Slayer Sucks

[Aeon_]

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Slayer is rubbish combat experience for the time spent on it. I only train it for quests. -.-

[compfreak847]

[la la la]

I was just thinking about how much nicer the game would be without slayer.

 

 

 

However, my urge to keep my skills somewhat even keeps me training it.

[kingdomzero]

how the hell would you get 65k slayer xp/hour....

[nicrune007]

how the hell would you get 65k slayer xp/hour....

 

You don't..... he meant melee xp duh :lol:

 

 

 

Yeah its not the fastest way to train, but it certainly doesn't sucks.

[RayOxide]

WTF is with the 287?

 

Just browsing and wanted to know >_>

[compfreak847]

how the hell would you get 65k slayer xp/hour....

 

You don't..... he meant melee xp duh :lol:

 

 

 

Yeah its not the fastest way to train, but it certainly doesn't sucks.

 

It does :P

 

 

 

65k melee\80k profit vs. 103k melee\190k profit?

 

 

 

From a skill that's supposed to be 'good' from combat training, EW.

[nicrune007]

WTF is with the 287?

 

Just browsing and wanted to know >_>

 

Lrn2readthread :D

 

 

 

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If I wanted to get max total.

 

I would rather train along with slayer, than get maxed then get 99 slayer.

 

but yeah thats a different thing.

 

 

 

 

 

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Also, slayer xp isn't really that slow, I average about 80k not counting iron task, with piety. Thats 80+20+26=126k vs 133k, not that suckish for xp.

 

Also each task is worth 45k in darts slayer reward points. 80kgp seems low.

 

[hide=]-B- Good money

 

-U- Afk/semi-afk

 

 

 

 

Aberrant spectres - Herbs , snap seed

 

 

 

Abyssal demon - Whip, Rmed, Rchain

 

 

 

Black demon - Break even with pots

 

 

 

Black dragon - I kill babies but I kill the green dragons along with it too

 

 

 

Bloodveld - Rune med, bloodrunes, not good loot

 

 

Dagannoth - Circular hides

 

 

 

Dark beast - Deebow and Rchain Rfh

 

 

 

Dust devil - Gl for Dchain, fast task, not so good loots

 

 

 

Fire giant - Rune scimmies, not really good loots

 

 

 

Gargoyle - This task fail I blocked them

 

 

 

Gorak - Uncut emerald and above , fast uncommon task

 

 

 

Greater demon - Rune full helm , not really good loots

 

 

 

Hellhound - lol

 

 

 

Iron dragon - Dlegs , Visage , decent task

 

 

 

Kalphite - Lose money on this, but its worth the afk :D

 

 

 

Mithril Dragon - Visage , Rbaxe , DFH , fast task

 

 

 

Nechryael - Snap seed , rune boots, RFH

 

 

Scabarites - Saca wad? no idea

 

 

 

Skeletal Wyvern - Not sure, chance of visage

 

 

 

Spiritual Mage - Deeboots

 

 

 

Steel dragon - Why do this task :twss:

 

 

Suqah - Yes you lose money on this one, quick and uncommon task tho

 

 

 

Warped terrorbird - no idea

 

 

Waterfiend - I average 300k in loot per task[/hide]

 

 

 

10/17 of the task (which i dont skip/block) gives me good loot( >100k/hr), not including the 45k from slayer darts, I doubt its only 80kgp per hour.

 

If this sucks then meh :|

 

Also why isn't this on debate forum? :?

 

 

 

 

 

287

 

287 <--- for my previous post 8-)

[homowz]

Waterfiend - I average 300k in loot per task

 

how do u get 300k loot on a waterfiends taks? i usualy waste money on the ppots :?

[nicrune007]

Waterfiend - I average 300k in loot per task

 

how do u get 300k loot on a waterfiends taks? i usualy waste money on the ppots :?

 

 

 

Loot... not counting how much i lost from pots etc...

[homowz]

Waterfiend - I average 300k in loot per task

 

how do u get 300k loot on a waterfiends taks? i usualy waste money on the ppots :?

 

 

 

Loot... not counting how much i lost from pots etc...

 

in that case u can remove waterfiends from ur list as 'good money' cuz when u count the ppots also, the money isnt that good

[langer]

You mean when you remove 50k worth of ppots from a 300k loot trip , it becomes not good?

[compfreak847]

Meh, if your making money on waterfiends your not doing it right. Best to do it with piety, maxes around 60k XP per hour not including banking\task time. If you train slayer efficiently, you won't be making much money.

