Slayer Sucks

[pureprayer]

OH i have, which is why i'm saying that it doesn't give you much money at all, unless you get a unnormal lucky drop. So if you want the money(me, i'm too poor imo to not want the money)

 

 

 

Now, you're correct, but you missed the words.

 

 

 

Yes, you're making money WHILE you're training that skill, but that money does not count as money you are making FROM that skill. See what i'm getting at here? they make money offa herb runs while training slayer, but not from training slayer.

 

 

 

My argument is that it is easy to fund training slayer at maximum efficiency while making a profit. I have explained this countless times now.

 

 

 

Yes, correct, our arguement is that those funds and even those profits, do not originate(actually come from) slaying. PERIOD. you can't argue with that cuz its plain logical fact.

 

 

 

When did I argue that all of the profits come from Slayer? Please find my post. I said, yet again, that it is easy to fund slayer and make a profit while doing a few minutes of nonslayer related work everyday.

 

 

 

EDIT: Alright. Clearly none of you are reading my posts.

 

 

 

Your Argument:

 

Sorry, but that's just not true. I slay at full efficiency. I use piety, a cannon, and a combat familiar at ALL times when possible and applicable. I almost never use a Bunyip. I play 100% attention, and I do all of the little things that add up in the long run, such as picking up drops between hits, and attacking multiple monsters.

 

 

 

I make a very noticeable profit, and I can get a pretty damn good amount of Slayer experience per hour for my levels. I can't imagine what you're doing wrong if you're making such a small profit. Not only do you save TONS of time in which to make more money, but you DO make a lot of cash if you're slaying as fast as you can.

 

 

 

Deux cent quatre-vignt-sept.

 

In your next post you said you did farming/mtk to raise "profits".

 

 

 

Honestly your not profiting with slayer and thats what we are arguing.

[dpattle]

thanx pure :thumbsup:

[Obtaurian]

Wait, wait... where in that post did I state that I am profiting solely from Slayer? I'm sorry, I just can't find it. I have, however, stated many, many times, that it is easy to fund Slayer while making a profit.

 

 

 

So you're arguing against something which was never stated, I'm afraid.

[dpattle]

Wait, wait... where in that post did I state that I am profiting solely from Slayer? I'm sorry, I just can't find it. I have, however, stated many, many times, that it is easy to fund Slayer while making a profit.

 

 

 

So you're arguing against something which was never stated, I'm afraid.

 

 

 

I guess? -.- But tbh, it was atleast implied, and it seemed was the point you were trying to convey. sorry for the flaming, but still. :)

[pureprayer]

Wait, wait... where in that post did I state that I am profiting solely from Slayer? I'm sorry, I just can't find it. I have, however, stated many, many times, that it is easy to fund Slayer while making a profit.

 

 

 

So you're arguing against something which was never stated, I'm afraid.

 

All you said was you piety and do cannon and all that other stuff and profit.

 

 

 

YOU NEVER MENTIONED and other source of income until latter posts.

 

 

 

THEN YOU SAID you profited FROM SLAYER BY DOING OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME. And we said you didn't.

 

 

 

[hide=]amg i traind construktion to 54 wit oak lerders nd den i fundoed it wit avinsie so id mad a profot.

 

 

 

You can EASILY fund ANY SKILL its NOT HARD AT ALL[/hide]

 

[hide=]Where did you state that you were not a man living in a box

 

 

 

You didnt say it but i can assume right?[/hide]

 

 

 

My point is you didnt say you soley profited with slayer and you didnt say you had other sources of income.

[Troacctid]

Wait, wait... where in that post did I state that I am profiting solely from Slayer? I'm sorry, I just can't find it. I have, however, stated many, many times, that it is easy to fund Slayer while making a profit.

 

 

 

So you're arguing against something which was never stated, I'm afraid.

 

What can't you make a profit from if you fund it enough?

[Obtaurian]

Wait, wait... where in that post did I state that I am profiting solely from Slayer? I'm sorry, I just can't find it. I have, however, stated many, many times, that it is easy to fund Slayer while making a profit.

 

 

 

So you're arguing against something which was never stated, I'm afraid.

 

All you said was you piety and do cannon and all that other stuff and profit.

