would be compated into a little 1x1 inch square...think about that the WHOLE earth in a little 1 by 1 inch square. So there must be somthing in the middle thats linked some where else depositing it at the other end of the universe, thus support that the univere is never ending.

[megakiller32]

out of curiosity, if it was possible to send people over there to live....

 

How much rocket fuel would it take?

 

and,

 

how many (earth) years would it take to get there?

If we could go the speed of light it would take around 20.5 years to get there. The fuel would be around 10 gallons (Now counting the fuel needed for take-off)

 

 

 

See in space of you jumb off the ship pushing with your legs you'd go in that direct at the speed you left the ship at FOR EVER unless you hit somthing. Same with a space ship, all they need is one burst of engery to get them at a high speed them they can turn the engines off and sail away for ever until they orbit the plant there suppose to.

 

 

 

ok, but at our own space-shuttles speeds, how long would it take? ('cause we can't go the speed of light :shock: (yet....))

[Captainkidd]

Like 200 years or so.

[theidiot11]

how many (earth) years would it take to get there?

 

 

 

Like 200 years or so.

 

 

 

Did you do the math? That calculation is WAY off. I added it up today. Going at the highest speed we have achieved so far on a space probe is ~150,000 MPH. Multiply that by 24 (hours in a single day.) That equals ~3,600,000 (3.6 Million) Miles in a single day. Multiply that by 365 (Days in one Earth year) ~1,314,000,000 (1.314 Billion) Miles. The Distance to this planet is ~120,000,000,000,000 (120 Trillion) Miles away. Divide that by 1.314 Billion. The answer is ~91,000 Earth Years.

 

 

 

Now lets do the same equation but this time with the speed of a space shuttle (17,000 MPH)

 

 

 

Thats 408,000 Miles in one day.

 

Thats 148,920,000 (1.4892 Million) miles in one Earth year.

 

That totals up to 805,801 Earth years to reach this planet in a space shuttle.

 

 

 

Still think we can reach this planet?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: I would also like to clarify a few things. People are continuing to say that this planet is 120 Trillion Light-Years away. THey are mistaking this for the number of miles it is away. The planet is 20.5 Light-Years from us.

 

 

 

Also to the people that say the cold temperatures at night would freeze everything to death, this planet is "tidally locked" with the star it revolves around. One side of the planet will ALWAYS face the star. Half of the planet will ALWAYS be day, the other half will ALWAYS be night.

[magekillr]

it's a wormhole...not a black hole

Theres no such thing as a wormhole...is a theory. The theory is that a wormhole lys in the middle of a blackhole. Depisoting everything the blackhole sucks in some where else. Now we know theres black holes out there as we x-rayed a bank spot in the univese and saw this big thing sucking stuff in, just theres no way to tell if theres a wormhole in it. The theory seems right because if there was nothing there then the black hole would suck in everything and compact into a a little ball thats denser then anything we know of...let me put it into somthing you might under stand, if there was nothing taking away the junk the blackhole sucked up then the WHOLE earth would be compated into a little 1x1 inch square...think about that the WHOLE earth in a little 1 by 1 inch square. So there must be somthing in the middle thats linked some where else depositing it at the other end of the universe, thus support that the univere is never ending.

 

 

 

i know they're theoretical...but i didn't know that the black hole itself is the thing that would allow the super speed travel...that's why i thought it was wormholes, as that's the theory behind traveling in the first place :-k

[Captainkidd]

Still think we can reach this planet?

 

Yes, sense we can reach about 1/10 of the speed of light.

 

The planet is 20.5 Light-Years from us.

 

You said it your self, its not 120 Trillion light-years away, its only 20.5.

 

 

 

Also to the people that say the cold temperatures at night would freeze everything to death, this planet is "tidally locked" with the star it revolves around. One side of the planet will ALWAYS face the star. Half of the planet will ALWAYS be day, the other half will ALWAYS be night.

