Rune Mining/Smithing No Longer Profitable?

[Maximusa]

I havnt mined at the double spawn spots ever since I got bored of having to time them. I found it kinda stressful.. I found the one spawn spots more enjoyable considering its meant to be a game for fun. Its always been easy to mine at these spots without bumping into anyone after many hours if at all. Pretty much always open at less busy times. This update to wild has only made something already easy even easier.

 

 

 

Smithing died for me when the duel arena changes came into effect. The only real decent profit you could sell easy in bulk was to stakers.. now they are dead my method is gone. All the other ways usally involve a loss, time consuming, or impractical. Perhaps the only easy bulk method left is superheating the bars and selling them back... Which is usually a lower rune smithers method for raising their levels to something thats capable of achieving more. :-# I feel sorry for anyone wanting to train their smithing, even those who wish to pay for it. Ouch.

 

 

 

I usually mine on the same 4 or 5 2,000 player worlds cause respawn is ~12.5M on full worlds.

 

 

 

Noone realy goes there if I'm on unless they're lvl 99 mining too.

 

 

 

It's only profitable no adays if you mine the rune which is yes hard but I guess we have to live with it.

 

 

 

Hotspot is around 92 mining because lower levels beat higher levels. If you want to beat 99 miners its around 85-92 mining you want. \ So your 99 mining doesnt help you much sorry to say. Evidence to many miners testing of all level ranges including me, the very high and the 99+, even rank number 1. When im mining im scared of all miners lower than me.. Higher miners I laugh my [wagon] off as I take their rocks. :shock: (Im not saying I actually like this but its how runescape spins!) I have seen your progess as you leveled your levels and I know you mined gold. I dont see why you would have to fight much at those spots so you probably not too experienced with rocks like coal or rune where there is usually more competition.

 

 

 

I personally mine rune ores for my own use. I smith rune swords and high alch them for 12,480 each.

 

 

 

As I pay nothing for the ores, it's all profit for me (yes, I craft my own nats).

 

 

 

People who gather their own resources are still making money.

 

People who don't are writing long theses on fan sites about how the economy no longer works.

 

 

 

As for me, I am laughing all the way to the bank.

 

 

 

Yeh.. Haha.. ah wait. Opportunity cost.. Do'h! Otherwords.. 'wasting your time making stuff yourself that could be sold for more cost.' ..Not saying there anything wrong with the way you do it. But your ARE making a loss by not selling the stuff to begin with..

[NukeMarine]

It's a lousy suggestion, but I think it needs to be brought up:

 

 

 

Runite rocks need a timer attached to the player not to the server. This will stop one of the major reasons left for world hopping.

 

 

 

Each rock has a 20 minute timer. This will encourage (nay benefit) high level miners with high skills and quests to travel between rune rocks on the same server.

 

 

 

So, a player teleports to Game Room, runs to hero's guild and gets two rocks. Teleports to edge (banks ore), gets axe to take waka upto near teleport to get near the rune rocks there. Runs the lava maze. Finally, gets to Neitznot for last rune rock. By the time, the first rune rock has refreshed.

 

 

 

I think in that, he can pull off about 15 rocks an hour. Slow gp, but better than world hopping on the "hope" of getting a rock.

[Lord_Omar_Iv]

it just mind boggles me how jagex thinks revenants are going to control rune rocks against miners like pkers did..... total bs

[lordkafei]

 

I personally mine rune ores for my own use. I smith rune swords and high alch them for 12,480 each.

 

 

 

As I pay nothing for the ores, it's all profit for me (yes, I craft my own nats).

 

 

 

People who gather their own resources are still making money.

 

People who don't are writing long theses on fan sites about how the economy no longer works.

 

 

 

As for me, I am laughing all the way to the bank.

 

 

 

Yeh.. Haha.. ah wait. Opportunity cost.. Do'h! Otherwords.. 'wasting your time making stuff yourself that could be sold for more cost.' ..Not saying there anything wrong with the way you do it. But your ARE making a loss by not selling the stuff to begin with..

 

 

 

Eh... PKers had gutted that market long before the GE came into being. I had given up on selling smithed items - I was being undercut by people offloading PK loot.

