Terrorism

[Shahrazad]

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They are all after money and oil -.-. I don't really involve myself in politics that much but I really hate terrorists because of what they have done to my country. Shame on them to have suicide bombers and killing millions of innocent people. May they burn in HELL!

 

It's ironic that the United States was also after money and oil, and that they have killed THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqi lives as well.

 

 

 

By the way, don't believe every single article, some of them don't trasnport the actual situations and the main reasons behind it.

 

Could you elaborate?

 

 

 

The invasion of Iraq was a mistake that the entire world now must suffer from. :(

 

 

 

Not to get off topic, but here's a intresting thought. Many people say the government attacked Iraq for oil which the oil business you can accumulate ALOT of wealth FAST.

 

 

 

American alone uses 25,000,000 barrels of oil a DAY. I tried to visually see this in the Crysis editor by place 25 million barrels but it only let me get up to 600,000+ objects, but let me tell you, THATS ALOT OF OIL AT STAKE.

 

 

 

So then with the government lieing to us, attempting us to believe Iraq has WMD's, terrorists, and all other sorts of things going on, their hidden agenda was to capture the oil.

 

 

 

So why do 9/11 consparicy's(sp?) get shot down? Yes, it does sound dumb to attack your own buildings, but like someone else said. More people die in the streets due to proverty and crime in America in a single day than 9/11.

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America didn't invade Iraq because it's the location of terrorism, maybe because of Saddam Hussain but not for terrorism. I already mentioned that they suddenly appeared in 2004. I myself didn't even know who were terrorists and what was the word *terrorist* mean before the war. In both situations Iraqi people have been suffering alot, even more now.

 

 

 

However, now Iraq has terrorists who are killing thousands of innocent people and injuring millions of them just to destroy Iraq completely :(.

 

 

 

Let me tell you something, when American soldiers invaded Baghdad they quickly went to the main oil portfolio to protect it from being robbed and ruined. I saw that when I had a tour outside by car with my dad to see what had happened (as nearly everything was settled down - i.e no explosions etc...).

 

 

 

Anyway, 9/11 incident was sadly terrible. I can't believe how would they want to kill innocent people. It's just stupid with no self conscience.

[venomai]

Anyway, 9/11 incident was sadly terrible. I can't believe how would they want to kill innocent people. It's just stupid with no self conscience.

 

Yet you're ignoring the fact that America kills thousands of innocent people as well. Sure, it's all in the name of "counter-terrorism"... but is there really a difference?

 

 

 

So why do 9/11 consparicy's(sp?) get shot down? Yes, it does sound dumb to attack your own buildings, but like someone else said. More people die in the streets due to proverty and crime in America in a single day than 9/11.

 

I wouldn't go as far as saying America did that to themselves, but it's certain that the government benefited from the event.

 

 

 

It was the true starting point of the "War on Terror" and it allowed America (along with many other nations) to increase violence and military production all for the cause of defending themselves against "terrorism".

 

 

 

Out of pure fear, fear that was only increased by the government and media coverage of terrorism, the public began to support the military efforts. Soon, the "defense" against terrorism turned into offense, and the U.S. began to invade and attack various "hot spots" in the Middle East. The American public didn't resist -- they were so afraid of terrorists that they believed it to be a good idea.

 

 

 

Now that years have gone by and thousands upon thousands of innocent lives (on both sides) have been ruined, people are starting to have second thoughts as to whether it was a good idea in the first place.

[BlueLancer]

 

Terrorisme is the new (illegal) form of combat.

 

 

 

How can combat really have rules? Is it legal to invade a country, use 'smart bombs' which kills civilians, destroy nearly it's entire infrastructure, even if the UN is strongly against the plan and rules it incompliant to resolutions passed by other nations in the world?

 

 

 

If 'right by might' is legality, then sure.

 

 

 

However, now Iraq has terrorists who are killing thousands of innocent people and injuring millions of them just to destroy Iraq completely

 

 

 

As an Iraqi, you'd probably have insight into this...

 

 

 

How would you react if your entire family, relatives and children were killed by an occupying country's missile or tank/mortar shells while searching for "buildings that harbor terrorists"? Could you just go on about your life all alone?

 

 

 

Think what your life would be right now if you had no family, siblings, relatives, grandparents etc. alive, then think what a "terrorist" insurgent goes through.

