Should all NPC's require a moderate slayer level? *Revised*

[Alg]

so you only get three minutes to a kill?

 

 

 

personally, i think adding a slayer level to certain monsters would work a lot better, mainly the powerful things everyone camps at in hopes of incredibly uncommon drops, or adding an area that would have a difficult level, quest, or stat requirement

[Dragonlordjl]

Oh, wow.. Sly Wizard actually made a valid, unbiased rant. I completely agree with this. Perhaps not all NPCs should have a ranged attack, but all dragons definitely should. It's pathetic and beyond irritating trying to get one of the limited blue dragon spawns against a noob who is ranging in green hides or casting air strike. And what's worse is that many autoers have taken to the Blue Dragons in taverly, and regardless of their combat level (they have to double click to attack) they WILL ALWAYS beat you to the dragon. For Pete's sake, give ALL dragons the breath weapon that Metal Dragons have. It would make them as feared as they were in RSC.

[I_Fly_High_G]

There should be a slayer or combat requirement.. Tbh, there are these low lvls who either try to hally or range a drag for a visage.. but by the time their arrows are shown on the ground, they're not even half way killing it..

[King_Peter18]

Still, your selfishness is loud and it sends out a terrible screeching sound. If you have a problem with people taking up space that they have every right to take, than go make a Runescape private server and screw around there.

 

 

 

What requirement is there to attack a monster? None. How did you earn the right to attack a monster, and low levels don't have that right?

[sieg678]

i see a slight problem with your 3rd option (the 3 min timer)

 

 

 

quests, some quest monsters can take...longer then expexted so what if you were fighting a quest monster and this timer poped up (now days quest monsters have a anti prayer thing so it is a little hard to kill them)

 

 

 

also what about jad? i think that it would take WAY more then 3 mins to kill jad

[123Yourgone]

Still, your selfishness is loud and it sends out a terrible screeching sound. If you have a problem with people taking up space that they have every right to take, than go make a Runescape private server and screw around there.

 

 

 

What requirement is there to attack a monster? None. How did you earn the right to attack a monster, and low levels don't have that right?

 

Becouse we dont take 15 minutes to kill it and leave people constantly switching servers.

 

Its like if you had only one gym in town with only one treadmill, and one guy is ALWAYS on that treadmill despite the fact that 10 other people are waiting.

 

I earned the right to kill the monster by training to a decent enough level to kill it without taking a month.

 

Your talking about our selfishness?...

 

We kill the dragon every 2-3 minutes and some one else gets a chance to take it..

 

The lvl 60 with wind blast kills it every NEVER and no one gets a chance to take the next spawn..

 

So whos selfish here?, if you spent more time training and less time trolling with your worthless selfish oppinions you wouldnt still be a noob.

[123Yourgone]

i see a slight problem with your 3rd option (the 3 min timer)

 

 

 

quests, some quest monsters can take...longer then expexted so what if you were fighting a quest monster and this timer poped up (now days quest monsters have a anti prayer thing so it is a little hard to kill them)

 

 

 

also what about jad? i think that it would take WAY more then 3 mins to kill jad

 

Its pretty obvious this wouldnt apply in multi zones, quests or minigames.

[King_Peter18]

Its like if you had only one gym in town with only one treadmill, and one guy is ALWAYS on that treadmill despite the fact that 10 other people are waiting.

 

 

 

That guy just has a courtesy problem. He still HAS the RIGHT to be on that treadmill.

 

 

 

I earned the right to kill the monster by training to a decent enough level to kill it without taking a month.

 

 

 

Never, have I seen anywhere on the Runescape site or anywhere, that says if you are a high level, you automatically have the right to be able to have the monsters out in an open area where anyone can access without doing a quest. Please, show me a legitimate site that says you have that right. Pretty please?

 

 

 

Your talking about our selfishness?...

 

We kill the dragon every 2-3 minutes and some one else gets a chance to take it..

 

The lvl 60 with wind blast kills it every NEVER and no one gets a chance to take the next spawn..

