I got this idea of using Claws of Guthix at Saradomin boss. Before you post, let me make this clear: i want detailed help. I appreciate how someone try to help by saying "That's not good", but i need detailed comments/advice.

 

 

 

Why i wanna do this

 

I like magic, it's good skill to have high level in. I am also challenged. The boss is uses mele armor, and mele armor is usually metal armor that's weak to magic. Even though she uses magic (Magicians are supposed to have resistance to magic), the magical attack is channeled through the Saradomin sword she's wielding and not through her magical level. Anyhow, it's boring to always range or mele a boss, something must be changed! =P~

 

 

 

What are my relevant stats?

 

88 Magic, 99 Defence, 99 HP, 94 Prayer in 203K, and 80 Summon.

 

 

 

Claws of Guthix

 

It hits 20 Damage max, and with "Charge Spell" it will hit 30 Max. The spell requires fire runes, blood runes and air runes, how many is not relevant to if this is can be efficient. The spell also lowers 5% of the monsters def, this is one of reason why i wanna use it. I will be using Void Knight Mace to auto cast it.

 

 

Equipment

 

I will have a gear that gives me 23 prayer bonus, and 50 magical attack bonus and over 180+ Mele defenses.

 

 

 

Tactic

 

Use Charge Spell >Then attack boss, and use a terrorbird as monster. Whenever she's after me, i run like hell and keep great distance at all time. Maybe pray "Mystical Lore": which increases your magic level by 10%.

 

 

 

This method will cost me more than ranging, but despite it i think its worth it. Considering you get magical exp.

 

 

 

My Questions

 

 

 

1: Will i splash alot with 50 magic attack bonus?

 

 

 

2: Is this good idea? If not why is it bad?

 

 

 

3: Ive not used Claws of guthix, but does it do good damage frequently with charged (Someone with good Claw of guthix experienced please answer this=) )

1: Will i splash alot with 50 magic attack bonus? Probably, even graandor is resilient to ancients at max mage bonus.

 

 

 

2: Is this good idea? If not why is it bad? Not good, course the ranged mini can tear you apart.

 

 

 

Although you can run away from melee n protect from mage, but you'll end up healing too much during the boss kill. I know this course I do solo bandos a lot.

 

 

 

Mage is slowest form of attack, also GoW favours Rangers / meleers in general.

 

 

 

3: Ive not used Claws of guthix, but does it do good damage frequently with charged (Someone with good Claw of guthix experienced please answer this=) )

 

 

 

Someone will answer this :roll:

1: Will i splash alot with 50 magic attack bonus? Probably, even graandor is resilient to ancients at max mage bonus.

 

 

 

2: Is this good idea? If not why is it bad? Not good, course the ranged mini can tear you apart.

 

 

 

Although you can run away from melee n protect from mage, but you'll end up healing too much during the boss kill. I know this course I do solo bandos a lot.

 

 

 

Mage is slowest form of attack, also GoW favours Rangers / meleers in general.

 

 

 

3: Ive not used Claws of guthix, but does it do good damage frequently with charged (Someone with good Claw of guthix experienced please answer this=) )

 

 

 

Someone will answer this :roll:

 

 

 

You do realize that i have 99 defence and will have 180+ mele defenses?

1: Will i splash alot with 50 magic attack bonus? Probably, even graandor is resilient to ancients at max mage bonus.

 

 

 

2: Is this good idea? If not why is it bad? Not good, course the ranged mini can tear you apart.

 

 

 

Although you can run away from melee n protect from mage, but you'll end up healing too much during the boss kill. I know this course I do solo bandos a lot.

 

 

 

Mage is slowest form of attack, also GoW favours Rangers / meleers in general.

 

 

 

3: Ive not used Claws of guthix, but does it do good damage frequently with charged (Someone with good Claw of guthix experienced please answer this=) )

 

 

 

Someone will answer this :roll:

 

 

 

You do realize that i have 99 defence and will have 180+ mele defenses?

 

Yes, I usually have 220+ melee (more importantly ranged) defense against graandor, but the ranged mini still hits often.

 

 

 

I'm sure the damage tallies up pretty fast that it'll become dangerous. But hey this has yet to be tested so you should really try it for the heck of it :thumbsup:

Lol i know, and hell no if ima not test it cause of ur "Mini hits hard" even though true. But my defence +high defence usually made me "untouchable" lol.

 

 

 

But i doubt ill have much trouble, but i gotta test it first ;)

 

 

 

As for ranging+ mele, even though you hit alot 20s with diamond e bolt +51 with ruby e...

 

 

 

I'd like to think Claws wud hit 20s easy and that it wud hit well considering zilyanas armoury

Why not just go test it out?

Why not just go test it out?

 

 

 

Let's just say this hypothetically: Would you go to a lvl 1000 Monster without asking or checking for info about what has been revealed about this new "Lvl 1000 monster"?

 

 

 

No u wudnt, ud ask friends on forums or try to find info.

 

 

 

I am asking sara gwd experienced + Claws of guthix spell experienced if this is a good idea to them. I am gonna test it, but i wanna hear some oppions on it

 

 

 

P.S This is "HElp and advice" Forum, so iam sure people would appriaciate you not posting comments like "Why not test it out?"

Maging her sucks don't waste your time

Maging her sucks don't waste your time

 

 

 

Based on what? It's true Ranging or Meleing is better by quite a bit.

