The Ancient Warriors Origins

[Obtaurian]

Yeah, I think that zuriel might be zamorakian and managed to steal the ability to cst these spells, however this is largely speculation.

 

 

 

Probably just did Desert Treasure. Duh. :D

 

 

 

 

 

Where is zuriel mentioned in desert treasure?

 

 

 

Get it? Zuriel did Desert Treasure to get Ancient Magicks! Just like the rest of us!

 

 

 

I lol'd.

[Maulmachine]

Yeah, I think that zuriel might be zamorakian and managed to steal the ability to cst these spells, however this is largely speculation.

 

 

 

Probably just did Desert Treasure. Duh. :D

 

 

 

 

 

Where is zuriel mentioned in desert treasure?

 

 

 

Get it? Zuriel did Desert Treasure to get Ancient Magicks! Just like the rest of us!

 

 

 

I lol'd.

 

 

 

:wall: #-o :wall: #-o :lol: :wall:

 

 

 

I sonehow doubt it.

[JoeDaStudd]

It have nothing to do with barrows the fall of the six, doesn't mention any names only that they are to serve another God after there death.

 

 

 

Interesting none the less.

[Maulmachine]

It doesn't have anything to do with barrows and the fall of the six brothers. The knowledge base doesn't mention any names. It mentions ,however, that they are to serve another God after there death.

 

 

 

Interesting nonetheless.

 

 

 

 

 

dude, first of all I'm gonna correct your grammar, really, that was painful to read :-#

 

 

 

I'm still not quite sure what you mean, do you have proof that zamorak didn't have his own troops that rivaled the brothers? You only know that the brothers felt weak going into battle, karil himself was missing shots with his bow, is this proof that the 4 warriors weren't there? No.

[magzar]

It doesn't have anything to do with barrows and the fall of the six brothers. The knowledge base doesn't mention any names. It mentions ,however, that they are to serve another God after there death.

 

 

 

Interesting nonetheless.

 

 

 

 

 

dude, first of all I'm gonna correct your grammar, really, that was painful to read :-#

 

 

 

I'm still not quite sure what you mean, do you have proof that zamorak didn't have his own troops that rivaled the brothers? You only know that the brothers felt weak going into battle, karil himself was missing shots with his bow, is this proof that the 4 warriors weren't there? No.

 

 

 

you missed one

 

their not there

 

 

 

anyway

 

i think if there were warriors strong enough to rival the brothers they would have had to have been included in the original story

 

i mean the brothers still won even though they were killer

 

and what happened to the brothers was the man said something to them to destroy their confidence

 

it's possible he took away the blessings their armor gave them as well or cursed them, but it wouldn't seem to have any relation to the new ancient warriors

 

 

 

and it would seem that they are much older considering the rate at which their armor degrades

 

i mean third age is supposed to be older than the god wars and it doesn't degrade

 

 

 

possibly 1st or 2nd age even? i wouldn't rule it out

[3hitm4g3u]

It doesn't have anything to do with barrows and the fall of the six brothers. The knowledge base doesn't mention any names. It mentions ,however, that they are to serve another God after there death.

 

 

 

Interesting nonetheless.

 

 

 

 

 

dude, first of all I'm gonna correct your grammar, really, that was painful to read :-#

 

 

 

I'm still not quite sure what you mean, do you have proof that zamorak didn't have his own troops that rivaled the brothers? You only know that the brothers felt weak going into battle, karil himself was missing shots with his bow, is this proof that the 4 warriors weren't there? No.

 

 

 

you missed one

 

their not there

 

 

 

 

That's spelling, not grammar.

 

 

 

And it is very possible for these warriors to be zamorakian. And since they would have once followed zaros the fact that one of them has ancients is irrelevant.

[Hantoumei]

:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

[Maulmachine]

:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

 

 

 

this may be true, cna anyone substantiate this claim?

[Nurse_Renard]

I'd say they were going to be the barrow bro's, but on the way to the interview, they were ambushed and killed by the current barrow brothers, and their equipment hidden in player's super secret pockets, which jagex finally decided to let people know about in the PVP world updates. ;)

[Hantoumei]

:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

 

 

 

this may be true, cna anyone substantiate this claim?