 

 

 

Going for innocent kids and people in marketplaces is disgusting and cowardly, but when you have nothing left to live for or see no meaning in your life, dying while taking as many people down with you, or martyring yourself, can start looking surprisingly appealing.

 

 

 

It's not just in Iraq, it happens in the USA as well. Look at the psychological profile of those people that massacred innocent students. They were not bearded middle-eastern, middle-aged men. They were exactly the same as most suicide bombers; Young, angry at the world, isolated, depressed, with barely any life experience. Just of a different ethnicity (not that it matters)

[Ginger_Warrior]

Out of pure fear, fear that was only increased by the government and media coverage of terrorism, the public began to support the military efforts. Soon, the "defense" against terrorism turned into offense, and the U.S. began to invade and attack various "hot spots" in the Middle East. The American public didn't resist -- they were so afraid of terrorists that they believed it to be a good idea.

 

 

 

Now that years have gone by and thousands upon thousands of innocent lives (on both sides) have been ruined, people are starting to have second thoughts as to whether it was a good idea in the first place.

 

See this is an interesting point to me. We've also now unfortunetely experienced a terrorist attack on British soil, in both London and Glasgow, and we've also had many of our own troops die fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Admittedly not as many as have died in America, but nonetheless some of our commanders compare the situation to Ulster.

 

 

 

Yet at no point has there really been a majority of this country in favour of military action in Afghanistan and especially not in Iraq.

 

 

 

I think it may have something to do with the George Bush Administration. I'm not saying they would actually coordinate a 'self-inflicted wound', but whilst our government called for tolerance and free will in order to defeat terrorism, yours openly declared war on those that had attacked you.

 

 

 

I'm getting the impression America has started to see it cannot defeat terrorism through military action. Would you say that's true?

[Shahrazad]

Anyway, 9/11 incident was sadly terrible. I can't believe how would they want to kill innocent people. It's just stupid with no self conscience.

 

Yet you're ignoring the fact that America kills thousands of innocent people as well. Sure, it's all in the name of "counter-terrorism"... but is there really a difference?

 

 

 

Ok because I was talking about a different matter. Plus more innocent people are being killed now more than during the war itself. You're ignoring that fact too ;).

 

I wouldn't be alive if I was still living there in Iraq, but I was alive during the war :). Thanks god I left.

 

 

 

The main problem now for the world is terrorism and everybody knows that.

 

 

 

As an Iraqi, you'd probably have insight into this...

 

 

 

How would you react if your entire family, relatives and children were killed by an occupying country's missile or tank/mortar shells while searching for "buildings that harbor terrorists"? Could you just go on about your life all alone?

 

 

 

Think what your life would be right now if you had no family, siblings, relatives, grandparents etc. alive, then think what a "terrorist" insurgent goes through.

 

 

 

Going for innocent kids and people in marketplaces is disgusting and cowardly, but when you have nothing left to live for or see no meaning in your life, dying while taking as many people down with you, or martyring yourself, can start looking surprisingly appealing.

 

 

 

It's not just in Iraq, it happens in the USA as well. Look at the psychological profile of those people that massacred innocent students. They were not bearded middle-eastern, middle-aged men. They were exactly the same as most suicide bombers; Young, angry at the world, isolated, depressed, with barely any life experience. Just of a different ethnicity (not that it matters)

 

 

 

Don't just quote a random sentence of mine and give details and reasons about it. My sentences are all linked to each other and about a specific matter :).

 

 

 

You should sure know that terrorists' brains have been washed. They don't care if they would suicide to kill innocent people. Their brains have been washed about a certain and specific cause and concern. They have been taught and directed.

[sonerohi]

If there was a real war on terror then we would be killing Bush and his helpers. We have no right to continue this, and the only thing our presence is doing is enraging the citizcens and causing them to fight back against our troops.

 

 

 

People I speak to who are in the US army and have served in Iraq tell wildly different stories than that.

 

 

 

There was even one instance when an Iraqi civilian threw himself at a suicide bomber before he could reach a Coalition and Iraqi held position, and died along with the terrorist for his trouble. But of course people like you never hear stories like that because you're too busy listening to hardcore anti-war propaganda.