 

 

 

But you have yet to proove that Magic can't be decent and i have yet to proove that it can be decent. But saying it stinks, and without going further into why does not make sense.

Maging her sucks don't waste your time

 

 

 

QFT. I tried to solo her in max mage and barrage (ahrims, seers, inf boots, book etc) with 99 mage and it splashes a lot. I guess god spells are a little more accurate than barrage, although you don't get the freeze. You're way better off using melee or range whether solo or team. Feel free to try it out and report back.. but in my experience it fails hard.

Maging her sucks don't waste your time

 

 

 

QFT. I tried to solo her in max mage and barrage (ahrims, seers, inf boots, book etc) with 99 mage and it splashes a lot. I guess god spells are a little more accurate than barrage, although you don't get the freeze. You're way better off using melee or range whether solo or team. Feel free to try it out and report back.. but in my experience it fails hard.

 

 

 

I hope it don't splash to much, and also :

 

 

 

Range and mele=Splashes too...so its not like mage "is only one". You get what i mean by splashes too lol.

 

 

 

Anyhow, the thing is: if it dont splash then it will be good ;)

 

 

 

I hope it don't splash to much, and also :

 

 

 

Range and mele=Splashes too...so its not like mage "is only one". You get what i mean by splashes too lol.

 

 

 

Anyhow, the thing is: if it dont splash then it will be good ;)

 

 

 

Range and melee don't splash, they hit zeroes.. mage hits zeroes and splashes. And in general it has a far higher miss rate than melee/range.

 

 

 

I hope it don't splash to much, and also :

 

 

 

Range and mele=Splashes too...so its not like mage "is only one". You get what i mean by splashes too lol.

 

 

 

Anyhow, the thing is: if it dont splash then it will be good ;)

 

 

 

Range and melee don't splash, they hit zeroes.. mage hits zeroes and splashes. And in general it has a far higher miss rate than melee/range.

 

 

 

I know it splashes and hits 0s. Also i just called it "Splashes" when it came to range and mele. Is that so hard to understand?

 

 

 

Anyhow onto topic: i have yet to see a video where it shows that claws of guthix dont work. But im myself working on getting void mace not far from it either. So ill be testing it soon myself

 

 

 

I know it splashes and hits 0s but i just called it "Splashes" when it came to range and mele. Is that so hard to understand?

 

 

 

 

Yes i dont think you understand me. A melee/range hit has a chance to hit between 1 and your max, and also hit a 0. Mage has a chance to hit between 1 and your max, and also hit a 0, it also has a chance to splash or 'fail'. the 0 hit and splash both have the same net result i.e. you don't do damage. but they're two different possibilities meaning more chance of it happening. This means more casts that do no damage and less overall damage done by the caster.

Actually i do...

nevermind i own

 

Let's just say this hypothetically: Would you go to a lvl 1000 Monster without asking or checking for info about what has been revealed about this new "Lvl 1000 monster"?

 

 

 

 

I have no experience with Claws of Guthix, nor do I have any experiencing using magic in the GWD, but I'd just like to point out that with that attitude, the GWD would have never been touched. Obviously SOMEONE had to go in there and fight Zilyana without any prior knowledge.

 

 

 

My advice to you: test it out, try different inventories and setups. You might lose money, you might die, but as you've said in a previous thread, first hand experience is always the best way to get things done. Paraphrased, of course.

 

Let's just say this hypothetically: Would you go to a lvl 1000 Monster without asking or checking for info about what has been revealed about this new "Lvl 1000 monster"?

 

 

 

 

I have no experience with Claws of Guthix, nor do I have any experiencing using magic in the GWD, but I'd just like to point out that with that attitude, the GWD would have never been touched. Obviously SOMEONE had to go in there and fight Zilyana without any prior knowledge.

 

 

 

My advice to you: test it out, try different inventories and setups. You might lose money, you might die, but as you've said in a previous thread, first hand experience is always the best way to get things done. Paraphrased, of course.

 

 

 

Thanks for that, and i agree. But i for my case would not go to a lvl 1000 monster,unless i really was the nr 1 players there...

 

 

 

If there's info out there: why not take advantage of it :)

She just has really, really high mage defence. It took me around 10 minutes to solo her with barrage.

She just has really, really high mage defence. It took me around 10 minutes to solo her with barrage.

 

 

 

For real? More details about it please :pray: Describe it by giving examples or numbers

Her magic defence is insanely high. Think hitting once every 5-6 times at 99 magic with max magic bonus. You'll be lucky to hit once every 10-15 casts with 88 magic and +50 attack, making it far less damage then range at a huge cost, higher risk, and worse defence bonuses.

Man that sounds bad :?

Man that sounds bad :?

 

Sad but true, its a similar situation at bandos, and (I'd assume) all the other GWD bosses. Jagex realized that magic was overpowered on regular monsters, and would severely off balance high level monsters, who rely on extreme defence rather then hitpoints to be 'tough'. So, they effectively killed off magic as a combat style for bosses, with the notable exception of Rex.

Aren't shadow spells more accurate than ice? It'd lower her attack too...

 

 

 

Might try shadow barrage. Freezing her would be a good idea for an opener.

Aren't shadow spells more accurate than ice? It'd lower her attack too...

 

 

 

Might try shadow barrage. Freezing her would be a good idea for an opener.

 

He's using god spells - anything with ancients would be so inaccurate and expensive that it'd probably cost, rather then earn, money.