some kids... learn from online ga- what?????????? :shock: do you really think that??? what made you think that!??? -sidenote: seen any r rated movies recently?- i think that i learned most from society about how to act and how to greet people etc. i didn't need any games for that. :-s seriously what made you think that??? i don't get it :? ... society is probbably the best teacher of all things. well get past all the rapists murderers and the perverts in the world and you'll get all the ummm... never mind. you CAN learn about how to be polite within a crowded room and how to tell some one off without cursing at them and not making yourself look like a led zeppelin fan in a Marylin mansion concert. (:XD:) so as you stated yourself you have played mature rated games that require you to be at least 17 years old and you're picking on kids of a younger generation playing a 13+ game. lemme make a comparison.

 

 

 

which is worse? 8 year old seeing a pg-13 movie or a 12 year old seeing an r rated movie.

 

 

 

do pg-13 movies look really all that violent? so they throw around the h e double hockeysticks word( :ohnoes: ) a few times. and maybe they use a GUN and maybe they kiss at the end (ewwwwwwwwwwww) come on we can be a little more mature when we see these movies right? even an 8 year old knows how to no make him/herself look like an [wagon] in a crowded place.

 

 

 

now do r rated movies look all that violent? so the terminator threw a urinal over the robots head. what does that mean? so the man and the woman aren't wearing a whole lot of clothes and are rubbing up each other a lot. does that mean that it's inappropriate? yeeeeeeeeeep.

 

 

 

see it's not like runescape is showing some guy take another guys leg off and starts whacking people in the wilderness and people are just too afraid to fight against a rampaging lunatic with a blood gushing leg and a confused lad that now needs a surgeon. there are plenty of things out there that are worse than an evil chicken saying BWUUUUUUCK RUN AWAY FROM ME YANXRUL BWUCK BWUCK BWUCK BWUUUUUUUUCK.

 

 

 

point proven O:)

 

 

 

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You want know why the ESRB exists. Its because parents and the insane Christians complained a lot about games having violence (DOOM and Mortal Combat). Now that there is a ratings board, parents don't care cause they think the little letters on the box will stop them from playing.

 

Please video games aren't violent and do not cause violence. I played Mario when i was 4 and never once tried jumping on boxes to find hidden coins.

 

 

 

On topic: It's all the parents fault in short, people think its a kids game when it says for 13+ on the site. But there are grandparents that play Runescape, and I'm tired of being called noob by those little "illegitimate children" because I buy laws for 400 each or sell raw lobs and don't cook them.

 

 

 

P.S. Insane Christian does not refer to the entire faith, just those idiots who claim violent games,among other things :-w , are a crime against god.

some one saw icons on g4tv or was just around when it happened =P. these are also the people that say that [garden tool]-[garden tool]-[garden tool] is too offensive towards woman so they change it to ha-ha-ha and they also think that Santa shouldn't be fat because it conveys that if your fat your jolly. in my unprofessional opinion of being a Christian that thinks that religion is a waste but still celebrates Christmas and easter every year i think that Christians control the government and when something is wrong CALL THE FEDERATION WE HAVE A MISFIRE. these are the same people who want to take "god" out of the pledge of aligiance :evil: :x [/hide]

You want know why the ESRB exists. Its because parents and the insane Christians complained a lot about games having violence (DOOM and Mortal Combat). Now that there is a ratings board, parents don't care cause they think the little letters on the box will stop them from playing.

 

Please video games aren't violent and do not cause violence. I played Mario when i was 4 and never once tried jumping on boxes to find hidden coins.

 

 

 

On topic: It's all the parents fault in short, people think its a kids game when it says for 13+ on the site. But there are grandparents that play Runescape, and I'm tired of being called noob by those little "illegitimate children" because I buy laws for 400 each or sell raw lobs and don't cook them.

