October 29, 200718 yr Edited, rewritted some things after discussion. Hello, This is idea about possibility to smelt equipment to corresponding type of bars, like in real life possible to get some metal equipment and smelt it to any other form.. It's logical then must be possible to smelt some platebodies, kiteshields & etc.. back to bars too.. It's logical - because in RuneScape many things possible to make in few diferent ways We don't talk about abuse or making so easy smithing skill or to change smithing bars prices, just when you training for example combat or doing some other things you get tons useless for you stuff, like after monster killing you get steel kiteshield, plates & etc... i a lot of times wondered why i can't smelt it again to smithing bars.. We here discussed with guys and decided: 1. To smelt some item, player must have corresponding smithing level to make this item! 2. To prevent some abuse - smelting rate will be like this: Smelt 2 bronze bar equipment = 1 bronze bar. Smelt 3 iron bar equipment = 1 iron bar. Smelt 4 steel bar equipment = 1 steel bar. Smelt 5 mithril bar equipment = 1 mithril bar. Smelt 6 adamantite bar equipment = 1 adamantite bar. Smelt 7 rune bar equipment = 1 rune bar. * What mean stuff from 8 bars, it can be 8 wc axes (8 bars) or 1 platebody (5bars) + 1 Kiteshield (3bars) = 8 Bars & etc... 3. Way to smelt equipment to smithing bars must be a bit similar like Compost Making, just you use items on some machine (possible you can access this machine after some quest) - to make less work for Jagex developers it can be Furnance blast update i think :).. (i think here like developer :) ) We still discussing this idea and i give permissions then anybody can use it and can suggest it on RuneScape forums, just I 31 years old guy and working a lot and are busy almost time and i think we need some noble guy to fight on RS forum for this suggestion & i wish good luck because that can be very nice RuneScape Update! ;) :D Suggestion: You can use Anchor on Waterfiends - is cheap if to compare to GS & effective with crush attack & it hit like Whip.Visit my exp track
October 29, 200718 yr This is a logically right idea. This will end up making smithing too easy to level. So I don't think this will work. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency).
October 29, 200718 yr Author Sure, but main thing is then it very logic, in life nobody waste so much ores and all resources people trying to reuse :) Just all we know then sometimes when we train combat we get like drop some iron/steel/mith swords/shields or other useless drop, then we can reuse this like resource and then small lvl people can get some smithing levels training and getting from goblins they bronze sq shields & etc... I think possibility to smelt from some item some bar must be depended from smithing level and from grade of metal and from some random constant, like from Runite you have less chance to get bar then from bronze:) Really i think must be that kind possibility but we need here to do calculations to not make smithing so easy skill, just is logic why i can't buy from some general store iron platebodies and try to smelt it to bars :) just it logic.. :) To not make it so easy possible to make place where they can smelt items to bars so far from bank and unrearchable with some teleports Suggestion: You can use Anchor on Waterfiends - is cheap if to compare to GS & effective with crush attack & it hit like Whip.Visit my exp track
October 29, 200718 yr The problem is that no one irl says, "Hmm...let me smelt down my platebody so I might be able to gain that smithing level I wanted" I mean, the idea makes perfect sense, but it really does make smithing quite a bit easier. ~Ddaanniiellh : 1437 : 173Lowest Combat to 1,000 Total in F2P (23 Combat)Check me out on YouTube!
October 29, 200718 yr It is a logic thing. Yet this can be abused. Everyone will be buying equipments and smelting equipments into bars while earning smithing experiance points. This will lead to bar prices dropping. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency).
October 29, 200718 yr Author Bump - I updated main post :) Suggestion: You can use Anchor on Waterfiends - is cheap if to compare to GS & effective with crush attack & it hit like Whip.Visit my exp track
October 29, 200718 yr Seriously I get what you mean. The problem now is you can't use 2 items in a furnace at a time. So how is the game going to know which 2 item are you going to smelt into bars? The rate is really low. Hehe~ FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency).