 

 

 

YOU NEVER MENTIONED and other source of income until latter posts.

 

 

 

THEN YOU SAID you profited FROM SLAYER BY DOING OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME. And we said you didn't.

 

 

 

[hide=]amg i traind construktion to 54 wit oak lerders nd den i fundoed it wit avinsie so id mad a profot.

 

 

 

You can EASILY fund ANY SKILL its NOT HARD AT ALL[/hide]

 

[hide=]Where did you state that you were not a man living in a box

 

 

 

You didnt say it but i can assume right?[/hide]

 

 

 

My point is you didnt say you soley profited with slayer and you didnt say you had other sources of income.

 

 

 

My second post explained that I funded my slaying at maximum efficiency by utilizing the near zero work of other sources. I will not repeat what I've said in my past ten posts.

 

 

 

You can not compare hours of killing avianses to fifteen minutes a day farming herbs. Your construction comment is in no way related.

 

 

 

You can assume whatever you want, but when I've specifically stated otherwise, you'll only look the fool.

 

 

 

EDIT: To the post above, that depends on how you're funding it. Are you pouring hours and hours of work into making the money, or are you doing little to no work?

[dpattle]

Wait, wait... where in that post did I state that I am profiting solely from Slayer? I'm sorry, I just can't find it. I have, however, stated many, many times, that it is easy to fund Slayer while making a profit.

 

 

 

So you're arguing against something which was never stated, I'm afraid.

 

What can't you make a profit from if you fund it enough?

 

 

 

yes, from slayer alone, even if you have to use a cannon for some things, you can still make a usual and normal profit from it, not counting the rare "slayer drops."

[pureprayer]

Slayer can be decently profitable using piety and a cannon. Most tasks pay for themselves, and with slayer points and herb runs, the special drops should provide the bulk of the profit.

 

This was your false statement that caused controversy.

 

 

 

Slayer that way is not profitable you have to use other sources of income which you are now just saying.

 

 

 

Let me revise my past statement: lols i mad muney gon 2 54 conztrustion bcus i did herb farmin dint know constrution was profitble.

[Obtaurian]

Slayer can be decently profitable using piety and a cannon. Most tasks pay for themselves, and with slayer points and herb runs, the special drops should provide the bulk of the profit.

 

This was your false statement that caused controversy.

 

 

 

Slayer that way is not profitable you have to use other sources of income which you are now just saying.

 

 

 

Let me revise my past statement: lols i mad muney gon 2 54 conztrustion bcus i did herb farmin dint know constrution was profitble.

 

 

 

LOL at the fact that in the very next SENTENCE I state that I'm including herb runs.

 

 

 

I am not just now saying that I'm utilizing other methods. I stated that in my SECOND post. Please read.

 

 

 

How much work did you put into that herb farming? About five minutes per run, and as many runs as you care to do per day? O lawd dats phr33 munny.

[pureprayer]

Slayer can be decently profitable using piety and a cannon. Most tasks pay for themselves, and with slayer points and herb runs, the special drops should provide the bulk of the profit.

 

This was your false statement that caused controversy.

 

 

 

Slayer that way is not profitable you have to use other sources of income which you are now just saying.

 

 

 

Let me revise my past statement: lols i mad muney gon 2 54 conztrustion bcus i did herb farmin dint know constrution was profitble.

 

 

 

LOL at the fact that in the very next SENTENCE I state that I'm including herb runs.

 

 

 

I am not just now saying that I'm utilizing other methods. I stated that in my SECOND post. Please read.

 

 

 

How much work did you put into that herb farming? About five minutes per run, and as many runs as you care to do per day? O lawd dats phr33 munny.

 

LOL at the fact that in your very first SENTENCE you state that you profit from slayer using piety and a cannon.

 

 

 

That was your second post.

 

 

 

Snapdragon seeds are 39.3k right now. At 6 herbs a seed you make a profit of 10k every seed. So 5 seeds for 50k. Its 50k. For 15 minutes of work its 50k. Now you say omg 50k for 15 minutes of work its free. WELL if you have 85 mining or 94 runecrafting you can make 200k+ every 15 minutes. EVEN if runs take 5 minutes you can still make 66k+ crafting double nats or mining rune.