 

 

 

P.S. Insane Christian does not refer to the entire faith, just those idiots who claim violent games,among other things :-w , are a crime against god.

some one saw icons on g4tv or was just around when it happened =P. these are also the people that say that [garden tool]-[garden tool]-[garden tool] is too offensive towards woman so they change it to ha-ha-ha and they also think that Santa shouldn't be fat because it conveys that if your fat your jolly. in my unprofessional opinion of being a Christian that thinks that religion is a waste but still celebrates Christmas and easter every year i think that Christians control the government and when something is wrong CALL THE FEDERATION WE HAVE A MISFIRE. these are the same people who want to take "god" out of the pledge of aligiance :evil: :x

 

 

 

From: Billy Madison-edited for you.

 

"yanksrule, what you've wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point during your rambling, incoherent post were you close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dummer for having read it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul."

 

 

 

If you were trying to imply i am an atheist who tried to take under god out of the pledge, then you better not reply or you shall have accepted my challenge to a flame war.

From: Billy Madison-edited for you.

 

"yanksrule, what you've wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point during your rambling, incoherent post were you close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dummer for having read it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul."

 

 

 

If you were trying to imply i am an atheist who tried to take under god out of the pledge, then you better not reply or you shall have accepted my challenge to a flame war.

:XD:

 

 

 

i wasn't trying to imply you were atheist or any other type of belief. i was simply stating my opinion based on seeing insane Christians. the first sentence was geard towards you.. otherwise the rest of the paragraph was not. sorry for any miscommunication. :lol:

Yanksrule, ^ that may be true, but ever since playing wolfenstein,whenever I see a world war 2 movie I start thinking (look out for the zombies!). And ever since using microsoft word, whenever I do a writing assignment I think to "copy and paste" ._. .

I probably think that most 8 year olds wouldn't even understand the point of runescape.

 

 

 

Some family friends came to visit us at my house and their son (who is 9) was in near tears begging me to help him off this "level" in runescape (alkarid). I had to shut down the pc to stop him from attempting to get back on runescape.

 

 

 

Even with most of the runescapers being mature and 13+ by that fact their still is a great margin of them being snobby 8 year olds who should be outside, playing football, riding bikes. Ofcourse I'm going back to when I was 8 years old and we didn't have a computer, nor that runescape had been created.

I probably think that most 8 year olds wouldn't even understand the point of runescape.

 

 

 

Some family friends came to visit us at my house and their son (who is 9) was in near tears begging me to help him off this "level" in runescape (alkarid). I had to shut down the pc to stop him from attempting to get back on runescape.

 

 

 

Even with most of the runescapers being mature and 13+ by that fact their still is a great margin of them being snobby 8 year olds who should be outside, playing football, riding bikes. Ofcourse I'm going back to when I was 8 years old and we didn't have a computer, nor that runescape had been created.

 

Yes, but it depends on their minds. If they're intelligent, they understand a bit. If they're not, they wouldn't even know it's a game.

 

 

 

That's a problem. They're too young and think that they "must" do it, no matter what, so they beg. Beg to people to do it for them, beg for items, beg for money and whatever. I think you shouldn't need to be 13+ to play, just know about the world. Which hardly anyone does on the game.

miniclip

 

 

 

 

 

that is all

people need to learn about the game BEFORE they make their account. i was once on F2P and a lvl 5 saw my armor and said "nice CW" (what i was wearing at the time). know what i did? i gave him a rune med, a black med, and an addy longsword (not much but to a lvl 5 pretty good).

 

i then thanked him for actually learning about the game before he started playing. i tested to say if he was just somebodys second account and i called him a "noob". He told me he didnt like that word and it sounded unintelligible. hey mr. lvl 5, you like money right? well, here you go.

 

 

 

Moral of the story? Read about the DAMN game before playing it. It makes RS better for everybody.

You want know why the ESRB exists. Its because parents and the insane Christians complained a lot about games having violence (DOOM and Mortal Combat). Now that there is a ratings board, parents don't care cause they think the little letters on the box will stop them from playing.

 

Please video games aren't violent and do not cause violence. I played Mario when i was 4 and never once tried jumping on boxes to find hidden coins.

 

 

 

On topic: It's all the parents fault in short, people think its a kids game when it says for 13+ on the site. But there are grandparents that play Runescape, and I'm tired of being called noob by those little "illegitimate children" because I buy laws for 400 each or sell raw lobs and don't cook them.

