bgs or guthan's?

[vb354]

my question is bgs or guthan's i like bgs for looks but i like guthan's for set effecti have to save up for both and i like bgs for high hits but wich one and if so how should i go around making that money?

[RayOxide]

Im sure you'd rather HAVE high hits, instead of GIVING high hits. ;) ;) ;)

 

 

 

everyone knows that whip and .. dfs are alot better than a bgs sorry, and guthans effect helps training.. anything meleewise.

 

Think of guthans as an investment. Using it all then switch whip and dfs if ya have one, then low hp swap to the spear. Easy.

 

 

 

And alot more worth it if you camp at places or slay.

[Vulxai]

Yes, definitely Guthan's over BGS.

[wioneo]

Whip and DFS is better than a bgs for...what? I've always wondered why people made that comparison...

 

 

 

On topic, get guthans. You don't need a bgs.

[hable]

i think Guthan's is not needed with 68 summoning... >.> and like ray said a whip is much better

[Vulxai]

Whip and DFS is better than a bgs for...what? I've always wondered why people made that comparison...

 

 

 

On topic, get guthans. You don't need a bgs.

 

 

 

Whip and DFS are better than BGS for training, that I know, but I'm not sure about monster hunting or whatever it's used for.

[michel555555]

guthans definatly unles u got to gwd or bosses alot then bgs

[wioneo]

Whip and DFS is better than a bgs for...what? I've always wondered why people made that comparison...

 

 

 

On topic, get guthans. You don't need a bgs.

 

 

 

Whip and DFS are better than BGS for training, that I know, but I'm not sure about monster hunting or whatever it's used for.

 

 

 

Yet a whip and defender are better than a whip and dfs, so that's a useless connection.

[Vulxai]

Whip and DFS is better than a bgs for...what? I've always wondered why people made that comparison...

 

 

 

On topic, get guthans. You don't need a bgs.

 

 

 

Whip and DFS are better than BGS for training, that I know, but I'm not sure about monster hunting or whatever it's used for.

 

 

 

Yet a whip and defender are better than a whip and dfs, so that's a useless connection.

 

 

 

That's for higher hits. A whip + defender is when you don't need the extra defense, a whip + DFS is for strength plus the defense bonus.

[wioneo]

Whip and DFS is better than a bgs for...what? I've always wondered why people made that comparison...

 

 

 

On topic, get guthans. You don't need a bgs.

 

 

 

Whip and DFS are better than BGS for training, that I know, but I'm not sure about monster hunting or whatever it's used for.

 

 

 

Yet a whip and defender are better than a whip and dfs, so that's a useless connection.

 

 

 

That's for higher hits. A whip + defender is when you don't need the extra defense, a whip + DFS is for strength plus the defense bonus.

 

 

 

20 accuracy has a lot more of an impact than 2 strength. I doubt that that will even increase your max in most cases. And training monsters are generally weaker in regard to their offense, so extra defense usually isn't needed.

[RayOxide]

If DFS wasnt the best shield in game it wouldnt be that price.

 

 

 

Everyone knows its hawt, sexy, wicked-[wagon]-pwnage.

 

 

 

EDIT: Lol training monsters. this is http://forum.tip.it. Its called slayer here, m8m8 #-o

[Vulxai]

Whip and DFS is better than a bgs for...what? I've always wondered why people made that comparison...

 

 

 

On topic, get guthans. You don't need a bgs.

 

 

 

Whip and DFS are better than BGS for training, that I know, but I'm not sure about monster hunting or whatever it's used for.

 

 

 

Yet a whip and defender are better than a whip and dfs, so that's a useless connection.

 

 

 

That's for higher hits. A whip + defender is when you don't need the extra defense, a whip + DFS is for strength plus the defense bonus.

 

 

 

20 accuracy has a lot more of an impact than 2 strength. I doubt that that will even increase your max in most cases. And training monsters are generally weaker in regard to their offense, so extra defense usually isn't needed.

 

 

 

Ok, I misspoke, Whip + Defender is for training with weak monsters. Whip + DFS is better for fighting stronger monsters.

[michel555555]

technically elysian or however u spell it is the best shield now

 

 

 

but people around here are touchy about their defenders

[Inuashakent]

There is only 1 Slayer task that a DFS>Rune defender (non-dragon). You don't need defense, if you do, bring extra food + Guthans. It's 19 Slash, not 20 Slash; you're thinking about Stab.

 

 

 

Anyways, guthans has a huge use even with 68 Summoning. You should ALWAYS try to use combat fmailiars when possible. For me, I can do a whole Slayer task without Guthans/healing familiars...

 

 

 

So get Guthans, or none.

 

 

 

Ok, I misspoke, Whip + Defender is for training with weak monsters. Whip + DFS is better for fighting stronger monsters.

