My Runescape Rant

[dragonkng07]

This rant is three rants in itself. This is also a very long first post, but I ask that before you post, you read all the way through. This is also my first rant on this name. All the others were on my over TIF account, which I forgot the password to, and wasn't able to recover it. If there is anything that I have done wrong mods, please either post here and tell me, or message me through the forums. Otherwise, PM me ingame. Have fun reading.

 

 

 

1st

 

RC PKers

 

 

 

'low lifes' 'scum' 'noobs' 'geys' 'no lifers' 'miserable b*****ds'

 

among others...

 

 

 

I have had enough of the insults and abuse thrown at rc pkers. It is called the lowest thing on runescape, worse than macroing, begging, or scamming. Why?

 

 

 

RC pkers are no different to any other pker. They are attempting to kill a player in a PVP zone, risking all but maybe one of their items, on the off chance that they can kill the player. And for the troubles and abuse? A glory, a tiara, maybe some pouches (do they apppear?), and some pure ess. Maybe any other item the RC'ter took like a pick, or axe to get through.

 

 

 

It isn't like the players are taking abbysal whips, full third age armour, and furies to the abyss. You lose in one run... what? 75kish?

 

 

 

They are doing an honest part of runescape, and a role no different from people that kill you when trying to kill green dragons.

 

 

 

You go into the wildy, and you may get killed. If you don't want to risk it, use another method than the abyss. It is meant to be dangerous to get to, through, and to again. You are crafting runes quicker than any way except runners. Therefore, there should be more at risk.

 

 

 

Leave the RC pkers alone. Stop calling them names, and throwing abuse at them.

 

 

 

P.S. I have never PK'ed anyone in my runescape life. Not on my main, not on pures, never.

 

 

 

2nd

 

Internet

 

 

 

Yes. You are playing on an MMORPG where 99.9% of the people you meet will never know you, or meet you in real life. Therefore, you have no consequences to any of your actions if you watch your step with the rules. Why then, do people feel the need to act however they want to? The people who play this game are real people, if they are 8, or 65, male, female, of any colour and religon, of any part of the world. If you act however you want, you may annoy the hell out of someone, and what consequences are there for you?

 

 

 

None.

 

 

 

Although you can't do certain things to people, you can still insult them safely. Such insults as 'fat', 'no lifer', 'thick gey' and other insults are maybe not all against the rules, but they are still insults. People can be insulted, and hurt, because of the things you can say when doing what you want. You want to hunt red chins, and someone is already there. You don't bother switching worlds, or asking them if you could share the chins.

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

You attack the chins, ruining this persons training in your spite, and there is not a thing they can do about it. Eventually, they will leave or hop worlds, and you get your own way.

 

 

 

This can be many things, like the cannon at rock crabs/dags. You decide that you want to train your meele stats, and go to a not so dangerous place to do it, where the monsters are agressive and multi combat. You stay training for ten minutes, and someone hops to your world with a cannon. They then set it up, and competely own every monster within range. Your training is ruined, and you ask the cannoner to hop worlds, because you were here first. 'make me noob' is all you can expect to here from them, and you decide not to bother, and hop. At nearly every world you go to someone puts a cannon, and doesn't care one damn bit about you.

 

 

 

This can take many other forms, such as earlier. I am ardrounge square, stealing cakes, which I use as my main training food (free, heal as much a lobbie, and can upgrade to swordie heal with a cheap choc bar). Someone is killing paladins for training (a friend of mine), and someone comes up and trys to pickpocket them. The paladin dies before he can pick the pocket, and my friend apologises. Her response?

 

 

 

'stupid black jew' (I apologise if this offends anyone, but this is what he said, I am only quoting it. If it is not allowed on the forums, will a mod please tell me, and I will remove it. Once again, I apologise to anyone that gets offended by it)

 

 

 

We both immediatly reported him, and continue training without talking to him, but he follows my friend around, shouting out names and various abuse. Some was very offensive, but there was nothing we could do about it, except adding the person to our ignore list. He then logs out, and repeatedly comes back with various account names, saying some very offensive things as he comes. My friend and I add each person to our ignore list, but with four years of runescape under our belt, our ignore lists are full, and everytime we add someone, we have to delete another, who then spams our private chat (which is always on due to selling on forums) with abuse similar to the newly added player. The ignore list should have at least 250 spots on it, and even then, they can fill up fast with the community now.