 

Except that you never hear those stories. All that makes the news anymore is how Iraqi citizcens killed 4 people with a carbomb. I don't listen to "harcore anti-war propaganda", I listen to every single thing I can find, and every single dam thing is showing that they hate us, we've helped them enough, they want us to go.

[FooK-A-Ji]

 

 

 

You should sure know that terrorists' brains have been washed. They don't care if they would suicide to kill innocent people. Their brains have been washed about a certain and specific cause and concern. They have been taught and directed.

 

 

 

Which terrorists ?

 

Investigation has discovered that the 4 members of the london bombings acted isolated by themselves, it was the coincidence of 4 antisocial elements adjoined, that culminated into the terrorist act.

 

 

 

the local mosque and imams have been proven innocent and non-agressive in their form of teaching.

 

 

 

All 4 were "normal" until joining up and becoming a 5th entity. A single terrorist cell, with NO affilitation to Al-qaeda or any other terrorist recruiters.

 

 

 

So what you say is partially true, but regarding the bombings in london that affected your country, they are not.

[FooK-A-Ji]

 

Except that you never hear those stories. All that makes the news anymore is how Iraqi citizcens killed 4 people with a carbomb. I don't listen to "harcore anti-war propaganda", I listen to every single thing I can find, and every single dam thing is showing that they hate us, we've helped them enough, they want us to go.

 

 

 

You obviously have a hard time distinguishing between iraqi civilians and iraqi's with affiliation to terrorist networks. :roll:

 

 

 

ON a side note, America is a country founded on violence (boston tea assault) (civil war) (killing off of indians)

 

So it didn't surprise me that after 8 years of peace with Bill Clinton the rest of the government was itching for a new war. After all they gained nothing in the gulf war, so why not try again ?

 

I'm not talking about american citiziens, but the american government, which suffers major issues.

[Shahrazad]

 

 

 

You should sure know that terrorists' brains have been washed. They don't care if they would suicide to kill innocent people. Their brains have been washed about a certain and specific cause and concern. They have been taught and directed.

 

 

 

Which terrorists ?

 

 

 

Investigation has discovered that the 4 members of the london bombings acted isolated by themselves, it was the coincidence of 4 antisocial elements adjoined, that culminated into the terrorist act.

 

 

 

 

 

Does that mean you don't know how a person becomes a terrorist? or you say it's from nature?

 

I didn't know terrorists are linked to different groups :roll:.

 

Anyway, the sentences you quoted wasn't referring to a specific group. I just said it generally.

 

 

 

 

 

the local mosque and imams have been proven innocent and non-agressive in their form of teaching.

 

 

 

All 4 were "normal" until joining up and becoming a 5th entity. A single terrorist cell, with NO affilitation to Al-qaeda or any other terrorist recruiters.

 

 

 

So what you say is partially true, but regarding the bombings in london that affected your country, they are not.

 

 

 

I didn't link the incident of the bombings in London to Iraq. I didn't even say that it was affected by it. That incident happened after the war. Read my posts carefully from page one ;).

 

 

 

Read this article and check out the terrorists. BBC news is a very good source by the way.

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4678837.stm

 

 

 

Look how they were living their life peacefully until their brains have been washed.

[darkmage099]

9/11 started World War III.

 

Just slightly different then the previous ones.

 

 

 

Terrorisme is the new (illegal) form of combat.

 

 

 

No, it is not WWIII because this war does not involve the whole world.

[tryto]

9/11 started World War III.

 

Just slightly different then the previous ones.

 

 

 

Terrorisme is the new (illegal) form of combat.

 

 

 

No, it is not WWIII because this war does not involve the whole world.

 

 

 

Did the others? Where were Columbia, Iceland, Saudi Arabia, Madagascar,Switzerland, and many other countries in World War 1/2?

[Shahrazad]

Kill Life said *slightly different* :.

 

 

 

LOL! :lol:.

[venomai]

Plus more innocent people are being killed now more than during the war itself. You're ignoring that fact too ;).

 

The Iraq War is still ongoing, so any deaths that occur now are still "during the war".

 

 

 

If you meant to say the 2003 Iraq invasion, that was the peak of the violence. Far fewer people are being killed now than during the initial attacks.