 

 

 

EVEN IF YOU DONT HAVE THOSE STATS YOU CAN RUN DOUBLE NATS for a lesser profit but still 125k every 15 minutes.

[Obtaurian]

Slayer can be decently profitable using piety and a cannon. Most tasks pay for themselves, and with slayer points and herb runs, the special drops should provide the bulk of the profit.

 

This was your false statement that caused controversy.

 

 

 

Slayer that way is not profitable you have to use other sources of income which you are now just saying.

 

 

 

Let me revise my past statement: lols i mad muney gon 2 54 conztrustion bcus i did herb farmin dint know constrution was profitble.

 

 

 

LOL at the fact that in the very next SENTENCE I state that I'm including herb runs.

 

 

 

I am not just now saying that I'm utilizing other methods. I stated that in my SECOND post. Please read.

 

 

 

How much work did you put into that herb farming? About five minutes per run, and as many runs as you care to do per day? O lawd dats phr33 munny.

 

LOL at the fact that in your very first SENTENCE you state that you profit from slayer using piety and a cannon.

 

 

 

That was your second post.

 

 

 

Snapdragon seeds are 39.3k right now. At 6 herbs a seed you make a profit of 10k every seed. So 5 seeds for 50k. Its 50k. For 15 minutes of work its 50k. Now you say omg 50k for 15 minutes of work its free. WELL if you have 85 mining or 94 runecrafting you can make 200k+ every 15 minutes. EVEN if runs take 5 minutes you can still make 66k+ crafting double nats or mining rune.

 

 

 

EVEN IF YOU DONT HAVE THOSE STATS YOU CAN RUN DOUBLE NATS for a lesser profit but still 125k every 15 minutes.

 

 

 

What's your point? If you can utilize better ways to make money, then go for it! I'm able to fund my slaying at max speed with just herb runs and slayer points.

 

 

 

And you're judging my entire argument by reading one sentence? We have no more to discuss. Obvious troll is obviously trolling.

[compfreak847]

I guess this means I can include my merching profits in my slayer numbers. Wow, I'm making over 800k an hour while slaying! Slayer is obvoiusly the most profitable skill in RS! Sorry I ever disagreed with you!

 

 

 

Oh, and I'm making money from MTK, too! I only got 20k slayer XP (in a little over an hour) but I made over 2m from MTK in the last couple weeks! Thats almost 2m an hour!!! wow, slayer owns!

 

 

 

 

 

:roll:

[Obtaurian]

I guess this means I can include my merching profits in my slayer numbers. Wow, I'm making over 800k an hour while slaying! Slayer is obvoiusly the most profitable skill in RS! Sorry I ever disagreed with you!

 

 

 

Oh, and I'm making money from MTK, too! I only got 20k slayer XP (in a little over an hour) but I made over 2m from MTK in the last couple weeks! Thats almost 2m an hour!!! wow, slayer owns!

 

 

 

 

 

:roll:

 

 

 

Wow, you're the first person to completely and totally understand what I'm trying to say! Congratulations, sir! You win at least three internets!

[compfreak847]

I guess this means I can include my merching profits in my slayer numbers. Wow, I'm making over 800k an hour while slaying! Slayer is obvoiusly the most profitable skill in RS! Sorry I ever disagreed with you!

 

 

 

Oh, and I'm making money from MTK, too! I only got 20k slayer XP (in a little over an hour) but I made over 2m from MTK in the last couple weeks! Thats almost 2m an hour!!! wow, slayer owns!

 

 

 

 

 

:roll:

 

 

 

Wow, you're the first person to completely and totally understand what I'm trying to say! Congratulations, sir! You win at least three internets!

 

Thanks! I hope you this helped you understand that you cannot factor in extra earning rates not associated with a skill and trumpet it as 'profit'.

[Obtaurian]

I guess this means I can include my merching profits in my slayer numbers. Wow, I'm making over 800k an hour while slaying! Slayer is obvoiusly the most profitable skill in RS! Sorry I ever disagreed with you!

 

 

 

Oh, and I'm making money from MTK, too! I only got 20k slayer XP (in a little over an hour) but I made over 2m from MTK in the last couple weeks! Thats almost 2m an hour!!! wow, slayer owns!