 

 

 

If you are the type of person that says what they want, to who they want, I ask that you rethink this. This is meant to be a fun game, not another thing that we get insulted and abused on. I get enough of it at school, and I do not need it in a game.

 

 

 

3rd

 

Jagex

 

 

 

Why does everyone hate Jagex? I have seen so many rants, so many players, all with the same opinion of the creaters of the game they play. Many reasons are given as to why they hate Jagex, and in this tread, I will name the most used ones.

 

 

 

F2P VS P2P - many f2pers, and some p2pers, have ranted about things they have wanted for the f2p version of the game. Bank space, new quests, new skills, new items... the list is nearly endless.

 

Bank space is meant to be limited for f2pers, as the extra bank space of p2p is another perk for the people that pay for them game. This is how Jagex designed it, and that is the way they will keep it. Rants for more f2p bank space is not going to work. Don't bother.

 

 

 

Quests - the f2pers moan that they don't get enough quests. The p2pers moan that the quests they get are quickie quests that Jagex shouldn't even both making, and that the rewards are useless or rubbish. f2pers. You will not get any more quests than you already have, and to be honest, though they can all be done in a few hours, you have enough quests for a game that you are not paying to play. p2pers. The quests Jagex releases are not quickie quests, as you complain. Was recipe for disaster a quickie quest that they shouldnt have bothered making? Was cold war a rubbish, boring quest? Was MEP2 a quest that could be done easily? No. In my opinion, nearly every quest Jagex has realeased has been either entertaining, challenging or rewarding. Sometimes a mixture of two or all, as proved by recipe for disaster.

 

 

 

Macroers - one of the most despised characters in runescape. Everyone hates them, tries to get them banned, but to the players, Jagex has done nothing against the war that holds strong against the war between them and the macroers. You go to a f2p world, and what do you see at willows/yews? Loads of brown haird, green topped characters, swinging at the trees with their axes, and not answering and question aimed at them. In spite of this, Jagex has banned over 20k bots according to them, and the recent shop update, though angering many players, and ruining merchants, has helped stop the shop bots. Jagex is olding strong against the tide of macroers, and though more are being made every day, Jagex will keep banning them. The only thing we need to worry about is if we need a new account, and the macroers have taken EVERY name left. Not likely to happen. Anyway, do you complain when after 99 firemaking, or 99 fletching, you look on the forums, and there are so many people that are selling them. I would reckon that 33% of all willow logs on the forums were collected by macroers. (this is not a confirmed percentage. I am just reckoning that with the amount of macroers, compared to those that do not macro and sell, this is the percentage of logs that came origonally from a macroer)

 

 

 

Anyway, if you read ALL the way through the rant, thank you for taking the time. If you just skipped to this point, don't bother posting, as you will not have anything worth the post count to add.

 

 

 

I expect this to end in a flame war, and eventually, for this thread to be locked, but I wanted to let my opinion be known.

 

 

 

Have fun flaming me. My private is always turned to on, so PM me with flames/compliments if you want.

[Warrager]

It isn't like the players are taking abbysal whips, full third age armour, and furies to the abyss. You lose in one run... what? 75kish?

 

 

 

Who takes full third age, and furies to wildy...?

 

 

 

Also, about F2P questing. You could do all F2P quests in one weekend... So I'm not too sure that's good enough for a game where it takes hours and hours and hours to get any skill to 80...

 

 

 

Other then that, I understand most of your frustrations...

[Assassin1357]

It isn't like the players are taking abbysal whips, full third age armour, and furies to the abyss. You lose in one run... what? 75kish?

 

 

 

Who takes full third age, and furies to wildy...?

 

 

 

Also, about F2P questing. You could do all F2P quests in one weekend... So I'm not too sure that's good enough for a game where it takes hours and hours and hours to get any skill to 80...

