Roberthree Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 This thread was started after I realized people with 1 defense and deep pockets could get unfair defense bonuses. People at one herblore can't make prayer pots? So why should people with one defense get furies and dhide? Here are some commonly used armors I see that should have a defense requirement in my opinion: Dragon Hide: I think all of it's parts should require defense requirements equal to their ranged requirements. Even legs and vambs. Green: 40 Blue: 50 Red: 60 Black: 70 Mystic Robes: Defense of 40 to match the magic requirement Fire Cape: 70 defense. This thing blows all other capes out of the water stat wise. RFD Gloves: Defense level to match the armor whose color they are (Mithril= 20 Rune=40, barrows=70 ect) I might think of more later. Comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestsob Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Do you want to die? A lynch mob of pures will be chanting for you blood within minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db300 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Personally, I like the idea. I'm not a pk'er by any measure though, so I don't know how this will affect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 Do you want to die? A lynch mob of pures will be chanting for you blood within minutes. The idea is to return balance between Defense, Strength, and Attack. Granted 99 def still won't be as powerful as 99 strength but at least it will make rune pures and 1 def pures think twice about their low defense levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I only support dragonhide amour and mage amour to require defence level to wear them. Other than that, no sorry... FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazarabbit Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Agreed. However i think 60 defence for Onyx Jewellery is too low. Also, you get the rewards from Heroe's quest to use glories, so unless they make the requirement for Heroe's Quest to have at least 50 defence it wouldn't work for dragonstone items. But i support. Proud Tip.It Moderator December 07 - October 2009Proud TETAU Member 2006 - 2007 <3"I had a standing agreement with god. I'd agree to believe in him, barely, so long as he let me sleep in on Sundays." - Rose Hathaway[ Posting & You ] [ Forum Rules ] [ Next Tetau Event ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Change Onyx to 70 defence then. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrager Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Kinda kills of some pures. Lots of rants going to errupt on RSOF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I only feel that amour, dragonhide and PTP mage set needs defence requirement. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 Dragon stone is currently matching the defense requirements of granite, and Onyx is matching Dragon armors. I can't find jewelry that I would consider "Barrows" strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilex Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 how about needing non combat skills as well like the fury could require 40 RC and 50 magic to wear to control the power in the fury amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtunney Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 i like the idea but then it would defeat the idea of pures maybe we should make weapons require same defence as attak then there would be no point to runescape.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 The reason why they don't do this is because they don't want to get flamed by pures. However much I like it, I'd have to say no. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voldmort0 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Do you want to die? A lynch mob of pures will be chanting for you blood within minutes.+1 What he meant to say is, that's way too much ;) Runescaper since June 2005Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE03 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 I like it. :-k [spoiler=Stats:]Updated December 22, 2011: Total level - 1442 - 170M+ XP , Combat level - 115Combat skills: Attack - 90, Defence - 99 (24.45m+ XP), Strength - 90, Constitution - 99 (16.42M+ XP) Ranged - 99 (13.32M+ XP), Prayer - 60, Magic - 99 (13.25M+ XP)Non-Combat skills: Cooking - 99 (13.80M+ XP), Woodcutting - 99 (31.95M+ XP), Fishing - 90, Firemaking - 99 (24.82M+), Crafting - 90, Smithing - 90, Mining - 85, Runecrafting - 60, Dungeoneering - 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberthree Posted November 11, 2007 Author Share Posted November 11, 2007 Do you want to die? A lynch mob of pures will be chanting for you blood within minutes.+1 What he meant to say is, that's way too much ;) No, the idea is that people with one defense should have the same protection as a level 3 even if their strength is 99. I purposely put glories and furies out of a rune-pure's reach. I want all three combat stats to be as important as the next one and this is helping defense make a come back. Screw the pures, they are only exploiting flaws in the combat system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrager Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Do you want to die? A lynch mob of pures will be chanting for you blood within minutes.+1 What he meant to say is, that's way too much ;) No, the idea is that people with one defense should have the same protection as a level 3 even if their strength is 99. I purposely put glories and furies out of a rune-pure's reach. I want all three combat stats to be as important as the next one and this is helping defense make a come back. Screw the pures, they are only exploiting flaws in the combat system. Kinda bad idea... Like they said, what would some pures be able to wear? I mean the ammies go a bit too far... Why don't you treat pures the same as you treat impures? You may say "well, pures aren't meant for the game", etc, but I find the def reqs are too far reaching. I mean power ammies don't even give amazing bonuses, yet 40 def...? The only thing 1 def pures can wear are accuracy ammies -.- ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Pirates Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 I can wear black D hide chaps at 1 def?! Wy not just have 1 def on rune platelegs.. -.- (Support btw) BR BR BR? HUEHUEHEUEHUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannabee789 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Sorry, but I hate these threads. If you discriminate pures like this, you aren't any better then the ones that whine about everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_de_Sable Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Do you want to die? A lynch mob of pures will be chanting for you blood within minutes. Yay, I hate purs anyway. [English translation needed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Sorry, but I hate these threads. If you discriminate pures like this, you aren't any better then the ones that whine about everything... Agreed. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalybobjr Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 why would i need a defense level to wear an amulet, that is pretty dumb no one needs a requirement in real life to go the store and buy a necklace :roll: other than that, i can see your point for the other things, not sure i support it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 ^ This is what I'm talking about. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Sorry, but I hate these threads. If you discriminate pures like this, you aren't any better then the ones that whine about everything... Other than that most pures drop trade items, are immature loudmouths, and abuse a flaw in the combat system? I am all for depowering pures. You should NOT be able to use high level items without the stats. If Jagex has the spine to fix the Prayer Interface Bug, which was used by probably 85% of the RS population, then I know they are capable of making it so that pures could not wield d hide chaps and furies. So what if a bunch of whiny 9 year olds flood the rants forum? That's what stickies and mods are for. Lock the excess threads and ban the creators. After enough miscreants are banned, the others will get the message and stop replicating threads about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 As it's written. Everything that add defence to players' defence require defence level to equip. It does make sense other than jewellery. I'll give you guys some idea. Idea: Warriors' amour: Bronze: 1 defence. Iron: 10 defence. Steel: 20 defence. Black: 30 defence. Mithril: 40 defence. Adamantite: 50 defence. Runite: 60 defence. Dragon: 70 defence. Rangers' amour: Green dragonhide: 60 defence. Blue dragonhide: 70 defence. Red dragonhide: 80 defence. Black dragonhide: 90 defence. Mages' amour: Ghostly robe: 10 defence. Lunar robe: 20 defence. Enchanted robe: 30 defence. Mystic robe: 40 defence. Infinity robe: 50 defence. Third age robe: 60 defence. Jewellery: Dragon stone: 70 defence. Onyx: 80 defence. All FTP equipments that does not include there will be 1 defence. This doesn't include all PTP equipments. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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