[Maulmachine]

Meh, if your making money on waterfiends your not doing it right. Best to do it with piety, maxes around 60k XP per hour not including banking\task time. If you train slayer efficiently, you won't be making much money.

 

Hey there again, I put numbers on page 25 or so, not doing it again.

 

 

 

I train slayer with super sets and piety. I profit a lot.

[compfreak847]

Meh, if your making money on waterfiends your not doing it right. Best to do it with piety, maxes around 60k XP per hour not including banking\task time. If you train slayer efficiently, you won't be making much money.

 

Hey there again, I put numbers on page 25 or so, not doing it again.

 

 

 

I train slayer with super sets and piety. I profit a lot.

 

Err... I never saw any of your numbers on 25. Perhaps you should repost them. And yes, you can still make a terrible (40-50k) profit with piety, but you need to cannon for full efficiency - and you will not make any significant profit overall.

[DUELMASTER30]

Meh, if your making money on waterfiends your not doing it right. Best to do it with piety, maxes around 60k XP per hour not including banking\task time. If you train slayer efficiently, you won't be making much money.

 

 

 

I had to reply to this. Your arguments make little to no sense. You're saying that you must piety to get full efficiency with slayer, but you said earlier that for zombie monkies all you have to do is to pray melee, while that is not full 'efficiency'. If you piety on zombie monkies which would make sense for you to say, then you are losing much more than 50k/hr.

 

 

 

Oh, and 287

[compfreak847]

 

 

 

I had to reply to this. Your arguments make little to no sense. You're saying that you must piety to get full efficiency with slayer, but you said earlier that for zombie monkies all you have to do is to pray melee, while that is not full 'efficiency'. If you piety on zombie monkies which would make sense for you to say, then you are losing much more than 50k/hr.

 

 

Err.. what? Armored zombies have an altar right next to them, and drop 190k worth of drops per hour.

[pureprayer]

 

 

 

I had to reply to this. Your arguments make little to no sense. You're saying that you must piety to get full efficiency with slayer, but you said earlier that for zombie monkies all you have to do is to pray melee, while that is not full 'efficiency'. If you piety on zombie monkies which would make sense for you to say, then you are losing much more than 50k/hr.

 

 

Err.. what? Armored zombies have an altar right next to them, and drop 190k worth of drops per hour.

 

I think he read op and made his statement on that. It is only like 50k/h praying piety at zombie monkeys though...

[Omg12333]

I don't like slayer combat training because the combat xp/hr isn't constant. I like to be able to calculate the number of hours till I gain a level. On another note, slayer sometimes does keep my mind off how much xp I have left till I level.

[compfreak847]

 

I think he read op and made his statement on that. It is only like 50k/h praying piety at zombie monkeys though...

 

It's roughly 110k XP with a good summon, albeit at a fairly high cost, all mentioned in my first post. I really don't know what on earth he is talking about :?

[pureprayer]

Waterfiend - I average 300k in loot per task

 

how do u get 300k loot on a waterfiends taks? i usualy waste money on the ppots :?

 

At a max of 200 assigned per task making 1.5k cash per waterfiend isn't possible.

[Obtaurian]

Meh, if your making money on waterfiends your not doing it right. Best to do it with piety, maxes around 60k XP per hour not including banking\task time. If you train slayer efficiently, you won't be making much money.

 

Hey there again, I put numbers on page 25 or so, not doing it again.

 

 

 

I train slayer with super sets and piety. I profit a lot.

 

Err... I never saw any of your numbers on 25. Perhaps you should repost them. And yes, you can still make a terrible (40-50k) profit with piety, but you need to cannon for full efficiency - and you will not make any significant profit overall.

 

 

 

Sorry, but that's just not true. I slay at full efficiency. I use piety, a cannon, and a combat familiar at ALL times when possible and applicable. I almost never use a Bunyip. I play 100% attention, and I do all of the little things that add up in the long run, such as picking up drops between hits, and attacking multiple monsters.

 

 

 

I make a very noticeable profit, and I can get a pretty damn good amount of Slayer experience per hour for my levels. I can't imagine what you're doing wrong if you're making such a small profit. Not only do you save TONS of time in which to make more money, but you DO make a lot of cash if you're slaying as fast as you can.

 

 

 

Deux cent quatre-vignt-sept.

[compfreak847]

Meh, if your making money on waterfiends your not doing it right. Best to do it with piety, maxes around 60k XP per hour not including banking\task time. If you train slayer efficiently, you won't be making much money.

 

Hey there again, I put numbers on page 25 or so, not doing it again.

 

 

 

I train slayer with super sets and piety. I profit a lot.