 

 

 

What's worse is that people in the markets expected me to smith rune items on demand at the same prices that PKers were selling at. Scimitars were so cheap it was heartbreaking.

 

 

 

Maybe you can still sell claws, squares & warhammers to clue farmers... but there's no bulk smithing market outside of high alching for the best return you can get.

 

 

 

So I mine my own ores, make my own nats, high alch rune swords and make a profit that way.

[OminoWish]

Mining/Smithing isn't really profitabe, and it is in dire need of some updates.

 

 

 

The only good way i can think of for smithing is making cannonballs, and if i were to mine, i would only mine coal and iron, which i would then sell, as smithing is pretty much useless to me.

 

 

 

Omino Wish

[chc05dude]

It's the effects of the market restrictions.

 

 

 

They're forcing more people to skill for cash.

 

 

 

So, the skilling areas get busier.

[upthebanner]

I now mine rune wearing only plate and helm and power ammy so I would not lose much at all if killed by revenents.

 

 

 

When pkers were around it would be full rune and skimmy.

 

 

 

I can now be attacked by revenents and just run to altar and restore prayer.

 

 

 

When pkers were around I would stuff my face while running until level 20 and then teleport.

 

 

 

I hated pkers but enjoyed them in a perverse sort of way.

 

 

 

Rune ore is easier to get now but I am just stockpiling at the moment. I am a level 90 smither and 99 miner but intend to become a 99 smither without smelting, spending money or mining (go figure that out !!!). I rarely used to go rune mining because of lack of xp and the total time spent in preparing for trip and recovering afterwards so I made addy items instead to high alch.

 

 

 

Smithing and mining may not make as much money now ( I sold rune wc axes for 16 - 20 mill) but in F2P they still rock (excuse the pun) and have the most kudos associated with the achievements of 99s.

 

 

 

By the way I noticed someone posted about higher level miners not being as good as lower levels. Is this true? Can anyone absolutely confirm or deny this? It has always been the biggest cause of my blood preesure rising and I thought I just needed to sharpen my pick.

[Jncon]

Well since I am 99 smithing and a rune miner I would like to give my views on this whole situation.

 

With the update from the GE, rune prices dropped rapidly. There is no way to sell a rune item for and other price except the bare minimum. I have been watching the prices fall day after day. My biggest fear is that the prices are going to stop at the alching price. Which is what is going to happen since there is way to much supply of rune items now since everyone can clean their bank out easily.

 

I have recently attempted to rune mine just to see if I could turn myself a profit by mining and smithing and alching legs. Which isn't bad money since I dont have to do any selling and can alch for 38k each.

 

I took my pickaxe out of the bank for the first time in months and loaded up on sharks and armour. Went to the teleport lever in Ardy and found myself in a world of pain. Waiting for me at the lever was a bunch of those ghosts which I quickly turned on protect prayer, and what did I get. He started usuing another form of attack. I ran from them through the member gate and encountered another group of ghosts at the rocks.

 

To make it plain and simple, I used an entire load of sharks just to walk to the rune rocks, didnt even get to mine a ore. I am 109 combat so I was thinking these new npcs wouldnt do much to me. I was suprised. The way it stands now, there is no way to effectively mine rune at the rune rocks in the wilderness. The only other option is the hero guild. I spent 2 hours the other night there and didnt even get a full load.

 

With all this said, the days of making 1.5m off a r2h are long overdue. The skill is dead, which was predictable. I remember days when I would make 1500 kites and r2hs a day. So the supply of items has slowly ruined the demand for rune. There is no way to save smithing unless they redesign the way it works. IE: repairing armour for players. Which that is highly unlikely since there is the assist skill thing. (I will never assist anyone, since they did nothing to earn what I worked for)

 

I dont understand what all Jagex has done to the skill that made the game what it is. Something has to be done. I am waiting every day for something to happen. As of now, I will not use my hammer or pick axe anymore, I am better off ranging greaters for clues to make cash.

[SwreeTak]

Smithing will be dead?

 

I don't think so. The rune miners and smithers might not earn as much as before, but smithing will never die. There will always be those who will train smithing, even though they might not earn as much as before on training it.

[Latinoking]

I say add more rune rocks maybe more in Nezzy but also add some in Jatizo?