October 29, 200718 yr Author Seriously I get what you mean. The problem now is you can't use 2 items in a furnace at a time. So how is the game going to know which 2 item are you going to smelt into bars? The rate is really low. Hehe~ I think it can be limited to 1 kind item, like you have in inventory steel shortswords and use one on furnance; Or it can't limited to 1 item, just you click on furnance and select type of metal and all stuff from this kind of metal in your inventory smelts to some bars.. Really i think possible to discuss about it.. ADDED AFTER EDIT: I think it can be furnance blast or some other device for example from new quest, you just use stuff on some device then do some actions to smelt it.. Suggestion: You can use Anchor on Waterfiends - is cheap if to compare to GS & effective with crush attack & it hit like Whip.Visit my exp track
October 29, 200718 yr Lets change it. Smelt 2 bronze bar equipment = 1 bronze bar. Smelt 3 iron bar equipment = 1 iron bar. Smelt 4 steel bar equipment = 1 steel bar. Smelt 5 mithril bar equipment = 1 mithril bar. Smelt 6 adamantite bar equipment = 1 adamantite bar. Smelt 7 rune bar equipment = 1 rune bar. This should be better. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency).
October 29, 200718 yr The smithing skill is long overdue for an update. I think this one might work for lower level players who can't afford to spent a lot of money on the skill :)
October 29, 200718 yr Ya... This will make equipment drops more useful too. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency).
October 30, 200718 yr Author Ya... This will make equipment drops more useful too. Sometimes when players have no any luck with drop - some drop can raise him spirit, just we allways think it's useless thing and this one i will use somewhere and when you get steel/iron med/shield or etc.. you say.. Trash again! :) Ok This is discussion for this idea and i glad then people think then this is right thing, for sure is important not to make so easy smithing skill or change metal bars prices, just like one guy said how much people playing RuneScape that much exist ways to play this game, in RuneScape possible not one skill and thing to make in few diferent ways and it can be right for smithing skill too. Suggestion: You can use Anchor on Waterfiends - is cheap if to compare to GS & effective with crush attack & it hit like Whip.Visit my exp track
October 30, 200718 yr it should be 5/1 ratio, and in a remote location. I feel that my ratio is good enough. As for the location it will be furnace location. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency).
October 30, 200718 yr The problem is that no one irl says, "Hmm...let me smelt down my platebody so I might be able to gain that smithing level I wanted" I mean, the idea makes perfect sense, but it really does make smithing quite a bit easier. ~Ddaanniiellh well duh... how many people in real life have jobs as knights? :-k
October 30, 200718 yr I think this a wonderful idea and it makes perfect sense. I hate useless drops and this shouldn't affect Smithing leveling that much.
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October 31, 200718 yr ^ to above, +1 On Topic: I support, It's a good idea I have always pondered to myself saying "self, where do the scraps go after smithing stuff?" :oops: Best Thread ever I am amazing. You are dirt :-w
October 31, 200718 yr I think this a wonderful idea and it makes perfect sense. I hate useless drops and this shouldn't affect Smithing leveling that much. This is what I'm thinking. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency).
October 31, 200718 yr Ya... This will make equipment drops more useful too. Yeah. Pretty nice idea.. Maybe from mithril onwards its 5 bars Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/
November 1, 200718 yr Ya... This will make equipment drops more useful too. Yeah. Pretty nice idea.. Maybe from mithril onwards its 5 bars That's also possible. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency).
November 2, 200718 yr i still don't get the smelt 2 bronze bar stuff = 1, does that mean you cant just buy something and keep making it, then turning it into bars again, and again? http://forum.tip.it/topic/173173-engineer-skill-and-railroads/<<Click! I support! Click!.-- .... -.-- .- .-. . -.-- --- ..- .-. . .- -.. .. -. --. - .... .. ... ..--..
November 2, 200718 yr Support, I've often wondered about this too. I love smithing and fighting so I am angry when I get a piece of loot that is worthless to me when fighting because it takes up valuable space and I think why shouldn't I be able to smelt it? EVE-online cross-over to this idea: reproccessing loot=about the same ratio of resources as your using now for re-smelting loot. Blender builderToday's experiment is:Learning how to make light industrial space craft.
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