Jagex - Too indecisive?

[Fairness]

Sorry if this belongs to another forum, I felt it should go here.

 

Alright, so here it is. Jagex are giving us updates, RSOF'ers rant. The members are given the granite maul, or whatever it was, the newbs who just lost their full steel to it whine, the weapon gets nerfed. Or, the same happens with the anchor. Except that this time some people rant about it being too weak, which results in Jagex buffing it a slight bit. Or, in Olaf's quest, in the agility course, some newbs with 20 agility whine about failing too much, as they should be able to do it (say they), so Jagex makes it easier again. JUST DO SOMETHING AND KEEP IT THAT WAY DAMMIT! People were just whining about the ditch - thankfully, it didn't get nerfed as the ranters tried too hard. But now the dark bow, the masses are crying for a nerf in such a hypocritic way. Come on, it's the best update for rangers lately, and now you want to ruin it in order to keep your addy junk? Did you even try the goddamn thing?

 

What say you, Tip.it community?

[mrmyk]

jaGeX can't predict how the community will react to everything can they?

 

It's like with economic theories, it may work on paper but it doesn't always work in reality.

 

 

 

jaGeX is good because they respond to the faults in the updates and change it to make the game better and fairer for us all.

[Fairness]

Well, in my opinion, those whiners are a smaller part of the member community than you'd think. It's a couple of people... the majority thought the anchor was fine, the dark bow is fine, the maul was fine... but a lot of people can't be a-ed to go to the forums or they just don't want to or stuff and so Jagex gives in to the deceptive minority. My 2 gold pieces.

[mrmyk]

Well, in my opinion, those whiners are a smaller part of the member community than you'd think. It's a couple of people... the majority thought the anchor was fine, the dark bow is fine, the maul was fine... but a lot of people can't be a-ed to go to the forums or they just don't want to or stuff and so Jagex gives in to the deceptive minority. My 2 gold pieces.

 

 

 

it's not really the community. jaGeX sometimes realises they have made mistakes in their updates after they have done it, such as when the whip was first realeased and it had some ownage spec (or so i hear, was quit at the time). jaGeX thought it was overpowered then changed it. That's what i mean and is basically...well it's not indecisive at all really.

[Soulthresher]

Alot of weapons shouldn't have been nerfed because some noob lost his rune to it. Jagex needs to stop listening to the pre-pubescent(sp?) kids who complain at anything and everything. Thank god they didn't nerf the Dark Bow yet. With all these new and good updates, RS is getting better until some little [cabbage] whines and gets his way.

[Alg]

at the time of this post, there were 596533 posts on compliments, and a massive 8372689 on rants. i'd say they're just a bit more vocal about it, and they get heard.

[Hi9im8Here7]

If Jagex would just get things right the first time this thread wouldn't be here.

[Soulthresher]

If Jagex would just get things right the first time this thread wouldn't be here.

 

 

 

They do most things right the first time but they listen to way to many immature little brats.

[Alg]

If Jagex would just get things right the first time this thread wouldn't be here.

 

 

 

They do most things right the first time but they listen to way to many immature little brats.

 

the attitude of 'getting it right the first time' is why this thread is here

[Primeaction]

When jagex makes an update and puts it in the game, they have to get some feedback so the people in the game will enjoy it more. The more satisfaction, the more money they make. If you dont like something, wouldnt you change it for a different thing or modify it? Thats how these updates work.

 

 

 

There is a saying, "The customer is always right." With runescape, yea the customers are always right.

[Toxicologist]

Contented people do not have anything to say, but ranters DO. That is why, despite the ranters being a very small minority, they seem have a lot of influence: because they are loud. People who do not have anything to complain about remain silent.

 

 

 

The reason why the Compliments board is so sparse is because, well it is simply pointless to make a thread to compliment JAGeX... I mean, the point? There is no argument, no come and go, it is simply a bunch of people agreeing with each other. Most contented people would not bother to do that... because if you remain contented (which is most of the time, even for the ranters), does that mean you go around posting how much you love JAGeX every day? So the number of threads on the Compliments to Rants board is irrelevant to the popularity of the game, although people with mediocre comprehension abilities may take it as such.

[Hi9im8Here7]

When jagex makes an update and puts it in the game, they have to get some feedback so the people in the game will enjoy it more. The more satisfaction, the more money they make. If you dont like something, wouldnt you change it for a different thing or modify it? Thats how these updates work.

 

 

 

There is a saying, "The customer is always right." With runescape, yea the customers are always right.

 

 

 

Very true, unfortunately Jagex almost never admits their mistakes, and when they do it's usually just to nerf some random quest or weapon. :?

 

 

 

Wanna know why there are so many more ranters than complimenters? That's why.

 

 

 

Well that and the fact that ppl would rather do something that has a point (if you rant about something you have an extremely slim chance that you're gonna be heard, right?).

[mrmyk]

When jagex makes an update and puts it in the game, they have to get some feedback so the people in the game will enjoy it more. The more satisfaction, the more money they make. If you dont like something, wouldnt you change it for a different thing or modify it? Thats how these updates work.