 

 

Source: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

 

 

 

There were 2,752 civilian deaths from the 9/11 attacks. Although this is sad, it is nothing compared to the numbers in Iraq. Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, there have been around 80,000 to 87,000 civilian deaths from violence, and that number is still climbing.

 

 

 

I wouldn't say America is the cause of all those Iraqi deaths, but I would go as far as saying many of them (if not most) would not have died so violently had America not invaded Iraq.

[Shahrazad]

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Plus more innocent people are being killed now more than during the war itself. You're ignoring that fact too ;).

 

The Iraq War is still ongoing, so any deaths that occur now are still "during the war".

 

 

 

If you meant to say the 2003 Iraq invasion, that was the peak of the violence. Far fewer people are being killed now than during the initial attacks.

 

 

Source: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

 

 

 

There were 2,752 civilian deaths from the 9/11 attacks. Although this is sad, it is nothing compared to the numbers in Iraq. Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, there have been around 80,000 to 87,000 civilian deaths from violence, and that number is still climbing.

 

 

 

I wouldn't say America is the cause of all those Iraqi deaths, but I would go as far as saying many of them (if not most) would not have died so violently had America not invaded Iraq.

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The war in Iraq finished since 9th of April 2003.

 

The statistics are correct but 24,000 civilian Iraqi deaths occured in 2007. I believe that is too much comparing to the year 2003.

 

The worst year was late 2006 and had been stained throughout the year 2007.

 

 

 

http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/25740

 

 

 

And it's still climbing because of terrorism.

 

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews ... 9820080101

[killaman_47]

Ok just to start i have to say

 

Terrorism is the new communism.

 

Thats wrong for a whole load of reasons. it implys that communism was the work of a group of religious zelots and warmongerers, which is quite obviously wrong if you look at communists like che guvera (i know the spelling is wrong)

 

 

 

Anyway when people talk about terrorists i always think off two things..

 

 

 

One. Terrorism is almost entirely the work of religous extremists who, to be fair, america has more than its fair share off (part of the united states is called the "bible belt" for a reason) think about it like this. If the Communists had won the cold war would the Terrorists be american christian extremists? Probably, they preach with the same vigor as the terrorist leaders the only reason they arnt bombing people is becase they have the better life that the ones that do the bombing are fightning for.

 

 

 

Two. terrorism can be summed up (from the terrorists point of veiw) by the following quote from an Ira terrorist "we only have to get lucky once, you have to be lucky all the time" now that is true it only takes one well thought out attack to bring a city to chaos but it takes a lot of luck to stop this from happening.

 

 

 

i think people block out terrorism becase if we spent our time worring about it we would never get anything done. the same is true for all of our fears you could get run over every day you leave your house, but does it worry you as much as your next bill? probably not to forget/ignore things that scare us is just human nature.

 

 

 

im scottish and have a massive amount of respect for the people who fought back at the glasgow airport attack. Personaly i think thats part of human nature too the "fight or flight" reflex so to speak. Perhaps the way to beat terrorists is not by military strength becase, lets face it, when has that ever really worked? but to apeall to the one thing we all share. A sence of humanity.

[FooK-A-Ji]

 

Does that mean you don't know how a person becomes a terrorist? or you say it's from nature?

 

I didn't know terrorists are linked to different groups :roll:.

 

Anyway, the sentences you quoted wasn't referring to a specific group. I just said it generally.

 

C'mon, don't take it as a personal assault :roll:

 

You know that generalization on this subject is a big mistake.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't link the incident of the bombings in London to Iraq. I didn't even say that it was affected by it. That incident happened after the war. Read my posts carefully from page one ;).

 

 

 

Read this article and check out the terrorists. BBC news is a very good source by the way.

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4678837.stm

 

 

 

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Like I said, you were telling a partial truth. Its not fair to leave the other half out when addressing such a serious subject.

 

 

 

On a side note, I prefer to believe police as a source over press, as a source of truth.

 

 

 

Look how they were living their life peacefully until their brains have been washed

 

They washed it themselves, like I said, the 4 people coming together under the circumstances joined them into a 5th entity. What they didn't dare to alone, they dared do together, because they had eachother.

 

BBC doesn't state this.

 

 

 

Your right, they were brainwashed, but they brainwashed themselves, quite a big difference from Al qaeda coming and promising you 40 virgins and eternal life in paradise in exchange for blowing ur guts out.