 

 

 

P.S. Insane Christian does not refer to the entire faith, just those idiots who claim violent games,among other things :-w , are a crime against god.

 

It was mostly because of Mortal Kombat's fatalities that pulled the attention. As it kept getting worse and worse at the time (Doom, MK, whatever), it was decided to make a game rater company that indicates the best age for playing. Thus, in 1994, the ESRB was born.

 

(Lol, I also played Mario when I was four, and I used LEGO to imitate things (built Mario and castles with LEGO bricks) from the game. As I didn't know English, I made them say gibberish to each other :XD: )

 

 

 

It can be the parents' or the child's fault. The parent could have let their child play, but the child could also be playing without their permission. It can be quite common, these.

 

 

 

miniclip

 

 

 

 

 

that is all

 

You resumed a large part in four words, thank you. However, I can't truly criticize Miniclip as I found RS through it (actually my cousin (a lvl60+ that I think that has been hacked) was telling me about it, and either way he'd probably introduce me to the game), and I was nine years old at the time. I couldn't play due to the game not working (Java), so I didn't. About an year later, I tried again and succeeded in playing (I shall never forget thee, old Tewzovincent). I played for about an year, got scammed (armor trimming...) and then played a bit more and quit. About an year and a half ago, I wanted to play again. Tewzovincent wasn't working, so I guessed he was deleted or hacked (which I want to know how), so I made a new account (Prince Tewzo). And since then, I play regularly. I worked my best all this time to not be immature as most of people under 13. I hardly spoke at these times, so I never got reported, criticized as a "child" and whatever but I never got any friends. I only have my cousin's accounts and my brother on my friends list. Quite frankly, I don't care about it, as I don't feel like having new friends. Errr, wrote too much and got off topic, I'm sorry.

I absolutely despise the filter, does Jagex really think that teenagers don't swear. Plus, some of the words they block aren't swearwords such as: damnation, [wagon] etc.

I absolutely despise the filter, does Jagex really think that teenagers don't swear. Plus, some of the words they block aren't swearwords such as: damnation, [wagon] etc.

 

[wagon] isn't a swear word :XD: ? Get your facts straight.

I absolutely despise the filter, does Jagex really think that teenagers don't swear. Plus, some of the words they block aren't swearwords such as: damnation, [wagon] etc.

 

[wagon] isn't a swear word :XD: ? Get your facts straight.

 

 

 

[wagon] is NOT a swear word =; . if you think it is then you think the bible swears. fathers (aka priests) never swear. if you want to get into it the word is jack [wagon]. so it isn't a swear word. [wagon] is debatabley not a swear word. on television they do not block that word when it is said no matter what station you're on. they WILL block it when you add a hole next to the word because then it is a derogatory word. also-- why do you think tip it doesn't block it?

[wagon] is NOT a swear word =; . if you think it is then you think the bible swears. fathers (aka priests) never swear. if you want to get into it the word is jack [wagon]. so it isn't a swear word. [wagon] is debatabley not a swear word. on television they do not block that word when it is said no matter what station you're on. they WILL block it when you add a hole next to the word because then it is a derogatory word. also-- why do you think tip it doesn't block it?

 

Linguistically speaking anything can be a swear word in the correct contexts.

 

 

 

I may be outdated on this one, but isn't there an Examine note in one of the member's worlds that read something along the lines of "kicking H.A.M. [wagon]" ?

I absolutely despise the filter, does Jagex really think that teenagers don't swear. Plus, some of the words they block aren't swearwords such as: damnation, [wagon] etc.

 

[wagon] isn't a swear word :XD: ? Get your facts straight.

 

 

 

[wagon] is NOT a swear word =; . if you think it is then you think the bible swears. fathers (aka priests) never swear. if you want to get into it the word is jack [wagon]. so it isn't a swear word. [wagon] is debatabley not a swear word. on television they do not block that word when it is said no matter what station you're on. they WILL block it when you add a hole next to the word because then it is a derogatory word. also-- why do you think tip it doesn't block it?