 

 

 

There is a saying, "The customer is always right." With runescape, yea the customers are always right.

 

 

 

Very true, unfortunately Jagex almost never admits their mistakes, and when they do it's usually just to nerf some random quest or weapon. :?

 

 

 

Wanna know why there are so many more ranters than complimenters? That's why.

 

 

 

Well that and the fact that ppl would rather do something that has a point (if you rant about something you have an extremely slim chance that you're gonna be heard, right?).

 

 

 

What primeaction said was true, and by the way..jAgeX does actually admit it makes mistakes when it does these big cleaning up updates. Also, have you ever read some of the rants jAgeX receives? I read one recently where a guy was ranting how he got scammed out of a mith square and was going to quit if he didn't get it back...

[GrimHams]

to be fair the maul wasn't fine, it was waaay too powerful, it would like auto kill people often. Jagex don't listen to people that much, rangers ranted for over 2 years till a worthwhile update came out. Jagex dont really listen to players apart from small things. They would only change something massive if loads of people quit.

[Fairness]

Well, about that ranger think, how come the customer is always right when to the massive (and kinda well-founded) arguments of rangers needing an update, Jagex responded with a snappy joke? That actually is decisiveness IMO, but this just doesn't compute. And the need for a ranger update at that time was bigger than keeping some more newbs from losing their junk armor by nerfing stuff.

[Hi9im8Here7]

When jagex makes an update and puts it in the game, they have to get some feedback so the people in the game will enjoy it more. The more satisfaction, the more money they make. If you dont like something, wouldnt you change it for a different thing or modify it? Thats how these updates work.

 

 

 

There is a saying, "The customer is always right." With runescape, yea the customers are always right.

 

 

 

Very true, unfortunately Jagex almost never admits their mistakes, and when they do it's usually just to nerf some random quest or weapon. :?

 

 

 

Wanna know why there are so many more ranters than complimenters? That's why.

 

 

 

Well that and the fact that ppl would rather do something that has a point (if you rant about something you have an extremely slim chance that you're gonna be heard, right?).

 

 

 

What primeaction said was true, and by the way..jAgeX does actually admit it makes mistakes when it does these big cleaning up updates. Also, have you ever read some of the rants jAgeX receives? I read one recently where a guy was ranting how he got scammed out of a mith square and was going to quit if he didn't get it back...

 

 

 

Of course I read the rants. I'm on that forum all the time. :P

 

 

 

There's plenty of legitimate rants that ask Jagex to think twice about their updates.

 

 

 

And yes they do get feedback, but alot of times they don't use it the way I think they should.

[Hi9im8Here7]

to be fair the maul wasn't fine, it was waaay too powerful, it would like auto kill people often. Jagex don't listen to people that much, rangers ranted for over 2 years till a worthwhile update came out. Jagex dont really listen to players apart from small things. They would only change something massive if loads of people quit.

 

 

 

Usually when they come out with something big they get so worked up into a frenzy about it they won't listen to anyone. :|

[Kilo]

jaGeX can't predict how the community will react to everything can they?

 

It's like with economic theories, it may work on paper but it doesn't always work in reality.

 

 

 

jaGeX is good because they respond to the faults in the updates and change it to make the game better and fairer for us all.

 

 

 

He's saying they changed them for the wrong reason, because lower levels cried. I agree with you, when a few threads pop up and gain massive support from lower level players Jagex feels the need to suppress the higher levels abilites and try to even everyone out, to a degree. Let the game play itself out first then if required corrections are needed make them.

[mrmyk]

jaGeX can't predict how the community will react to everything can they?

 

It's like with economic theories, it may work on paper but it doesn't always work in reality.

 

 

 

jaGeX is good because they respond to the faults in the updates and change it to make the game better and fairer for us all.

 

 

 

He's saying they changed them for the wrong reason, because lower levels cried. I agree with you, when a few threads pop up and gain massive support from lower level players Jagex feels the need to suppress the higher levels abilites and try to even everyone out, to a degree. Let the game play itself out first then if required corrections are needed make them.

 

 

 

Jagex however, has a goal to keep as many members as possible and as you know, there are many more medium-level players than high-level players so for them to keep the profits up it is best for them to put the wants of the higher leveled players after the medium-level players.

[malo2]

then there are people who cry about jagex not listening to them, then people cry about jagex listening too much....

 

 

 

lets just let them do their job?

[Vindetta]

then there are people who cry about jagex not listening to them, then people cry about jagex listening too much....

 

 

 

lets just let them do their job?

 

 

 

I agree, would you rather they stop making updates? Because if they did that then we wouldn't have to be worried about the next super over powerful weapon coming out would we. I mean come on, for the $5 you pay a month your demanding they make a perfect gaming world, one without death, without scammers and without problems? We are completely lucky they listen to our dumb demands, if a weapons to powerful then buy it, don't complain about it! Alot of noobs complain that the f2p doesn't get updates, they whine and whine... my only response is do you want them to completely close the game to free players?