[FooK-A-Ji]

Perhaps the way to beat terrorists is not by military strength becase, lets face it, when has that ever really worked? but to apeall to the one thing we all share. A sence of humanity.

 

 

 

Terrorism in the modern sense is violence, the threat of violence, or other harmful acts committed for political or ideological goals. Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians). Many definitions also include only acts of unlawful violence.

 

 

 

This is what makes a terrorist. To become one, one must forsake any sence of humanity first. So appealing to that side of human nature is futile anyway .

[Shahrazad]

 

Does that mean you don't know how a person becomes a terrorist? or you say it's from nature?

 

I didn't know terrorists are linked to different groups :roll:.

 

Anyway, the sentences you quoted wasn't referring to a specific group. I just said it generally.

 

C'mon, don't take it as a personal assault :roll:

 

You know that generalization on this subject is a big mistake.

 

 

 

I didn't take it as a personal assault. Discussions have nothing to do with personal assault, and generalization might be true, especially about this matter :P.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't link the incident of the bombings in London to Iraq. I didn't even say that it was affected by it. That incident happened after the war. Read my posts carefully from page one ;).

 

 

 

Read this article and check out the terrorists. BBC news is a very good source by the way.

 

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4678837.stm

 

 

 

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Like I said, you were telling a partial truth. Its not fair to leave the other half out when addressing such a serious subject.

 

 

 

On a side note, I prefer to believe police as a source over press, as a source of truth.

 

 

 

What other half? I've seen loads of incidents in Iraq. I don't wish to say every single detail because I don't want to and it has nothing to do with the whole topic. It seems you've lived there and know information more than me LOL.

 

The source came from witnesses (people and police). So it's kind of the same thing to believe about :). However, always remember that a witness can't remember all the details because of memory distortion.

 

 

 

Look how they were living their life peacefully until their brains have been washed

 

 

 

They washed it themselves, like I said, the 4 people coming together under the circumstances joined them into a 5th entity. What they didn't dare to alone, they dared do together, because they had eachother.

 

BBC doesn't state this.

 

 

 

Your right, they were brainwashed, but they brainwashed themselves, quite a big difference from Al qaeda coming and promising you 40 virgins and eternal life in paradise in exchange for blowing ur guts out.

 

 

 

How do you know they washed themselves? of course they have been taught and directed. They didn't teach or direct themselves.

 

And yes BBC didn't state every single detail because they didn't have enough witnesses and sources from people.

[FooK-A-Ji]

generalization might be true, especially about this matter :P.

But its not true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

How do you know they washed themselves? of course they have been taught and directed. They didn't teach or direct themselves.

 

And yes BBC didn't state every single detail because they didn't have enough witnesses and sources from people.

 

 

 

I've watched a program go in-depth on exactly these 4 persona.

 

Their social networks were studied, and there were no extremists in their social networks.

 

The 4 became more and more introverted as a group, keeping to themselves, studying the koran by themselves (obviously leading to a distortion of their beliefs)

 

So yes, they did teach and direct themselves. The Imam teacher at the local mosque asked the 4 boys to stay away from the mosque as a result of their more and more extreme ways to think.

 

They did teach themselves, and the 4 leaned on eachother for direction.

 

The whole program was a study on how terrorist cells can just "pop up" on their own. I'm really not pulling this out of thin air, you know.

[venomai]

The war in Iraq finished since 9th of April 2003.

 

This was the day that Baghdad fell.

 

It wasn't until April 15th that the "invasion phase" was declared complete.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, the invasion was only the beginning of the Iraq War. Some people give the current efforts a different title, like the "Occupation in Iraq", but to the soldiers and civilians there it is still very much a "war". Iraq insurgents kill hundreds of Coalition soldiers through guerilla warfare, and many more citizens. To say that the war is finished would be wrong.

 

 

 

Here is a pretty good summary of the ongoing war in Iraq:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

 

 

 

Terrorism is the new communism.

 

Thats wrong for a whole load of reasons. it implys that communism was the work of a group of religious zelots and warmongerers, which is quite obviously wrong if you look at communists like che guvera (i know the spelling is wrong)

 

I think he was referring to the fact that America's new "War on Terror" is similar to the old "War on Communism". In both cases, the public hated the idea of terrorists/communists and supported war efforts to defeat them.

