Deathman95 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I personally don't believe that Jagex is doing anything to try and stop the autoers. Thinking back to when i started there were very few autoers, now i see hundreds just fishing... and the number grows. In reality, if Jagex does care, they are doing an extremely sucky job at banning. Some ask: What is so hard for jagex to have a 40 player mods in each world that can ban? All they have to do is go to the magic trees or shark fishing spots every once in a while and ban or freeze a few accounts. This question brings up the age old question, is it better to ban the 10 people and one be innocent or let all go so the innocent one isn't unjustly punished? The fact is that there are people out there that enjoy just skilling. But back to my point, Jagex doesn't care... me and a few friends did some calculations and at BARE MINIMUM Jagex is getting $142,000 a month from these autoers. and could be getting as much as $305,600 from them. Thats a huge pay check each month from just the auto community, a huge paycheck that Jagex doesn't want to see go. Autoers are also the only income that doesn't complain when updates come out... infact autoers, in Jagex's eyes, are probably the best subscribers they have. And you can argue that Jagex does care but i ask you this: Why haven't they done anything? Why hasn't something like the RS "Police" idea stated above come into play? Why haven't they started switching up the process in which you go through the tutorial so its random each time? The answer is simple, they don't care too. For 2 and 1/2 years I've heard that the next big "ban" is coming :^o , but the autoers just get worse... good job Jagex, =D> If you wish to contradict me I only request that you do so logically, I have flamers :D >>Matt<< Note, the numbers above are approximations, me and friends are working to get a greater estimation on macro-user numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triforceelf Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 You know what? I have a confession to make. As annoying (and really ineffectual) as the random events are, I really missed them in other MMO's. They do a really good job of breaking up the monotony, even if it is just the stupid useless sandwich lady, it lets you take a short break from whatever and just have some fun. Some are cool (like the pinball one) some are stupid (SANDWICH LADY!) and some are... Interesting. Like evil bob. That is a wierd event. Seriously, what was JagEx doing at that time? You know what? I dont wanna know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmyk Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 You know what? I have a confession to make. As annoying (and really ineffectual) as the random events are, I really missed them in other MMO's. They do a really good job of breaking up the monotony, even if it is just the stupid useless sandwich lady, it lets you take a short break from whatever and just have some fun. Some are cool (like the pinball one) some are stupid (SANDWICH LADY!) and some are... Interesting. Like evil bob. That is a wierd event. Seriously, what was JagEx doing at that time? You know what? I dont wanna know. Although I haven't played any more MMORPG's apart from RS, I know what you mean. Random events may be annoying sometimes but really they are quite fun (even the wierd ones like evil bob as you say). OT: The evil bob random was thought up at the JaGex Christmas party after a few bottles of the bubbly had been opened ;). Proud Retired Council of The GladiatiorzClick here for our website - 110+ F2P Combat Requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ALL randoms are useless. The autoers got cute little scripts included in their botting scripts to face every single random event that comes their way. If you see a botter that is unable to complete or get away from a random event, it's because the person who owns the botter is an amateur. When new randoms are created, new scripts to face those new randoms are created. In the current state of affrairs, there's not much we can do to stop botters. Jagex stubbornly insists on keeping Runescape browser-based, because it attracts new members. Jagex doesn't care if their players are annoyed by randoms, hah, why care, they are making tons of money. Runescape should be downloadable, with a security program included it in, period. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmyk Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ALL randoms are useless. The autoers got cute little scripts included in their botting scripts to face every single random event that comes their way. If you see a botter that is unable to complete or get away from a random event, it's because the person who owns the botter is an amateur. When new randoms are created, new scripts to face those new randoms are created. In the current state of affrairs, there's not much we can do to stop botters. Jagex stubbornly insists on keeping Runescape browser-based, because it attracts new members. Jagex doesn't care if their players are annoyed by randoms, hah, why care, they are making tons of money. Runescape should be downloadable, with a security program included it in, period. If it is downloadable someone would crack the program sooner or later and how would it get updated? It just wouldn't really work. Randoms are not useless, they are there to keep players other than macroers busy too, they don't want people to AFK do they? They also provide you with some nifty clothes to wear :) Proud Retired Council of The GladiatiorzClick here for our website - 110+ F2P Combat Requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 ALL randoms are useless. The autoers got cute little scripts included in their botting scripts to face every single random event that comes their way. If you see a botter that is unable to complete or get away from a random event, it's because the person who owns the botter is an amateur. When