 

 

 

 

 

:roll:

 

 

 

Wow, you're the first person to completely and totally understand what I'm trying to say! Congratulations, sir! You win at least three internets!

 

Thanks! I hope you this helped you understand that you cannot factor in extra earning rates not associated with a skill and trumpet it as 'profit'.

 

 

 

Good to know! If I ever plan on doing such a thing, I'll keep your advice in mind.

[compfreak847]

 

 

 

Good to know! If I ever plan on doing such a thing, I'll keep your advice in mind.

 

Good, glad to know you (finally) see the light. Now, as I was saying several pages before, slayer training cannoning every task possible, using piety and a summon etc. etc. actually loses money - and still receives WORSE combat XP then armored zombies. This leads me to believe that it is impossible to cite slayer as the 'best' or indeed, anywhere close to the best, combat training method - despite sweeping statements to the contrary by certain unenlightened folks.

[dpattle]

 

 

 

Good to know! If I ever plan on doing such a thing, I'll keep your advice in mind.

 

Good, glad to know you (finally) see the light. Now, as I was saying several pages before, slayer training cannoning every task possible, using piety and a summon etc. etc. actually loses money - and still receives WORSE combat XP then armored zombies. This leads me to believe that it is impossible to cite slayer as the 'best' or indeed, anywhere close to the best, combat training method - despite sweeping statements to the contrary by certain unenlightened folks.

 

 

 

Well, see, that i believe is mostly point of view. One man's trash is another man's treasure, and vice versa.

 

 

 

IMO, slayer is infact a great skill to train. maybe you're right, it may not be the best, because the exp is split like so and whatnot, instead of just say str training on one thing and whatnot. But the armored zombies seem like a waste to me. They're drops just aren't good enough. Most slayer monsters and assignments have "worth it" drops, and complimentary drops for while you're waiting for those "worth it" drops. lolz. Which brings me to another point, there is noway in hell that these zombies are better than a slayer task of say fire giants(my personal fave). They are just a single level higher, but much better hp, more exp, easily killed tbh, and they slayer exp is pretty awesome too while you're at it. Then drop and money wise...They murder your armored zombies. Yes there are some tasks however that are arguably a waste of slayer time for the profit gained, but then again you never know when that steel will drop that visage or w/e. Its kinda like clues for those tasks, theres a small chance of multimillionarism but its extremely small. Still most likely worth it.

 

 

 

Also, who used a cannon for all their tasks? thats just lame, even if maxing exp and whatnot, because i think i can kill banshees just as fast as the frickin cannon. Of course there are some tasks that can utilize cannons and make them quicker(*cough* black dems *cough*) But overall, slayer by itself, even when you have to use a cannon, is profitable. I even find that i dont lose money when i melee iron drags.(can't melee steels yet so they're permed) and spectres really dont require the whole prayer pot thing. only bring like 2 pots there to get in extra kills sometimes.

 

 

 

Well, thats it, all i have to say. GTG, 2am here atm...else i would say more,night.. lolz

[Obtaurian]

 

 

 

Good to know! If I ever plan on doing such a thing, I'll keep your advice in mind.

 

Good, glad to know you (finally) see the light. Now, as I was saying several pages before, slayer training cannoning every task possible, using piety and a summon etc. etc. actually loses money - and still receives WORSE combat XP then armored zombies. This leads me to believe that it is impossible to cite slayer as the 'best' or indeed, anywhere close to the best, combat training method - despite sweeping statements to the contrary by certain unenlightened folks.

 

 

 

Please point me to the post in which I sweepingly claim Slayer to be superior combat experience and money to armored zombies.

 

 

 

My entire point, by the way, was that it is very easy to fund using piety and a cannon on every applicable task while still coming out ahead. I'm sorry that you fail to understand such a simple concept.

[Troacctid]

Well, see, that i believe is mostly point of view. One man's trash is another man's treasure, and vice versa.