 

 

 

Other then that, I understand most of your frustrations...

 

 

 

 

 

that was his point, no ones takes third age and furies to the wild. they arent paying for the game so they should be happy with the quest they have

[Roberthree]

1 word, pouches. They are a pain in the rear to get back.

[dragonkng07]

Even so, you aren't losing a lot of money, dying while rcing.

 

 

 

The f2p quests are enough for them I think. Maybe one or two harder quests would be nice, but let's face it. It's not going to happen. More quests are one of the main perks that made me become a member.

[Earth_Poet]

RC pkers are no different to any other pker. They are attempting to kill a player in a PVP zone, risking all but maybe one of their items, on the off chance that they can kill the player. And for the troubles and abuse? A glory, a tiara, maybe some pouches (do they apppear?), and some pure ess. Maybe any other item the RC'ter took like a pick, or axe to get through.

 

 

 

i think of them more of a nuisance really. rc pkers are just annoying skillers is all. they are trying to kill a player they pretty much know isn't going to fight back and can barely even defend themselves as they are already skulled with no prayer and usually not carrying items to fight with. even if the skiller does suit up and come back for a fight the rc pker 9 times out of 10 runs anyways. most aren't looking for a fight. they're looking for easy loot. like i said tho...they annoy me but i don't hate them with all my might. the abyss is in the wildy and the rc pker is meant to be an obstacle. i can't really defend them either. they're just ambushing skillers and hope you don't fight back.

 

 

 

what did annoy me was the update that made pvp combat override player vs npc combat. i've heard alot say it was a cheap tactic, but if i'm using the abyss...i'm already skulled with no prayer and not looking to fight. the abyss is in the wildy...but the skiller wasn't meant to be cannon fodder for the pker....the pker was meant to be an obstacle for the skiller.

[limpbizkit]

1st

 

RC PKers

 

 

 

'low lifes' 'scum' 'noobs' 'geys' 'no lifers' 'miserable b*****ds'

 

among others...

 

 

 

I have had enough of the insults and abuse thrown at rc pkers. It is called the lowest thing on runescape, worse than macroing, begging, or scamming. Why?

 

 

 

RC pkers are no different to any other pker. They are attempting to kill a player in a PVP zone, risking all but maybe one of their items, on the off chance that they can kill the player. And for the troubles and abuse? A glory, a tiara, maybe some pouches (do they apppear?), and some pure ess. Maybe any other item the RC'ter took like a pick, or axe to get through.

 

 

 

It isn't like the players are taking abbysal whips, full third age armour, and furies to the abyss. You lose in one run... what? 75kish?

 

 

 

They are doing an honest part of runescape, and a role no different from people that kill you when trying to kill green dragons.

 

 

 

You go into the wildy, and you may get killed. If you don't want to risk it, use another method than the abyss. It is meant to be dangerous to get to, through, and to again. You are crafting runes quicker than any way except runners. Therefore, there should be more at risk.

 

 

 

Leave the RC pkers alone. Stop calling them names, and throwing abuse at them.

 

 

 

P.S. I have never PK'ed anyone in my runescape life. Not on my main, not on pures, never.

 

 

 

 

<3.

[purfishx]

Finally! Someone understands RC PKers!

 

 

 

Agreed on everything you say. The abused hurled about nowadays is horrid and the Report button does, unfortunately, hardly anything.

 

 

 

The F2P bankspace is limited for a reason but a little too limited.

 

IMO, Jagex will never completely get rid of Macroers.

 

 

 

And @ Jagex-haters: If you can make a better game then by all means cuss out Jagex but until then just StFu.

[Solidus_77]

Rc pkers are pkers, but totally different attitude towards player killing. They would rather fight against someone they know is unarmed in the hopes of getting a small profit, however some will do it just for fun. These are the people who turn on melee pray when faced with an opponent armed with a pickaxe, or who get really mad when I successfully recover my pouches. Does that make them pathetic? that's up to you. I am merely exposing a fact.