new randoms are created, new scripts to face those new randoms are created. In the current state of affrairs, there's not much we can do to stop botters. Jagex stubbornly insists on keeping Runescape browser-based, because it attracts new members. Jagex doesn't care if their players are annoyed by randoms, hah, why care, they are making tons of money. Runescape should be downloadable, with a security program included it in, period. If it is downloadable someone would crack the program sooner or later and how would it get updated? It just wouldn't really work. Randoms are not useless, they are there to keep players other than macroers busy too, they don't want people to AFK do they? They also provide you with some nifty clothes to wear :) Snap out of the "all or nothing" mentality. Just look at the other mmorpgs, there is botting in each and every one of them, just A LOT less thanks to those integrated security programs. Jagex stays browser based and keep using their prehistoric anti-botting methods for economic reasons, it's obvious, what are you, their little brainwashed laquet? 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_trollz_u Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 One time I got backon runescape just to hunt autoers. I lured a highwayman into the rune shop at port sarim to kill the auto buyers. But when the highway man attacked the auto, the auto started WIND STRIKING IT AND KILLING IT. WTF!!!!!! Autoers have become extremely powerfull and the only solution is to ban them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 One time I got backon runescape just to hunt autoers. I lured a highwayman into the rune shop at port sarim to kill the auto buyers. But when the highway man attacked the auto, the auto started WIND STRIKING IT AND KILLING IT. WTF!!!!!! Autoers have become extremely powerfull and the only solution is to ban them. Lol, that is just yummy! 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triforceelf Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 In the current state of affrairs, there's not much we can do to stop botters. Jagex stubbornly insists on keeping Runescape browser-based, because it attracts new members. Jagex doesn't care if their players are annoyed by randoms, hah, why care, they are making tons of money. Runescape should be downloadable, with a security program included it in, period.\ Whats wrong with browser based? It means I can play RS any time any where, and it uses up so little power I can use it on my laptop with no worries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathman95 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Maybe "agressive" guards or highway men should be placed near all the magic trees and other points of intrest that macros seem drawn to. Atleast it'd keep them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbk_hossack Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 oi agree whats the point of theses events anyway? 38% of Tip.Iters put stupid made up statistics in their sigs. If you are one of the 62% that don't, put this in your sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathman95 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 oi agree whats the point of theses events anyway? They are an attempt to stop macroing but only really keep out those who use an auto clickers or color clickers. Its a poor excuse for trying to stop RS's biggest problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumpta Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I don't mind randoms in general. I do mind being at iron dragons and having the scarce places in my inventory packed with grey boxes from the MOM. In the twenty minutes it takes to get them to non-agressive, you can pack up quite a bunch of those, I have noticed. I do mind getting teleported to a frog kingdom because the frog prince is too impatient to wait until I have ranged the dragon. I don't like losing expensive bolts because I have to identify a twin sister. NO MORE RANDOMS DURING COMBAT, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winner8212 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Sad to say, we're more or less losing the battle against autoers IMO. Spinning 7k flax at lumb castle, I see lots and lots and lots of autoers per hr, and these autoers know how to COMPELTE NILES/MILES/GILES random, how to COMPLETE FROG RANDOM, and even how to DRINK AN ANTIPPOT WHEN THEY GET POISONED BY STRANGE PLANT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triforceelf Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Makeing a sophisticated macro takes some programming skills, but it isn't that hard when the code is so easy to find. Since RS is java based you can easily find out what the object values are to do all kinds of different things and complete the macroes fairly quickly. However, macroes are far worse in World of Warcraft where you can find people killing things then healing themselves when they get low. Its not as bad on PVP servers where a member of the opposing faction can just mow you down no problemo, but on PVE servers its horrible. Lesson: every mmo has its share of people who let a computer do the work for them. While we should do all we can to stop them, we cant do everything and they will always exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathman95 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Robots... they're taking over the world... lolz No really, all they need to do is slow the creation down, once you've dammed off the flow, then you can focus on the pond... or in this case the freakin ocean (its a metaphor for all you who are sitting there confused) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 They actually prevent AFKing too so it's a double whammy. But if your paying attention they are no problem to you if your not then i guess your outa luck :) Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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