 

 

 

IMO, slayer is infact a great skill to train. maybe you're right, it may not be the best, because the exp is split like so and whatnot, instead of just say str training on one thing and whatnot. But the armored zombies seem like a waste to me. They're drops just aren't good enough. Most slayer monsters and assignments have "worth it" drops, and complimentary drops for while you're waiting for those "worth it" drops. lolz. Which brings me to another point, there is noway in hell that these zombies are better than a slayer task of say fire giants(my personal fave). They are just a single level higher, but much better hp, more exp, easily killed tbh, and they slayer exp is pretty awesome too while you're at it. Then drop and money wise...They murder your armored zombies. Yes there are some tasks however that are arguably a waste of slayer time for the profit gained, but then again you never know when that steel will drop that visage or w/e. Its kinda like clues for those tasks, theres a small chance of multimillionarism but its extremely small. Still most likely worth it.

 

 

 

Also, who used a cannon for all their tasks? thats just lame, even if maxing exp and whatnot, because i think i can kill banshees just as fast as the frickin cannon. Of course there are some tasks that can utilize cannons and make them quicker(*cough* black dems *cough*) But overall, slayer by itself, even when you have to use a cannon, is profitable. I even find that i dont lose money when i melee iron drags.(can't melee steels yet so they're permed) and spectres really dont require the whole prayer pot thing. only bring like 2 pots there to get in extra kills sometimes.

 

 

 

Well, thats it, all i have to say. GTG, 2am here atm...else i would say more,night.. lolz

 

Armored zombies are incredibly fast experience because not only do you get a 20% bonus on offense from salve (e), which is more than your black mask at fire giants, but they're also right next to an altar so you can use piety for free the entire time. There's no way fire giants are faster melee xp, even with a black mask. As for the drops, they drop healthy amounts of runes, noted planks, and noted pure essence, easily enough for 100-200k gp/hr in profit. Not to mention a small handful of charms as well. Because the valuable common drops are stackable and a bunyip provides more than enough healing to never need food, they're ideal for camping as well. The only two flaws I can think of is that they're slow for summoning experience, and you can't use a combat familiar. And for the kind of combat xp you can get there, that's something I'm willing to give up.

 

 

 

Please point me to the post in which I sweepingly claim Slayer to be superior combat experience and money to armored zombies.

 

 

 

My entire point, by the way, was that it is very easy to fund using piety and a cannon on every applicable task while still coming out ahead. I'm sorry that you fail to understand such a simple concept.

 

:wall:

 

 

 

Your "entire point" is completely irrelevant. Of course it's possible to fund cannon and piety use. If it wasn't, nobody would be able to use them. Regardless, it doesn't mean anything to the topic at all. You even agreed with compfreak's point. What are you talking about?

[compfreak847]

 

My entire point, by the way, was that it is very easy to fund using piety and a cannon on every applicable task while still coming out ahead. I'm sorry that you fail to understand such a simple concept.

 

It's all well and good that you can do herb runs or whatever to earn money, but you simply can't factor those in. If you want to, well, I make around 600k from GE merching + 100k from herbs an hour so:

 

 

 

Armored Zombies: 980k profit, 103k XP

 

Slayer: ~50k? profit, 65k XP

 

 

 

We're talking about slayer, not herb farming. Trying to say you 'break even' with slayer just because your earning money some other way is inane.

[Obtaurian]

 

My entire point, by the way, was that it is very easy to fund using piety and a cannon on every applicable task while still coming out ahead. I'm sorry that you fail to understand such a simple concept.

 

It's all well and good that you can do herb runs or whatever to earn money, but you simply can't factor those in. If you want to, well, I make around 600k from GE merching + 100k from herbs an hour so:

 

 

 

Armored Zombies: 980k profit, 103k XP

 

Slayer: ~50k? profit, 65k XP

 

 

 

We're talking about slayer, not herb farming. Trying to say you 'break even' with slayer just because your earning money some other way is inane.

 

 

 

Did you read all of my posts? Honest question. I'm curious, because I've stated three or four times that I was addressing your comment that training slayer at maximum efficiency is a huge loss. I've never once mentioned Armored Zombies except to verbally punch the children who assumed that I was talking about them without reading my posts. Armored Zombies have absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

 

 

Let's recap:

 

 

 

I argue that I can fund my training Slayer at max speed through sentient activities that waste little to no time, such as farming and MTK, and I will still come out ahead, with more money than what I started with.

