Flail Or Axe

[Shizuka1111]

No I dont mean Great axe, i mean Dragon Battle Axe. Im thinking about buying a Veracs Flail,and i want your opinions on the ups and downs of each weapon, My Atk and str are 70 and 63 ( Meh Meh), At those stats, which weapon would you use? Give a reason also please if u can.

[mitochondrion]

uh, neither? you've got seventy attack..

[cnut21]

Personally i would scratch both. Only get Verac flail if you have whole set. I would personally get a Dragon Scim and start training strength asap.

[Shizuka1111]

Why a Dragon Scim?

[cnut21]

Why a Dragon Scim?

 

 

 

Hits fast and is pretty accurate

[RayOxide]

Think of..

 

 

 

D scim - Speed of a whip, accurate like a d long, and hits like a rune Baxe!

 

=D>

[Shizuka1111]

So basically, D Scimmy is a great way to train str?

[Pieterse]

So basically, D Scimmy is a great way to train str?

 

I wouldn't say a great way...

 

but it's your best bet.

[Shizuka1111]

Well,Currently as my sig shows, im workin on 99 wc, after that, il be working with the 170k willows il have to get 99 fm, then il work on str to get it to 70 or such, so, i have a large schedual, but il mark down for the future reference, d scim good training, hmm.. D Scim on experiemnts, Fun.

[ilovecardj]

d scim is junk

 

 

 

If you cant afford a sara sword get zerker necklace with obby sword. much better then dscim

[Troacctid]

Well,Currently as my sig shows, im workin on 99 wc, after that, il be working with the 170k willows il have to get 99 fm, then il work on str to get it to 70 or such, so, i have a large schedual, but il mark down for the future reference, d scim good training, hmm.. D Scim on experiemnts, Fun.

 

Willows are bad for training woodcutting and bad for training firemaking. If you plan on getting both, try teaks. If you burn them on the spot, you'll get both skills to 99 faster than if you chopped willows and burned them later. But I digress. At your stats, the best weapon for you is the abyssal whip--just train controlled with it. But if you must train your strength on its own (which I guess wouldn't be a bad idea, since it's 7 levels lower than your attack) then saradomin sword > obby sword & zerker necklace > d scimmy. However, since your defence is also behind your attack by a similar amount, I don't think you have much to lose by training on controlled, so get a whip.

 

 

 

Verac's Flail and the Dragon Battleaxe are both sub-optimal weapons for training and you should generally not use them. The flail is only good under certain circumstances (mainly enemies with prayer or strong defence that are bad for training anyway) and only with the full set, and I can't really think of anywhere that a dbaxe would be the best or even second- or third-best choice of weapon.

[Shizuka1111]

Yea, i get what your saying, its just, the price of Th eAbby whip kills me, i was never good at getting my Gp up, and i always thought Willows was the best way to get Exp, not money ,but exp, since it was Easy to cut, and good exp timewise

[Troacctid]

Yea, i get what your saying, its just, the price of Th eAbby whip kills me, i was never good at getting my Gp up, and i always thought Willows was the best way to get Exp, not money ,but exp, since it was Easy to cut, and good exp timewise

 

Nope, teaks are far better. They're about 15k exp/hr faster than willows, which is a lot--that's more than 30 hours saved over the 13m exp to 99 woodcutting if you drop your teaks! If you burn your teaks as you chop them, it could be maybe 35-50 hours longer than willows...but that doesn't take into account the extra time you'd spend burning the willow logs, which takes about 115-130 hours for 13m exp. So chopping teaks ends up saving you almost 100 hours of training. You can look in my woodcutting guide if you're interested in other methods of training the skill.

 

 

 

The whip shouldn't be too hard to get. Assuming you play 3 hours a day, you ought to be able to afford it within only 2-4 days.

[Shizuka1111]

I Did read your guide, and it was brilliant, i will certainly use Ape Atoll Teaks when i log on after school. Also, what ways could i get money easily in 2-4 days as u said?

[obfuscator]

yeah i would really reccomend whip or d scim, ss if you can afford:)

[Troacctid]

I Did read your guide, and it was brilliant, i will certainly use Ape Atoll Teaks when i log on after school. Also, what ways could i get money easily in 2-4 days as u said?

 

Well again, assuming you play 3 hours a day, all you need to do is make about 130k gp/hr and you can get a whip in under 10 hours. Making that much should be a cinch for any member. Collecting white berry or snape grass spawns, mining pure essence, making oak planks, tanning green d'hides, killing green dragons, buying water-filled vials from Ardougne or Shilo Village (or other similiarly profitable shop items), and killing cave slimes are all methods that can make more than that with very few requirements, just off the top of my head. But I don't like giving moneymaking advice, because I don't have good numbers for any of the best methods, and I always feel like I'm forgetting something.

[rangeor]

At your stats cave slimes would work well for cash. And don't train on experiments, try to stick with using slayer for training combat. If you really despise slayer then you could train on experiments, there's nothing wrong with that, but if you ever want to slay abyssal demons or spiritual mages it would be practical to use slayer in conjunction with combat.

[ladycai]

Don't buy a flail just to train !! veracs is meant for boss hunting !! T_________T

 

 

 

Battleaxes aren't good for training (p2p wise, anyway). If you're considering that you might as well just get a ddp and dragon scim.

[Skinzo04]

I'd say D scim or whip :?

[Exodus_Flesh]

Just to sum this up quickly..

 

 

 

Barrows weapons blow for training.. Slow, Two handed, and not even very strong.

 

 

 

Use a whip on controlled for affordable, smart, and solid training.

[Vulxai]

A whip is definatley worth the price. One tip, don't blow all of your money just on a whip. It's good, but always leave a decent amount (a decent amount is up to you, on how you play). Until then, I'd suggest a d scimmy for training up until that point. Use the d scimmy and go do some slayer, or make some cash, then buy the whip, and have fun!