 

Err... I never saw any of your numbers on 25. Perhaps you should repost them. And yes, you can still make a terrible (40-50k) profit with piety, but you need to cannon for full efficiency - and you will not make any significant profit overall.

 

 

 

Sorry, but that's just not true. I slay at full efficiency. I use piety, a cannon, and a combat familiar at ALL times when possible and applicable. I almost never use a Bunyip. I play 100% attention, and I do all of the little things that add up in the long run, such as picking up drops between hits, and attacking multiple monsters.

 

 

 

I make a very noticeable profit, and I can get a pretty damn good amount of Slayer experience per hour for my levels. I can't imagine what you're doing wrong if you're making such a small profit. Not only do you save TONS of time in which to make more money, but you DO make a lot of cash if you're slaying as fast as you can.

 

 

 

Deux cent quatre-vignt-sept.

 

Then go ahead and post some of the numbers you were talking about. I can't do anything about vague generalizations like 'making a lot of cash while slaying as fast as you can'. It sounds like another 1.5k per waterfiend thing to me.

[Obtaurian]

 

Then go ahead and post some of the numbers you were talking about. I can't do anything about vague generalizations like 'making a lot of cash while slaying as fast as you can'. It sounds like another 1.5k per waterfiend thing to me.

 

 

 

If we take a sample size of 100 tasks, here's what I got. I'm rounding all of my numbers down.

 

 

 

100 tasks = 2400 slayer points = 4420000 GP (current death rune price, mid)

 

 

 

That buys about 546 prayer potions(4), which is equal to about five prayer potions per task covered just from slayer points. Keep in mind that tasks such as spectres, dags, and mutated velds, piety becomes a little pointless, as most of the work is being done by the cannon and combat familiar. If we're doing dags in the CT, we can use piety again, and we can also assume a decent profit. Decent as far as Slayer goes.

 

 

 

We also assume that we do frequent snapdragon runs, which I'm sure that you and I both do. Assuming ~6 herbs per patch, we make about 50k per run. I assume that most players get a little more than 6 per patch, on average, but we'll be conservative.

 

 

 

Here's where it can vary greatly from player to player. How often do you do herb runs? I usually do around four a day, on average, so that's about 200k a day for about 15 minutes of work. That pays for roughly 24 prayer potions(4).

 

 

 

So now we're getting closer to paying for a large chunk of our piety costs. Many tasks, such as spectres, nechs, abyssals, dark beasts, CT dags, mutated velds, etc, will pay for the cost of doing that task. In fact, looking through the list, the only tasks that will most certainly make a loss are:

 

 

 

Hellhounds

 

Kalphites

 

Baby black dragons

 

Suqahs

 

Scabarites (debatable, since the task is extremely quick and you waste very little cash for a large amount of crimsons)

 

Waterfiends (very debatable, as the crimsons can be considered part of the profit)

 

Greater Demons

 

Goraks (very fast task, losses will be minimum)

 

Steel dragons (tasks are too slow to be worth the minimal profit)

 

 

 

And... that's it! If you're taking advantage of your block list, you shouldn't be getting hounds, demons, steels, or kalphites.

 

 

 

So that leaves five (or three if you like Summoning) tasks that will put a dent in your profits. If you have 85 mining, you should be making a very tidy profit from Dark Beasts. I haven't included special drops such as whips, dark bows, etc. If you average about one pair of dragon boots per task, mages are profitable.

 

 

 

So as you can see (hopefully, it looks like a mess up there,) Slayer can be decently profitable using piety and a cannon. Most tasks pay for themselves, and with slayer points and herb runs, the special drops should provide the bulk of the profit.

 

 

 

I have yet to mention that using piety and a cannon will allow you to slay at near max speed. More tasks done = more money made.

 

 

 

In the end, like you said in another thread, it comes down to experience. In my experience, Slayer is profitable at max speed.

 

 

 

I suppose I should mention that MTK and Battlestaffs should provide further compensation.

[Troacctid]

We also assume that we do frequent snapdragon runs, which I'm sure that you and I both do. Assuming ~6 herbs per patch, we make about 50k per run. I assume that most players get a little more than 6 per patch, on average, but we'll be conservative.

 

 

 

Here's where it can vary greatly from player to player. How often do you do herb runs? I usually do around four a day, on average, so that's about 200k a day for about 15 minutes of work. That pays for roughly 24 prayer potions(4).

 

Herb farming can't be counted as profits from slayer. That's profit from farming, completely independent from slayer. You can add it to any type of combat training and receive the exact same increase in profit, so it cancels out in the comparison.