 

 

 

THAT'S IT! THAT'S THE ARGUMENT! It has nothing to do with Avianses, it has nothing to do with zombies, I did not claim that Slayer was "l0l 934u504k an hour cus i can merch," I simply argued that you were wrong that training Slayer at max speed is a drain.

 

 

 

It's clear that you did not read any of my posts, and it's clear that not one of the kids who attempted to argue with me read any of my posts. It's impossible to argue a point when the opposition ignores your argument in lieu of one that they would prefer to argue, regardless of it's relevance to the discussion. That said, enjoy your inability to comprehend basic English.

[Troacctid]

 

My entire point, by the way, was that it is very easy to fund using piety and a cannon on every applicable task while still coming out ahead. I'm sorry that you fail to understand such a simple concept.

 

It's all well and good that you can do herb runs or whatever to earn money, but you simply can't factor those in. If you want to, well, I make around 600k from GE merching + 100k from herbs an hour so:

 

 

 

Armored Zombies: 980k profit, 103k XP

 

Slayer: ~50k? profit, 65k XP

 

 

 

We're talking about slayer, not herb farming. Trying to say you 'break even' with slayer just because your earning money some other way is inane.

 

 

 

Did you read all of my posts? Honest question. I'm curious, because I've stated three or four times that I was addressing your comment that training slayer at maximum efficiency is a huge loss. I've never once mentioned Armored Zombies except to verbally punch the children who assumed that I was talking about them without reading my posts. Armored Zombies have absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

 

 

Let's recap:

 

 

 

I argue that I can fund my training Slayer at max speed through sentient activities that waste little to no time, such as farming and MTK, and I will still come out ahead, with more money than what I started with.

 

 

 

THAT'S IT! THAT'S THE ARGUMENT! It has nothing to do with Avianses, it has nothing to do with zombies, I did not claim that Slayer was "l0l 934u504k an hour cus i can merch," I simply argued that you were wrong that training Slayer at max speed is a drain.

 

 

 

It's clear that you did not read any of my posts, and it's clear that not one of the kids who attempted to argue with me read any of my posts. It's impossible to argue a point when the opposition ignores your argument in lieu of one that they would prefer to argue, regardless of it's relevance to the discussion. That said, enjoy your inability comprehend basic English.

 

If you're making 950k gp/hr without slayer and 100k gp/hr with slayer, how is it not a drain?

 

 

 

And if it wasn't, what would it matter? The subject of the thread is whether slayer is a worthy training method. If you made 50k gp/hr off slayer, it still wouldn't be a worthy training method, because it would still be slower and less profitable than better methods, which by the way is the reason you're seeing armoured zombies being mentioned, since that's what the thread is about.

 

 

 

I find it ironic that you're talking about irrelevancy when you've already said that you agree with the people you're arguing against on everything but the irrelevant parts.

[compfreak847]

I argue that I can fund my training Slayer at max speed through sentient activities that waste little to no time, such as farming and MTK, and I will still come out ahead, with more money than what I started with.

 

Your argument is getting dumber. What you earn outside of slayer, or indeed if slayer 'loses' or 'gains' money is MEANINGLESS. It's not a 'gain' or 'loss' factor, its a set GP per hour. A side earning method will not alter the methods in ANY way. And for that matter, I can make 950k an hour at Armored Zombies, so slayer REALLY sucks.

[Obtaurian]

I argue that I can fund my training Slayer at max speed through sentient activities that waste little to no time, such as farming and MTK, and I will still come out ahead, with more money than what I started with.

 

Your argument is getting dumber. What you earn outside of slayer, or indeed if slayer 'loses' or 'gains' money is MEANINGLESS. It's not a 'gain' or 'loss' factor, its a set GP per hour. A side earning method will not alter the methods in ANY way. And for that matter, I can make 950k an hour at Armored Zombies, so slayer REALLY sucks.

 

 

 

Still on about the zombies, eh? Well I'm done arguing, in that case. I've proven that I'm able to easily fund Slayer while coming out ahead, so all of this nonsense about things which I've never stated nor implied are getting redundant and tiring. This will be my final post on the matter.

 

 

 

I wanted to apologize for the last sentence in my last post, which was completely uncalled for. No hard feelings, I hope.

 

 

 

EDIT: That last sentence I spoke of is missing a word. How ironic.