 

 

 

See above.

 

 

 

So whos selfish here?, if you spent more time training and less time trolling with your worthless selfish oppinions you wouldnt still be a noob.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hypocrite. I'm being selfish for saying that HIGH LEVELS SHOULDN'T HAVE A TOP ADVANTAGE OVER EVERYONE ELSE OUT IN AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY PREREQUISITES TO ACCESS? Thats pretty twisted stuff man.

[123Yourgone]

Its like if you had only one gym in town with only one treadmill, and one guy is ALWAYS on that treadmill despite the fact that 10 other people are waiting.

 

 

 

That guy just has a courtesy problem. He still HAS the RIGHT to be on that treadmill.

 

 

 

I earned the right to kill the monster by training to a decent enough level to kill it without taking a month.

 

 

 

Never, have I seen anywhere on the Runescape site or anywhere, that says if you are a high level, you automatically have the right to be able to have the monsters out in an open area where anyone can access without doing a quest. Please, show me a legitimate site that says you have that right. Pretty please?

 

 

 

Your talking about our selfishness?...

 

We kill the dragon every 2-3 minutes and some one else gets a chance to take it..

 

The lvl 60 with wind blast kills it every NEVER and no one gets a chance to take the next spawn..

 

 

 

See above.

 

 

 

So whos selfish here?, if you spent more time training and less time trolling with your worthless selfish oppinions you wouldnt still be a noob.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hypocrite. I'm being selfish for saying that HIGH LEVELS SHOULDN'T HAVE A TOP ADVANTAGE OVER EVERYONE ELSE OUT IN AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY PREREQUISITES TO ACCESS? Thats pretty twisted stuff man.

 

ITS COMMON [bleep]ING DECENCY MORON.

 

I have the right to go out and kill rcers, i have the right to kill npcs people are trying to thieve, i have the right to close doors people are trying to get through, i have the right to call every one i see a noob, i have the right to do a lot of things, does that mean i should go do them??

 

All of those things inconvenience another at little to no gain for myself, just like trying to kill black dragons with wind strike, if you cant comprehend this your too stupid to live.

[Dragonlordjl]

Yourgone has a point with that. Sure, there is nothing that prohibits closing doors that people are trying to get through or killing the npcs they are thieving, just like there is no law in real life that says you can't walk up to someone's table in a restaurant and spit in his or her drink. Does it mean you should do it? Absolutely not. Killing high leveled npcs is a form of passive aggression and is unfair to high levels. They raised their skills to the point where they can kill those npcs with ease, so they should not be prevented from doing so by someone who has no reason whatsoever for being there. Honestly, even if you have 100k wind strikes, it's a waste of time using them on dragons, as you will splash with about 90% of your casts. It's far better experience to train on something that is a far lower level, such as black knights, so you can't give me that "They are training their skills." bullcrap.

[Sly_Wizard]

Still, your selfishness is loud and it sends out a terrible screeching sound. If you have a problem with people taking up space that they have every right to take, than go make a Runescape private server and screw around there.

 

 

 

No offense to you, but you sound like one of those level 70's wh believes they have the right to attack what they want, when they want it. Well, newssflash to you buddy, it's not a right to be able to kill a high level NPC; It's a privilege. You want to go attack that big, bad 276? Then you should need some decent levels first. Simply because you paid to log onto a member server doesn't mean that you've been granted the right to kill whatever you want to.

 

 

 

Anyway, you still never answer my question; Find me one game which allows a low level to attack a monster significantly stronger than him/her for hours on end without the slightest risk.

 

 

 

What requirement is there to attack a monster? None. How did you earn the right to attack a monster, and low levels don't have that right?

 

 

 

Simple! I trained and they didn't. Cal that elitist if you want, but it's the bottom line.

[Dragonlordjl]

Actually, seeing as dragonhide is the best defense against magic, shouldn't Dragons be immune to spells? What, they aren't? They need to be. That would solve the problems with those stupid wind bolt mages. Oh, and also give them a ranged breath weapon, so that they can kill any ranger who decides he wants to use his maple shortbow to fight them.