 

Strong monsters = A GS, except for a few rare exceptions...

 

 

 

technically elysian or however u spell it is the best shield now

 

 

 

but people around here are touchy about their defenders

 

What...? No...

[RayOxide]

God damn it kent -.-

 

Defender is sorta.. lame in comparison to dfs. :wall:

[Inuashakent]

God damn it kent -.-

 

Defender is sorta.. lame in comparison to dfs. :wall:

 

Elaborate why.

[Vulxai]

God damn it kent -.-

 

Defender is sorta.. lame in comparison to dfs. :wall:

 

Elaborate why.

 

 

 

It's for the people who want defense. You're out a shield if you're using an AGS. I'm perfectly fine using a whip as a weapon, it's got good enough strength for me, and with the DFS (which I personally don't own), you get that same whip strength plus a nice defense bonus.

[Inuashakent]

False.

 

 

 

19 Slash will increase your slaying speeds more than the 2 Str bonuses. And where do you really need defense bonus now? It's all about GS's and Whips+R defender. (Well, obviously theres a few exceptions...) But for training purposes, the R defender is irriplacable.

[Vulxai]

False.

 

 

 

19 Slash will increase your slaying speeds more than the 2 Str bonuses. And where do you really need defense bonus now? It's all about GS's and Whips+R defender. (Well, obviously theres a few exceptions...) But for training purposes, the R defender is irriplacable.

 

 

 

So defense doesn't matter to you? What about when you're fighting monsters that are strong enough to deal damage to you, but not bosses? You're going to take a defender and have to bank often? Or take a DFS and last longer?

 

 

 

EDIT: Kent, I'm obviously not talking about you personally, not all of us have near maxed out melee stats. Don't think about yourself, think about the majority of RS.

[Inuashakent]

False.

 

 

 

19 Slash will increase your slaying speeds more than the 2 Str bonuses. And where do you really need defense bonus now? It's all about GS's and Whips+R defender. (Well, obviously theres a few exceptions...) But for training purposes, the R defender is irriplacable.

 

 

 

So defense doesn't matter to you? What about when you're fighting monsters that are strong enough to deal damage to you, but not bosses? You're going to take a defender and have to bank often? Or take a DFS and last longer?

 

 

 

EDIT: Kent, I'm obviously not talking about you personally, not all of us have near maxed out melee stats. Don't think about yourself, think about the majority of RS.

 

The majority of Runescape can't afford a DFS. :lol:

 

 

 

When you're fighting bosses, you usually bring a Godsword. (Only exception is Armadyl and Dk.)

[Vulxai]

False.

 

 

 

19 Slash will increase your slaying speeds more than the 2 Str bonuses. And where do you really need defense bonus now? It's all about GS's and Whips+R defender. (Well, obviously theres a few exceptions...) But for training purposes, the R defender is irriplacable.

 

 

 

So defense doesn't matter to you? What about when you're fighting monsters that are strong enough to deal damage to you, but not bosses? You're going to take a defender and have to bank often? Or take a DFS and last longer?

 

 

 

EDIT: Kent, I'm obviously not talking about you personally, not all of us have near maxed out melee stats. Don't think about yourself, think about the majority of RS.

 

The majority of Runescape can't afford a DFS. :lol:

 

 

 

When you're fighting bosses, you usually bring a Godsword. (Only exception is Armadyl and Dk.)

 

 

 

Yeah, but the majority of RS can make the money if they wanted to. Look at his levels, low 70's, when he gets them up to 75+, still at that level defense is pretty valuable. And look at my words when i say "when you're NOT fighting bosses". Just because they're not bosses, doesn't mean they're not stronger than you. And in those cases (which aren't really that rare), DFS is better than the defender.

[Inuashakent]

Woah, woah, woah. I was starting to take your point of view, until you blantly said "DFS is better than the R defender."

 

 

 

When you're not fighting bosses, you should be using a Rune defender. Wear barrows, buy Guthans, and start slaying. Yes, it's better.

[Vulxai]

Woah, woah, woah. I was starting to take your point of view, until you blantly said "DFS is better than the R defender."

 

 

 

When you're not fighting bosses, you should be using a Rune defender. Wear barrows, buy Guthans, and start slaying. Yes, it's better.

 

 

 

You're right, that was wrong of me to say "DFS is better than the defender", I admit that, that's a personal opinion. But it is my opinion. Unless I'm fighting monsters with a relatively weak defense, I'll be using a shield.

[Skinzo04]

Guthans over BGS any day. Unless you have maxed stats or the cash for both.

[swordfight]

I would say buy Guthans, Then use the guthans at Dks and make enough money for BGS and you will have both :thumbsup: