January 8, 200818 yr i'm going to buy a laptop cause i'm doing a gaming course at school and i need a really fast computer thats good on the internet, has a lot of space, is really fast , can have loads of programs going at once and can run really good games like warcraft and those types of things. so if u do know 1 can pls hurry and tell me i only 1 and a half weeks left before school starts. :shock:
January 8, 200818 yr Go in to 10 of your local computer stores, ask them the very same things and then compare them all and make a decision. It will take you a whole day to 2 whole day tops. If you're really clever you can even ring stores up after you compare the prices and go "well this store here will give me x for x amount of dollars less, will you better the offer etc". I got a whole heap of extra crap built in to my computer for lower price, a free keyboard and matching mouse, extra ram, price taken off the dvd burner and everything lol The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours.
January 8, 200818 yr Go in to 10 of your local computer stores, ask them the very same things and then compare them all and make a decision. It will take you a whole day to 2 whole day tops. If you're really clever you can even ring stores up after you compare the prices and go "well this store here will give me x for x amount of dollars less, will you better the offer etc". I got a whole heap of extra crap built in to my computer for lower price, a free keyboard and matching mouse, extra ram, price taken off the dvd burner and everything lol Buying a machine at a local store is not only a waste of money, but a lot of the people they hire there don't know [cabbage] about computers. @ OP: With a $3000 budget you can get a great machine from newegg. THIS looks like a pretty decent choice for a laptop if you really want to get one. However unless you are dead set on a laptop I would personally sugest getting a desktop. For $3000 you can get a top of the line machine.
January 8, 200818 yr Go in to 10 of your local computer stores, ask them the very same things and then compare them all and make a decision. It will take you a whole day to 2 whole day tops. If you're really clever you can even ring stores up after you compare the prices and go "well this store here will give me x for x amount of dollars less, will you better the offer etc". I got a whole heap of extra crap built in to my computer for lower price, a free keyboard and matching mouse, extra ram, price taken off the dvd burner and everything lol Buying a machine at a local store is not only a waste of money, but a lot of the people they hire there don't know [cabbage] about computers. QFT @OP: I'm going to warn you now, gaming laptops have a good risk of over heating. It's difficult to get sufficent cool air to the fan since it's located under the comper. That being said, DO NOT EVEN THINK OF BUYING AN ALIENWARE LAPTOP. They have so many complaints of over heating laptops it's not even funny. Mine? Crashes daily while I'm playing WoW and it's usually at terrible times. Like Nadril said, Newegg is a good site. And as he said, you can get a much better machine if you go with the desktop route. Higher end parts, far less chance of overheating, and so much more you can do with it. Imho, the only thing I like about laptops is that I can easily take them with me when I travel. Internet Marketing For Newbies
January 8, 200818 yr Newegg is a good place for buying complete computers (for those who don't like building their own or don't have the time), but that specific laptop is horrible for $3K. Would consider another option. :shock: My laptop cost some $1000 and it had nearly all the same specifications except a 160GB HD and a 256MB graphics card. Don't get a laptop with "Vista Ultimate" like that laptop. You're paying $500 just to get features which aren't even supposed to be used by a gamer/web surfer like you. Go for WinXP or Vista Basic/Premium for gaming, Linux distros are free and great for everything else.
January 8, 200818 yr Here are my recommendations. Firstly, you my friend do not need to pay $3000 on a laptop. Here in the UK you can get amazing spec laptops for ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã600-800, Thats around $1300. And I completely recommend that you scrap the Windows Vista, and just downgrade to XP, why? Well theres many driver issues with Vista, not to mention games will run slower on Vista than they would on XP. Just shop around, Look for a good spec, if it comes with Vista, tell them you want a downgrade and you will get the laptop for a cheaper price. Like another user said in this thread, A laptop isn't really meant for gaming, It can/will heat up, as you are demanding your system to do more. But gaming on a laptop will still work :) (For FPS you will find you need a mouse) Just make sure you shop around, don't buy at first site :D Happy shopping Stephen Hawking is now a honorary member of the Runecrafting Guild. He was also given a free sex change from the Make-over Mage. off topic but woot im in 2 peoples siggys >.>Make that 3!
January 9, 200818 yr And I completely recommend that you scrap the Windows Vista, and just downgrade to XP, why? Well theres many driver issues with Vista, not to mention games will run slower on Vista than they would on XP. False. Vista's drivers are fine now, and if you are buying a new machine the manufacturer has already made sure you are able to have the correct drivers. Vista is fine now, and I'd recommend it personally. Gaming laptops are around, it's just that they won't be as powerful as a desktop. Anyways I do retract what I said about the newegg laptop, it's pretty poor for its price. However I just remembered that dell, to be honest, has pretty good price gaming laptops. Here is one I built: http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/ ... WM90&s=dhs XPS M1730 SYSTEM COLOR Smoke Grey PROCESSOR IntelÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâî CoreÃÆââââ¬Ã¾Ãââ 2 Duo Processor T7500 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB, 4MB Cache) OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows VistaÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâî Home Premium Edition - English MEMORY 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz HARD DRIVE Speed: 120GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) Free Fall Sensor INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE CD / DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW Drive) VIDEO CARD NVIDIAÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâîGeForceÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâî8700M GT graphics WIRELESS CARDS IntelÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâî PRO/Wireless 3945 a/g Mini Card BATTERY OPTIONS 85 WHr Lithium Ion Battery (9-cell) SOUND OPTIONS High Definition Audio 2.0 Probably one of the best options you'll get for a gaming laptop, although I'd still recommend a desktop.
January 9, 200818 yr Author thanks guys for all the replies. the thing is the the voucher for 3k and it has to be spent all at once.i went to dell and made a computer. here are the details can u tell me if it's good. or follow this link to read a better version of this info (easier to read)http://dellstore03.dell.com.au/public/cart/pb_cart_full_details.jsp?frompage=null&uvst=09487043073396354 Item Description Qty Price Amount (Excl.Gst ) (Excl.Gst ) R540120 - Dell XPS M1530 Notebook 1 2,715.00 2,715.00 Date 09/01/2008 11:31 AM Catalog Number 609575 Base System Intel® Core2 Duo Processor T7800 1 2.6GHz, 4MB Cache, 800 MHz FSB Label (Dual Core & Intel Wireless) Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - with AERO experience System Driver DVD Kit Microsoft® Windows® Software Driver Display 15.4" UltraSharp Widescreen WSXGA+ (1680x1050) TFT Display with TrueLife 1 Optional Color Kits Alpine White LCD display with Integrated 2.0 mega pixel web cam 1 Camera Bezel Camera Software Memory 4GB ( 2 X 2048MB ) 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM 1 Hard Drives 320GB SATA Hard Drive 1 Internal Optical Drive Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Combination Drive with dual layer write capabilities 1 Roxio Creator 9.0 Video Card 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT 1 Audio Solution Integrated Sound Blaster Audigy ADVANCED HD Audio Software 1 Palmrest Option Palmrest with Fingerprint Reader 1 Finger Print Reader Software Wireless Network Card Intel® 4965AGN Wireless-N Mini-Card 1 Bluetooth Module Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Module 1 Limited Time Offer 2 Free Upgrade to 2yrs XPS Premier Service Dell Services: Hardware Maintenance 2-year XPS Premier Service with 1-year CompleteCover 1 2 Years Priority PC User 24x7 Support (Round-The-Clock Technical Assistance) Batteries 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery 1 Carry Case Belkin Sling Bag Fits up to 15.4" Screen (Colour: Black/Red) 1 Shipment Box for Case Power Options 90W AC Adapter 1 For Adapter (Share with Latitude) Keyboard & Mice Targus Retractable Mini Wired Optical Mouse 1 More Accessories Dell Travel Remote Control 1 Noise Isolation Ear Buds Software Microsoft® Works 8.5 (Does Not Include Microsoft® Office 2003/2007 Software) 1 OEM-Word Processor/Spreadsheet/Database/Calendar/Powerpoint viewer/Email Tools Security Software McAfee® Security Center - 15 Months OEM (English) 1 Delivery Requirements Standard Delivery: Delivery 9am-5pm - Monday to Friday (excl. public holidays) Item included in the System 1 ExpressCard Slot, (DOES NOT SUPPORT PCMCIA CARDS) Regulatory Label Google Toolbar Dell Support Shipping Mod with Powercord Vista® HTML Guide Included Dell Support Center 1.0 8-in-1 media card reader Binder Kit Dell Keyboard with Touchpad (English) 1 Integrated 10/100 Fast Ethernet 1 NO 56K MODEM 1 Dell Media Direct 1 Approx. 2.0GB of HDD space will be allocated to Dell Media Direct. Dell PC-Restore Included 1 PC Restore will occupy some HDD capacity. The capacity varies with preloaded material and operating environment. Remark Discount is only valid if the corresponding upgraded item is selected above. 1 Limited time promotional offer only. No further discounts apply 1 Freight Charges Inspiron Handling & Insurance Charges (Australia) 1 AR-DELL SNP (ES) - Vivendi World of Warcraft PC CD ROM Game VUG1127 1 23.00 23.00 Date 09/01/2008 11:31 AM Catalog Number 518870 Additional Dellware Products Blizzard World of Warcraft PC CD ROM Game (VUG1127) 1 3rd Party Manufacturer Warranty Only Total Before Tax 2,738.00 GST - Australia - 10% 273.80 Total Amount AUD 3,011.80 thanks fpr the help so far
January 9, 200818 yr And I completely recommend that you scrap the Windows Vista, and just downgrade to XP, why? Well theres many driver issues with Vista, not to mention games will run slower on Vista than they would on XP. False. Vista's drivers are fine now, and if you are buying a new machine the manufacturer has already made sure you are able to have the correct drivers. Vista is fine now, and I'd recommend it personally. What you said there is partially true, because thats drivers for the items already on the laptop (Screen/Sound etc), however Vista is still poor on drivers for other areas, such as Wireless cards and other external devices... Even if Vista had 100% corrected the problem for drivers, then it still wouldn't work well as a gaming laptop, Games will run better on XP hands down. And for the record, Vista can't even keep there new DirectX10 games running well on the OS. Halo 2 for instance, came out to be DirectX10. A group of people cracked it to work with DirectX9, so it would run on Windows XP, and what do you know, the game was running 3 times faster. Vista is a waste of time, Microsoft released it way to early if you ask me... Stephen Hawking is now a honorary member of the Runecrafting Guild. He was also given a free sex change from the Make-over Mage. off topic but woot im in 2 peoples siggys >.>Make that 3!
January 9, 200818 yr What you said there is partially true, because thats drivers for the items already on the laptop (Screen/Sound etc), however Vista is still poor on drivers for other areas, such as Wireless cards and other external devices... Any device that has come out after Vista has been released has Vista drivers and works perfectly fine. It may work even better on Vista than XP because the drivers are probably updated more frequently (see Creative X-FI). Even if Vista had 100% corrected the problem for drivers, then it still wouldn't work well as a gaming laptop, Games will run better on XP hands down. Incorrect again. Older games that were designed for XP and older operating system may not work with Vista because they were not made for Vista. Any game that comes out now will run perfectly fine on Vista and the game will need Vista for DirectX 10. And for the record, Vista can't even keep there new DirectX10 games running well on the OS. Halo 2 for instance, came out to be DirectX10. A group of people cracked it to work with DirectX9, so it would run on Windows XP, and what do you know, the game was running 3 times faster. Halo2 was not a directX 10 game. It only had an operating system check and would not install if you did not have Vista. It is still using directX9. Vista is a waste of time, Microsoft released it way to early if you ask me... Well if you ask me, you need to stop reading the bandwagon reviews of Vista and try it yourself.
January 9, 200818 yr Hmmmm, For you're information I have Vista installed on 2 of my Computers.... Nice try on trying to win me over with argument... And yeah, sorry about the Halo 2 + Direct X10 section on my behalf, However Halo 2 did still have support for it, For those running it they would find greater perfomance, apperantly.... Either way the game does still run better on XP than it ever did on Vista :) Your argument about any device to come out after Vista I find rather baffling... Why should we need to go buy another Wireless card simply because of a new OS?? Windows is Windows, It's not like swapping over to a completely different kernel like Linux or Mac I have also tested Crysis for game play, and it benchmarked better on a XP than it did with Vista... What happened to your "Any game that comes out now will run perfectly fine on Vista" And Vista doesn't even seem 100% finished, It is great at finding problems with the installation, and brilliantly poor at finding solutions for them :S Just because Vista is new doesn't make it a better OS... Microsoft can't deliver solutions to the many problems people face while using applications such as Firefox. I'm sorry but like, Vista should have got a higher compatibility with software out there before releasing it.... I mean just take a gander at this article... http://apcmag.com/6649/vista_150_problems_0_solutions Like I don't want to argue with you here, so lets leave it at the paragraph I shall be posting below... ____________________________________ Vista is sleek and full of neat features, granted, And for many users it runs fine, thats cool. But not everyone has the same experience as you who get it 100% working (and it's not because we are stupid)... Many people already have a set of tools and apps they want to install, they know how to use them and they know they are good, however not everything is going to run smooth on Vista for everyone. Vista is a double-edged sword. While it may work mighty fine with some functions, It may work might poor with others. Stephen Hawking is now a honorary member of the Runecrafting Guild. He was also given a free sex change from the Make-over Mage. off topic but woot im in 2 peoples siggys >.>Make that 3!
January 9, 200818 yr Well no [cabbage] something is going to run faster on XP, it uses less memory. Most of the time the difference is not even noticable though (5-8 fps maybe with a good rig). You still can't run DX 10 under XP which for a new gaming machine you would want to. Point in case vista is fine to use now if you're buying a new machine and don't do anything stupid like only put a gig of ram in it.
January 14, 200818 yr vista sucks, macbook pro is where its at. GTFO Mac Fanboy. Hahaha, so true, but made me laugh. To quote an "If Operating Systems ran the airlines" post I read a few weeks ago : Mac All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents look and act exactly the same. Every time you ask questions about details, you are gently but firmly told that you don't need to know, don't want to know, and everything will be done for you without your ever having to know, so just shut up.
January 14, 200818 yr vista sucks, macbook pro is where its at. GTFO Mac Fanboy. LMAO very unexpected from Nadril I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter]
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