[King_Peter18]

No offense to you, but you sound like one of those level 70's wh believes they have the right to attack what they want, when they want it. Well, newssflash to you buddy, it's not a right to be able to kill a high level NPC; It's a privilege. You want to go attack that big, bad 276? Then you should need some decent levels first. Simply because you paid to log onto a member server doesn't mean that you've been granted the right to kill whatever you want to.

 

 

 

Since when is it a privilege? No where have I seen, that if you train your combat skills, that monster is yours to own. One of those people who believes I have the right to attack whatever I want? Well woop dee doo. Everyone can attack whatever they want.

 

 

 

"Simply because you log onto a member server doesn't mean that you've been granted the right to kill whatever you want to."

 

 

 

They PAY to have access to everything that is member. Therefore they have the privilege to kill it.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, you still never answer my question; Find me one game which allows a low level to attack a monster significantly stronger than him/her for hours on end without the slightest risk.

 

 

 

There is none, because Runescape is a piece of sh^t game.

 

 

 

 

 

Simple! I trained and they didn't. Cal that elitist if you want, but it's the bottom line.

 

 

 

:XD: Even the noob using wind strike is training. Just because they don't want to train at PC doesn't mean they can't train on other monsters. Go kill the Dragons in the wilderness. Hell, go kill your Skeletal Wyverns for your Visage. There is your slayer level.

[King_Peter18]

Yourgone has a point with that. Sure, there is nothing that prohibits closing doors that people are trying to get through or killing the npcs they are thieving, just like there is no law in real life that says you can't walk up to someone's table in a restaurant and spit in his or her drink. Does it mean you should do it? Absolutely not.

 

 

 

Well some people do it. I'll use the term best used by Sly.

 

 

 

Its real life, get over it.

 

 

 

Killing high leveled npcs is a form of passive aggression and is unfair to high levels.

 

 

 

Everything now days is unfair to high levels.

 

 

 

They raised their skills to the point where they can kill those npcs with ease, so they should not be prevented from doing so by someone who has no reason whatsoever for being there.

 

 

 

They are there to have fun in a game they pay for. Since when is that not a reason?

 

 

 

Honestly, even if you have 100k wind strikes, it's a waste of time using them on dragons, as you will splash with about 90% of your casts. It's far better experience to train on something that is a far lower level, such as black knights, so you can't give me that "They are training their skills." bullcrap.

 

 

 

Maybe the all high and mighty high levels should spend a little bit of their game time helping those low levels train on monsters better suited to them. Or are we too superior for that?

[123Yourgone]

Yourgone has a point with that. Sure, there is nothing that prohibits closing doors that people are trying to get through or killing the npcs they are thieving, just like there is no law in real life that says you can't walk up to someone's table in a restaurant and spit in his or her drink. Does it mean you should do it? Absolutely not.

 

 

 

Well some people do it. I'll use the term best used by Sly.

 

 

 

Its real life, get over it.

 

 

 

Killing high leveled npcs is a form of passive aggression and is unfair to high levels.

 

 

 

Everything now days is unfair to high levels.

 

 

 

They raised their skills to the point where they can kill those npcs with ease, so they should not be prevented from doing so by someone who has no reason whatsoever for being there.

 

 

 

They are there to have fun in a game they pay for. Since when is that not a reason?

 

 

 

Honestly, even if you have 100k wind strikes, it's a waste of time using them on dragons, as you will splash with about 90% of your casts. It's far better experience to train on something that is a far lower level, such as black knights, so you can't give me that "They are training their skills." bullcrap.

 

 

 

Maybe the all high and mighty high levels should spend a little bit of their game time helping those low levels train on monsters better suited to them. Or are we too superior for that?

Your last name must be griffin.

 

Never before have a seen such a display of pure selfishness and ignorance, im not replying here anymore its like the special olympics.

[meb]

[hide]

Yourgone has a point with that. Sure, there is nothing that prohibits closing doors that people are trying to get through or killing the npcs they are thieving, just like there is no law in real life that says you can't walk up to someone's table in a restaurant and spit in his or her drink. Does it mean you should do it? Absolutely not.

 

 

 

Well some people do it. I'll use the term best used by Sly.

 

 

 

Its real life, get over it.

 

 

 

Killing high leveled npcs is a form of passive aggression and is unfair to high levels.

 

 

 

Everything now days is unfair to high levels.

 

 

 

They raised their skills to the point where they can kill those npcs with ease, so they should not be prevented from doing so by someone who has no reason whatsoever for being there.

 

 

 

They are there to have fun in a game they pay for. Since when is that not a reason?

 

 

 

Honestly, even if you have 100k wind strikes, it's a waste of time using them on dragons, as you will splash with about 90% of your casts. It's far better experience to train on something that is a far lower level, such as black knights, so you can't give me that "They are training their skills." bullcrap.

 

 

 

Maybe the all high and mighty high levels should spend a little bit of their game time helping those low levels train on monsters better suited to them. Or are we too superior for that?

[/hide]Your last name must be griffin.

 

Never before have a seen such a display of pure selfishness and ignorance, im not replying here anymore its like the special olympics.

 

 

 

Rofl :lol: .

 

 

 

Anyway, I don't think adding a slayer req helps against [developmentally delayed]s. Just switch worlds. Besides, ths visage craze will calm down and if you train slayer your chances of encountering people like that are a lot smaller.

[King_Peter18]

The Visage is the basis of this argument. What else is so rare that costs a lot that the Black Dragons drop? Uh..

 

 

 

Just the fact that they failed to say what drop is so important got me thinking.

 

 

 

123Yourgone.

 

 

 

Your insults make me feel much better about myself. :D Thank you for showing your high level arrogance. :mrgreen: If you were ranting about lower levels accessing an area that has a quest requirement to access, then I would be in full support. But, this area doesn't. So naturally, high levels don't have anymore right to be there than anyone else.

[Dragonlordjl]

Lower levels shouldn't be killing high leveled NPCS, especially not with the weakest magic spell possible. I still think they need to make all dragons immune to magic and give them a breath weapon.

[King_Peter18]

I'm not against making monsters harder. Just alienating lower levels from even attempting, I am against.

[123Yourgone]

I'm not against making monsters harder. Just alienating lower levels from even attempting, I am against.

 

They can attempt it, and if they kill it in less then 3 minutes they suceed.

[Madmax410]

Hmm...

 

 

 

The ranged/ mage idea isnt really good. It would make ranging much harder to lvl up.

 

 

 

The slayer lvl would be good on dragons, tzharr, and other high lvled monsters, but not ALL monsters. Also, it shouldnt be TOO high. Like, no higher than 50 slayer. It would also get rid of the hundreds of green dragon autoers these days.

 

 

 

That 3 minute limit is a great idea. It would definetly help stop the jerks that hog up a monster never killing it. However, they shouldnt put that on low lvled monsters. That would ruin "splash" training.

 

Lower levels shouldn't be killing high leveled NPCS, especially not with the weakest magic spell possible. I still think they need to make all dragons immune to magic and give them a breath weapon.

 

and why exactly is that? I think if they can do it, let them try. However, if they try and its impossible for them to do it, dont let them.

[Alg]

if the visage is what caused it, why not just slap a quest requirement on that?

 

or for the dragons of all kinds, ex: dragon slayer for greens, possibly legends for reds and blacks, heroes for blue?

[Soulsniper64]

What would stop the player from ranging/maging/hallying the monster they have for a slayer task?

 

 

 

And I agree with your edit, a 3 minute time limit would help alot.

[jondea0]

this is only a problem because RS monsters are really dumb, because you cant do this on wow and guild wars and other RPGs. but also this problem of rangers and mages losing their power because of no safespots is a problem. this is solved on other games by providing pets for rangers (to take hits) and also cheap binding spells

 

 

 

just my two cents