 

 

 

In the category of "motives" there at two types of pkers. Those who do it because they want what they call "easy glories", or basically money. Fairly straight forward, I mean who here doesn't want to make cash? I don't have a problem with these guys except when they vanish without a trace, leaving me incapable of buying my stuff back (Why they get turned on by spotted capes will always be a mystery to me, but that is an item that I almost NEVER get back from them)

 

 

 

Then there are those who do it for fun. Basically, they don't care about the glory, they just want the rcer to lose his/her pouches and get pissed off. Quite honestly I don't like how someone can be so full of hate, are they annoyed at losing kills while pking? Are they jealous of rcers rich and prosperous life? or are they just plain emo. God knows, but I really don't care about their attitude because if I get annoyed at them, I am just giving them what they want. They are also there to "try" as best they can, to make sure I don't recover my pouches (which never seems to work, in which case they get mad). These guys are impossible to negociate with for buying items back because their sole purpose is to annoy me as much as possible.

 

 

 

Are they just like other pkers? No. Are they "scum" "low life"? That's your opinion.

[Omar]

Well, we can ask for bankspace can't we? I'm sure the ads are a source of profit for Jagex. It's not like they use the money to update F2P, probably for CS, and I doubt that takes so much money. And it's not like it will be a pain to implement, and it's not like no will will get memberships anymore.

[Zaaps1]

I can say I agree with you on all 3.

 

 

 

Some people just have to grow up and stop being selfish. The reason why everyone hates RC Pkers is because some selfish RC'er is too lazy to get the pouches back.

 

 

 

The reason why people try to ruin other's training is selfishness. I can admit to doing such things in my life also. It happens to us all. I guess we just have to try to keep it in check.

[123Yourgone]

Rc pkers are sad, nothing else to say really.

[DarkVincent]

Rc pkers are pkers, but totally different attitude towards player killing. They would rather fight against someone they know is unarmed in the hopes of getting a small profit, however some will do it just for fun. These are the people who turn on melee pray when faced with an opponent armed with a pickaxe, or who get really mad when I successfully recover my pouches. Does that make them pathetic? that's up to you. I am merely exposing a fact.

 

 

 

In the category of "motives" there at two types of pkers. Those who do it because they want what they call "easy glories", or basically money. Fairly straight forward, I mean who here doesn't want to make cash? I don't have a problem with these guys except when they vanish without a trace, leaving me incapable of buying my stuff back (Why they get turned on by spotted capes will always be a mystery to me, but that is an item that I almost NEVER get back from them)

 

 

 

Then there are those who do it for fun. Basically, they don't care about the glory, they just want the rcer to lose his/her pouches and get pissed off. Quite honestly I don't like how someone can be so full of hate, are they annoyed at losing kills while pking? Are they jealous of rcers rich and prosperous life? or are they just plain emo. God knows, but I really don't care about their attitude because if I get annoyed at them, I am just giving them what they want. They are also there to "try" as best they can, to make sure I don't recover my pouches (which never seems to work, in which case they get mad). These guys are impossible to negociate with for buying items back because their sole purpose is to annoy me as much as possible.

 

 

 

Are they just like other pkers? No. Are they "scum" "low life"? That's your opinion.

 

I agree with much of your post. Though knowing that when going to Wildy can be dangerous, it's too much cowardice to PK someone who has been working hard to get stuff to use the Abyss, and then losing to some guy. Especially because they usually go unarmed (I think). They shouldn't be flamed alot, they're PKers, but they're preying on the unarmed and probably weak. And that's a really bad act of cowardice.

 

 

 

 

3rd

 

Jagex

 

 

 

Why does everyone hate Jagex? I have seen so many rants, so many players, all with the same opinion of the creaters of the game they play. Many reasons are given as to why they hate Jagex, and in this tread, I will name the most used ones.

 

 

 

F2P VS P2P - many f2pers, and some p2pers, have ranted about things they have wanted for the f2p version of the game. Bank space, new quests, new skills, new items... the list is nearly endless.

 

Bank space is meant to be limited for f2pers, as the extra bank space of p2p is another perk for the people that pay for them game. This is how Jagex designed it, and that is the way they will keep it. Rants for more f2p bank space is not going to work. Don't bother.