 

Well, tip it doesn't block bastard either and it's clearly a derogatory word. They don't block a more vulgar word for "prostitute" on TV. People call each other "[wagon]". Why? Because it signifies whoever you call that is a posterior. So, apparently, priests swear?

 

 

You're right, I think.

i'm going to end this now: it doesn't matter.

 

 

 

you were right i was wrong.... i forfeit

 

 

 

*i dont care i lost don't care lah lah lah lahhh tierd of getting e-mails saying i got a new reply from this thread about swearing!!!!!!*

I am 50/50 on this. It all depends on their IQ really. I admit, I am 1 year underaged for this game. It really does not bother me at all. I have a friend that played RuneScape when he was in the second grade! He is a staight A student who NEVER curses. I see the immaturity of the community, but I cannot agree that they are all 13-. It all depends on their IQ. Instread of a 13 year age restriction, Jagex should make a quiz to tell if your IQ is higher than 50 :anxious: \ :XD:

 

 

 

:lol: half the players would get banned if that were the case.

 

Only half?

Ya, more like %80 of the population if we rated it by how they acted...scammers,bots, beggars...man there'd be barely any players left!._. tell me if I may be exagerating

 

 

 

Hi Death Hippy,

 

 

 

I'm sure you have absolute faith in your own views on this. I know attempting to convince you otherwise would not be point of my posting here, so I'm simply posting my views and understanding of the rules governing the way we can interact with other players.

 

 

 

Maybe reading Mark Twain's oft misattributed quote to Benjamin Disraeli may be useful when you wish to consider using statistics in any arguments in future.

 

 

 

 

Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

 

Quote from Wikiquote - Mark Twain - Misattributed

 

 

 

Put simply: statistics used outside of research reports, and supported by all the mechanisms that accompany academic aspects of it, are probably the most notoriously unreliable way to reinforce discussions which are based on promoting opinions.

 

 

 

While you are entitled to your opinion, I'd caution anyone against using such figures unless they're sourced. You could use the Polls conducted by Tip.It for example, or the polls on the RuneScape site itself. Even then act of bringing figures from a poll, that wasn't conducted directly to support argument, is always perilous. As far as I'm aware though, there's no poll regarding excluding other players from the game, or about removing the censor from the game. Additionaly Jagex states "We can never please everybody and believe it or not most players are actually in favour of there being a censor" on this thread: RuneScape Forums > Rants > Rants About The Censor.

 

 

 

In the end though, I would simply state my own view and argue with others based on the points made within any thread, then attempt to conjure statistics.

 

 

 

The fact that other player's real life attributes differ from our own, would necessarily be based purely on our assumptions about their background, their likes and dislikes. So I'm doubtful anyone create such reliable research of this kind, since it'd require the kind personal information which would be against Rule 13 - Personal Details to obtain in the first place.

 

 

 

I am always highly sceptical for that reason of any supposed arguments for further acting against or actively excluding other other players from the game, based on what is purely assumptions about the ages of other people, which is actually more an argument about the maturity, or lack thereof of other players.

 

 

 

Maturity being more about a player's ability to comprehend their virtual environment which includes:

 

* the rules concerning their behaviour towards other people,

 

* the features controlling interaction in it,

 

* and how a player's own actions may have repercussions in game that does involve playing online with other real people.

 

 

 

And even if players could construct such arguments, Jagex doesn't collect age data for players under 13, since to create an account a player must:

 

 

 

1) Be over 13

 

2) If they're under 18 but over 13 they must have obtained their parents permission, i.e. directly asked their parents, if they can create an account.

 

 

 

Jagex says it retains the right to terminate an account if false information supplied, but in effect they're likely only to terminate an account if a parent says they either did not give that permission to a player between the ages of 13 and 18, or else they are withdrawing that permission.

 

 

 

In addition for any player under 13 who creates a new account Jagex will delete that account:

If we are notified by a parent that their preteen has lied about their age when registering on our site, we will Terminate the account provided we have confirmation which satisfies us that the reporting person is indeed the parent.