[Shahrazad]

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How do you know they washed themselves? of course they have been taught and directed. They didn't teach or direct themselves.

 

And yes BBC didn't state every single detail because they didn't have enough witnesses and sources from people.

 

 

 

I've watched a program go in-depth on exactly these 4 persona.

 

Their social networks were studied, and there were no extremists in their social networks.

 

The 4 became more and more introverted as a group, keeping to themselves, studying the koran by themselves (obviously leading to a distortion of their beliefs)

 

So yes, they did teach and direct themselves. The Imam teacher at the local mosque asked the 4 boys to stay away from the mosque as a result of their more and more extreme ways to think.

 

They did teach themselves, and the 4 leaned on eachother for direction.

 

The whole program was a study on how terrorist cells can just "pop up" on their own. I'm really not pulling this out of thin air, you know.

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I've watched a program which was about terrorists in England and the causes of the bombings in London but I don't really remember the title, sorry.

 

 

 

And yes, I don't want to pull out everything either because I don't like to mention all the details and what happened there during the war because I'll get annoyed and I'll get asked many questions :D.

[Shahrazad]

The war in Iraq finished since 9th of April 2003.

 

This was the day that Baghdad fell.

 

It wasn't until April 15th that the "invasion phase" was declared complete.

 

 

 

Nope, the war officially ended on 9th of April 2003. I knew that because I was there and I even went out in the street for exploring.

 

 

 

I went back to school in middle of May 2003 as everything was settled down, and continued my education in the year 2004 until the situations went badly by kidnapping people etc... (trust me, long story and I don't wish to mention every single detail, sorry). That's why my family, including me left the country.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, the invasion was only the beginning of the Iraq War. Some people give the current efforts a different title, like the "Occupation in Iraq", but to the soldiers and civilians there it is still very much a "war". Iraq insurgents kill hundreds of Coalition soldiers through guerilla warfare, and many more citizens. To say that the war is finished would be wrong.

 

 

 

Here is a pretty good summary of the ongoing war in Iraq:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

 

 

 

Summary? I already said I've been there and even during the war. That link contains some true and some false information and I won't tell you about it because it isn't the main idea of the whole topic :P.

 

 

 

Now the war is on terrorists in Iraq.

[Zonorhc]

Ok just to start i have to say

 

Terrorism is the new communism.

 

Thats wrong for a whole load of reasons. it implys that communism was the work of a group of religious zelots and warmongerers, which is quite obviously wrong if you look at communists like che guvera (i know the spelling is wrong)

 

 

 

You obviously missed my point completely. Way to fail at recognising allusion.

 

 

 

Except that you never hear those stories. All that makes the news anymore is how Iraqi citizcens killed 4 people with a carbomb. I don't listen to "harcore anti-war propaganda", I listen to every single thing I can find, and every single dam thing is showing that they hate us, we've helped them enough, they want us to go.

 

 

 

Do you know why the media never reports on the good things the soldiers in there do?

 

 

 

Because of people who would jump at any chance to boycott a network and kill its ratings for being "pro-Bush" or "imperialist".

 

 

 

And obviously, you were not looking hard enough.

[MiyuLynx]

with the way governments act these days, it looks like terrorism is winning anyways.

 

 

 

the world is psychotic, it can't be stopped. just pray you aren't one of the people who get senselessly hurt.

[venomai]

Nope, the war officially ended on 9th of April 2003. I knew that because I was there and I even went out in the street for exploring.

 

Your post contradicts itself. First you say the war ended, and then you say the war is still ongoing.

 

Now the war is on terrorists in Iraq.

 

 

 

The war may have ended for you on the 9th, but for the rest of the world the war in Iraq is still ongoing. Hell, the invasion itself continued right up until the 13th of April, when Tikrit was invaded. The invasion phase wasn't declared officially over until the 15th.

 

I can understand if you feel that the war between the Coalition and the Iraqi Armed Forces is over, but that was only "phase one" of the Iraq War that we are currently seeing.

 

 

 

*sigh* This is getting no where.

 

 

 

If you have sources suggesting that the Iraq War has been OVER and FINISHED since 2003, and that warfare in Iraq stopped after that point, then please show these sources.

 

 

 

PS: Not all Iraqi insurgents are terrorists.