 

 

 

Quests - the f2pers moan that they don't get enough quests. The p2pers moan that the quests they get are quickie quests that Jagex shouldn't even both making, and that the rewards are useless or rubbish. f2pers. You will not get any more quests than you already have, and to be honest, though they can all be done in a few hours, you have enough quests for a game that you are not paying to play. p2pers. The quests Jagex releases are not quickie quests, as you complain. Was recipe for disaster a quickie quest that they shouldnt have bothered making? Was cold war a rubbish, boring quest? Was MEP2 a quest that could be done easily? No. In my opinion, nearly every quest Jagex has realeased has been either entertaining, challenging or rewarding. Sometimes a mixture of two or all, as proved by recipe for disaster.

 

 

Bank space is supposed to be limited to EVERYONE, but less to Members. And it is working, there's more Want than Don't. It's because Jagex fuel our banks with random event items and holiday stuff. Making someone like Diango give lost Random Event items will lower most if not all Bankspace ranting.

 

If 18 quests are enough to a free game, they could at least be challenging. I only need to do Dragon Slayer but arguably it's a pretty easy quest. If there were long, challenging and FUN quests, asking for more F2P quests would stop for a while. And I'll agree with you on "quickie" members' quests, they ain't quick, they're challenging enough. There's few really easy quests on Members.

[tuttle43]

RC pkers are no different to any other pker. They are attempting to kill a player in a PVP zone, risking all but maybe one of their items, on the off chance that they can kill the player. And for the troubles and abuse? A glory, a tiara, maybe some pouches (do they apppear?), and some pure ess. Maybe any other item the RC'ter took like a pick, or axe to get through.

 

 

 

 

This is where you are wrong. Abyss pkers hardly risk anything at all since most runecrafters will not fight back. That's the reason they are despised so much, they are attacking players who have no interest in fighting. I have gained most of my runecraft levels through the abyss and been pked only a few times, but the times that I was killed the worst part was losing my four pouches since they can take up to an hour to get back. I will make sure they know how low they are on the pking hierarchy all I want.

[cowmasta13]

So killing random pedestrians in Iraq villages is all right because they are in a war zone?

[Maxx91]

So killing random pedestrians in Iraq villages is all right because they are in a war zone?

 

 

 

If they respawn in their town of birth keeping the 3 most expensive things they were carrying, it is..

[Warrager]

So killing random pedestrians in Iraq villages is all right because they are in a war zone?

 

 

 

If they respawn in their town of birth keeping the 3 most expensive things they were carrying, it is..

 

I didn't find that funny at ALL. I hope you weren't trying to be funny in the first place.

[Omar]

So killing random pedestrians in Iraq villages is all right because they are in a war zone?

 

No. This is different. Abyss RCers decide to go to the abbyss for training. They know very well what may happen to them. The Iraqis are stuck there. If they get hit, it's the end of their life. For an RCer, he loses an hours work... and maybe a few thousand GP -- Oh damn! They're ruined eh?

 

It's obvious you'll feel angry at someone that kills you, it's just stupid to not understand that they're the price to pay for the abbyss.

 

I didn't find that funny at ALL. I hope you weren't trying to be funny in the first place.

 

He wasn't. He meant that because that's pretty much what runescape is like, and what's happening in runescape is allright. That's not true though, the Iraqis didn't choose to be there. Say it's the soldier that dies. He keeps three of his most expensive items, comes back to his birth town without any pain. Well, he chose to be there, he payed the price. Although it is an honorable thing to do, that's just the way it is this time. This is Runescape, you can't compare losing items to death.

[thisismine]

i agree with point part 2 but not 1.

 

rc pkers get what 1 glory if they are lucky some pure ess and what every junk the rc'er is using to get through the wall (mith axe for me)

 

they attack you if your not going to fight back. but when you actually come armed they run as fast as they can or port.

 

btw do you have any idea on how annoying it is to get pouches ?

 

you say "only " 75k per run but lets be honest your not only going to do 1 run that would be a waste of time your more than likly to do 100+ over time.

 

 

 

 

 

out of interest do you use the abyss ?