From Jagex Terms+Conditions

 

 

 

That's because unless you confirm you are the parent of another player Jagex will not discuss another player's account with you, even if you report them for breaking a rule. And if you can't confirm your the parent or responsible guardian for that player, Jagex would likely be highly suspicious why you're asking for another player's account to be terminated.

 

 

 

As the only rule in game that matters with regards to other players real life attributes, is that none of us should not be asking or attempting to obtain information that would be required to confirm another's real attributes or identity, Rule 13 - Personal Details, so it's actually impossible to go about in-game verifying such personal data.

 

 

 

In other words what players say about themselves or their age, is not only unverifiable, as I said above there's no way to know what another says online is true (unless you're literally in the same room with a person and see them type it but then you can simply ask them in person anyway). Regardless, attempting to verify other players details by seeking things like their birth-date(including year), schools are they attending or have attended in the past or other personal background (all of which could easily misused locate that player or attempt to steal their account) would very likely get those attempting to do that to other players into trouble.

 

 

 

So these arguments about further excluding players based on our perceptions about their age don't seem useful to me, since none of it can make claims to be be based on reliable research of the player base. It's all anecdotal, meaning: it's purely based on our opinion and our individual experiences in the game.

 

 

 

And what confuses me most with continued ranting about the ages of other players is that the core issue; a perceived 'lack maturity' in the game-play of other players; is directly an issue with other players ignoring the rules and not showing mutual respect for other players.

 

 

 

Surely rather than attempting to exclude others based on their real life attributes, we could take a more constructive approach, and remind others about fair game-play, and treating others with the respect we ourselves would wish to be treated.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Fey.

^ pure genius right there...you should put that in a post O_O. That's college grade level stuff right there :shock:

Personally i don't think age is a factor in gaming. Its more or less maturity. Most kids by age twelve, in my opinion, should have the maturity to see a R-rated film or play an M-rated game. Don't get me wrong, age is a factor, but it only became a big one when parents started being over protective. For example, most male children in the community i was raised, hunted using high power riffles at age 12, fired a gun at age 8, and saw a dear get gutted by age 6. They were mature enough to kill animals but not mature enough to play Halo, something ain't right there.

 

 

 

now i'm not being a nazi about this. i don't go out of my way to report every little infraction within the game, but i probably would've reported this one. this is being out of line with the kid. you are just harassing them into logging off after the player asked you to stop and gave you a good reason. this is what i mean about being MATURE and that this isn't your game and your turf.

 

 

 

Let us not bring Nazis into this, lest we invoke the wrath of Godwin's Law..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I know, mario rocks.And how does this affect me personally?When people tell me not to say bad words.And when I have to hear about people getting hacked...when I'm pretty dam sure was from when they tried to go to a hacking site.How do I tell 8year olds from 13 year olds?They tell me their age when I ask after hearing "don't swear my mom said I can't play if people swear!".After that I constantly swear till he logs out.

 

 

 

Congratulations, you have just proven you're just as bad as they are. :roll: I equivalent this to how a five year old sticks his tongue out after another five year old has done the same.

 

 

 

listen ok i agree with death hippy even though im under the age requierment i am more mature then these 8 year olds playing on "family accounts" that cuss swear and call my an 8 year old because my grammer on runescape is not correct as i try to make things shorter by not using plurles or correct spelling... i would say that these "8 years" are fairly weak minded people that are not ready to play RPG's of this caliber because they are to imature. Just to tell you i am not using a dictionary to use these words but i am using them to make myself look a little smarter than the next person who reads this post. just one last thing: I think that we are all a little imature in this game that gives us a life until we end up in lumbrige/cammalot/fallador(w/e our respond point is) we need to focus on what keeps us entertained weather it is reporting bots, flaming people for no reason, helping people, making freinds, doing quests, ect.

 

 

 

You can't even type properly on this forum, and you expect me to take you seriously!? Puh-lease! Put your dictionary back were it belongs and USE PROPER GRAMMAR! Then, I will think you are as intelligent as you claim to be. Making yourself look smart doesn't help anything thank you...