Lol? How is that possible to know, THEY CANT SEE THE PLANT, they can't see anything at all its all in numbers. The device that recives the beam back gets all the dimentions of the bounch back then send them to NASA. Nasa can then plug them in to look at the genral shape. How could they possibly know the orbiting plant dosen't spin? Oh yes because they don't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i know they're theoretical...but i didn't know that the black hole itself is the thing that would allow the super speed travel...that's why i thought it was wormholes, as that's the theory behind traveling in the first place :-k

Only one is a theory, which is a worm hole. We know theres black holes out there, we've 'seen' them. (Not really seen just got a x-ray of it) A wormhole is a theory, but the theory is that a worm hole lyes in the middle of a blackhole. I never said the blackhole makes you travel I said the wormhole in it did. Also a worm hole dosen't make you travel super fast speeds (Atleast thats what the theory states) it warps space so that you can travel mass distances in a short amount of time....Heres a picture.

 

 

 

(E) = Earth

 

(S) = Some distant star

 

- = 10M Light-Years

 

<> = Worm Hole [Enter and exit]

 

\/ = Warped Space

 

* = New path

 

 

 

Alright lets start at earth and say the star is 100M year years away. Now let say we couldn't get to it. Lets also say we could use blackholes. Heres what it would look like.

 

 

 

[OrignalTrip]:

 

(E)----------(S)

 

 

 

[blackhole trip]:

 

(E)-<>-(S)

 

 

 

Now lets look whats in the blackhole, what it did. It tock the normal path and pushed it together so it makes a loop, now you only have to cross over the loop and your there.

 

 

 

<-->

 

| |

 

\/

[The Dark Lord]

When you think of wormholes, think of a tube.

 

 

 

You hold out the tube in a horizontal line... That is the original path that you take... Now grab both ends of the tube and touch them together.... That's a much shorter path.

 

 

 

That's kind of a good analogy. Not totally sure but with wormholes you can probably travel to a star that is 25 light-years away in 15-60 minutes rather than the 25 years traveling at the speed of light...Or the hundreds of thousands of years traveling at our current speeds in space.

[magekillr]

ahhh...i forgot i need to be specific here again :(...

 

 

 

yeah i know that a wormhole is basically like a "short cut"...

 

 

 

i didn't read your original post close enough i guess :-w

[scn64]

Still think we can reach this planet?

 

Yes, sense we can reach about 1/10 of the speed of light.

 

 

 

 

We can't get a ship to travel anywhere near 1/10 the speed of light, at least not yet.

[The Dark Lord]

I'm just curious... Why don't we send a radio message to the planet? It would take approximately 20.5 years and if any civilization exists... They might receive it and transmit something back. If not, then possibly the civilization isn't advanced enough to care about or doesn't exist at all.

 

 

 

I read that in Contact. lol

[highlanders]

For now, no one could just take off and visit that planet, but in the future maybe.

 

Just think back at how the world was 100 yrs ago, or even 10 yrs ago, technology is going fast.

 

We never know, it's plausible that in 1000 years such a trip would be possible, and even easy.

[The Dark Lord]

And who says the planet might be too warm for life? EVen if it's slightly warmer than our planet, it doesn't mean its inhabitants cannot withstand it. They could have a totally different molecular makeup... Remember silicon is another possible element for life, not just carbon.

 

 

 

But like I stated above, I believe it's more plausible for us now to just transmit radio waves to the planet with messages describing us and stuff and include primers on all known languages for the inhabitants (if they are advanced enough and even exist at all) to deceipher and then transmit back to us.

 

 

 

Not a totally bad idea, is it? Although it can get disrupted by objects that are obstacles... I think like a cloud of dust or whatever could slow it down or obstacles bouncing the radio waves off of it.

[Mercifull]

And who says the planet might be too warm for life? EVen if it's slightly warmer than our planet, it doesn't mean its inhabitants cannot withstand it.

Theres creatures on earth that exist deep in the ocean by the underwater volcano type things. I belive it was Sam Neil in Jurassic Park that said "Life finds a way" :D