 

 

 

You think senseless flaming of people is right? Good, because if you are going to flame for bad grammar, please spell your argument right.case you didn't quite get the message, I like flaming people for improper grammar. Thus, I should be able to act on this whim whenever I please, according to your logic. :roll:

 

 

 

All my spelling is 99.9% correct, thank you very much. :roll:

 

 

 

EDIT: I see I missed the 'n' key in the word, in. Like I said, my spelling is 99.9% correct, unlike yours.

 

 

 

 

 

I am not a hypocrite... -.- btw I was being completely honest

Personally i don't think age is a factor in gaming. Its more or less maturity. Most kids by age twelve, in my opinion, should have the maturity to see a R-rated film or play an M-rated game. Don't get me wrong, age is a factor, but it only became a big one when parents started being over protective. For example, most male children in the community i was raised, hunted using high power riffles at age 12, fired a gun at age 8, and saw a dear get gutted by age 6. They were mature enough to kill animals but not mature enough to play Halo, something ain't right there.

You know what's funny? I tried telling what you said to my mom's friend, but he said "videogames are way worse than shooting and hunting a deer". He once told me videogames can teach you how to kill...well wouldn't killing a real thing be worse than being "game trained"? Cause I'm pretty sure that if you were in real life trying to go GTA on people you wouldn't have as much health and ammo as your gangster counterpart....ya parents make a big deal out of new techonolagy. Once we create virtual realitity, there won't be many complaints...they would be both moving, and doing a hobby.

3) Go swear like that infront of your parents, or better yet swear like a sailor infront of the police, see if they let you get away with it. (You'd get slapped with an offence of Breach of The Peace, compare Rule 1 as that)

 

What happens when you break rule 1 *rated R for language* :anxious:

 

 

 

and this is how i tell peoples age?

 

Kids nowadays don't play Mario or Nintendo because they are "lame".

 

 

 

Mario is the best game ever :thumbsup:

 

 

 

On topic:

 

There should be something more to check peoples age out rather than just a yes/no check box.

 

 

 

 

:shock:

 

What's up with the people with the brainpower of a bird saying that most cops should die?

 

 

 

 

:shock:

 

What's up with the people with the brainpower of a bird saying that most cops should die?

 

 

 

Strange but true wisdom you have shared there, harrinator1.

 

 

 

Whiles it's cool to rebel, what happens when all authority is gone? Anarchy is all fine and dandy until the mad-mob turns on it's own members.

 

 

 

My sister and I found this out when she had her 18th party when our parents went away on holiday. Sadly some of her friends weren't trustworthy and a party for 11 of her friends turned into a mob over over 110. The result?

 

 

 

Well...we called the police but because the mob had already turned many times larger than the local police on-call so they didn't come in and help. Some of my sister's friends suffered bad injuries, and our parts of parents property were destroyed. Well...obviously we were both seriously grounded too, but we still felt lucky no one died. That was well over 10 years ago now. Oh and we never had another party since.

 

 

 

Sadly such scenarios according to reports are more common now...in fact from what I've heard parents are told by local authorities to either pay for security guards or don't hold teen parties.

 

 

 

If you seriously want anarchy (to be rid of figures of authority), there'll be a point when you realised when you've gotten far more than you ever bargained to get; and if you don't pay the price someone close to you might. Making your own rules from scratch is never as easy as one thinks it is.

 

 

 

Suddenly you'll be wishing for your parents, and anyone else who can help hold of the worse aspects of human nature in check when things go bad.

 

 

 

Go read Shakespere or even better "Lord of the Flies". The anarchy that ensures is actually a very grim scenario and nothing like the kind of freedom it's been romanticised to be.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Fey.

 

 

 

 

:shock:

 

What's up with the people with the brainpower of a bird saying that most cops should die?

It's the people that haven't seen a riot before...if you want to see what happens when people go in mobs (in a very vague way) watch a zombie movie. Like I said, very vague. The ones who want cops to die usually get into a lot of trouble with the cops, which is usually caused by their stupid actions. Anyways good question :|