 

Weeeell, i can't back it up per say..., but i can use logic. For the without runes bit, i remember seeing that (probably in a postbag, or a god letters) "magic runs through their veins" referring to the mahjarrat. As for every mahjarrat using ancients, well, there were only about 100 or so mahjarrat that came to Runescape, so either they were the cream of the crop and could wtfpwn nearly every human which would prove ancients as being powerful (though, if a mere human could master it, i kinda doubt it's that special to a mahjarrat), or every mahjarrat can use ancients in some form which would explain why a human could learn it.

 

Urgh, long run on sentence.

[magzar]

It doesn't have anything to do with barrows and the fall of the six brothers. The knowledge base doesn't mention any names. It mentions ,however, that they are to serve another God after there death.

 

 

 

Interesting nonetheless.

 

 

 

 

 

dude, first of all I'm gonna correct your grammar, really, that was painful to read :-#

 

 

 

I'm still not quite sure what you mean, do you have proof that zamorak didn't have his own troops that rivaled the brothers? You only know that the brothers felt weak going into battle, karil himself was missing shots with his bow, is this proof that the 4 warriors weren't there? No.

 

 

 

you missed one

 

their not there

 

 

 

 

That's spelling, not grammar.

 

 

 

And it is very possible for these warriors to be zamorakian. And since they would have once followed zaros the fact that one of them has ancients is irrelevant.

 

 

 

no....it's not spelling

 

it's called an improper article

 

that's grammar my friend

[Maulmachine]

:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

 

 

 

this may be true, cna anyone substantiate this claim?

 

Weeeell, i can't back it up per say..., but i can use logic. For the without runes bit, i remember seeing that (probably in a postbag, or a god letters) "magic runs through their veins" referring to the mahjarrat. As for every mahjarrat using ancients, well, there were only about 100 or so mahjarrat that came to Runescape, so either they were the cream of the crop and could wtfpwn nearly every human which would prove ancients as being powerful (though, if a mere human could master it, i kinda doubt it's that special to a mahjarrat), or every mahjarrat can use ancients in some form which would explain why a human could learn it.

 

Urgh, long run on sentence.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, "magic running through their veins" could just mean they were very adept at mastering it with more basic runes.

[Hippodo]

:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

 

 

 

this may be true, cna anyone substantiate this claim?

 

Weeeell, i can't back it up per say..., but i can use logic. For the without runes bit, i remember seeing that (probably in a postbag, or a god letters) "magic runs through their veins" referring to the mahjarrat. As for every mahjarrat using ancients, well, there were only about 100 or so mahjarrat that came to Runescape, so either they were the cream of the crop and could wtfpwn nearly every human which would prove ancients as being powerful (though, if a mere human could master it, i kinda doubt it's that special to a mahjarrat), or every mahjarrat can use ancients in some form which would explain why a human could learn it.

 

Urgh, long run on sentence.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, "magic running through their veins" could just mean they were very adept at mastering it with more basic runes.

 

Well I don't have the facts to prove it right now, but take it from me, the Mahjarrat can perform Magic without needing runes. I'm sure I read it in various tomes as well as seeing it ingame, and besides that it is also stated on the Runescape Wiki. (Which counts as about 99% proof)

 

 

 

As far as I know every Mahjarrat can use Magic without the aid of runes, they used Ancient Magicks (they probably were the first to use it), and they were the only ones to use it in Zaros's armies. It could of course be possible that they teached the Magicks to other, including human, mages, who followed Zaros, but there has been no proof found about that.

[joke33]

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:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

 

 

 

this may be true, cna anyone substantiate this claim?

 

Weeeell, i can't back it up per say..., but i can use logic. For the without runes bit, i remember seeing that (probably in a postbag, or a god letters) "magic runs through their veins" referring to the mahjarrat. As for every mahjarrat using ancients, well, there were only about 100 or so mahjarrat that came to Runescape, so either they were the cream of the crop and could wtfpwn nearly every human which would prove ancients as being powerful (though, if a mere human could master it, i kinda doubt it's that special to a mahjarrat), or every mahjarrat can use ancients in some form which would explain why a human could learn it.

 

Urgh, long run on sentence.

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Well, "magic running through their veins" could just mean they were very adept at mastering it with more basic runes.

 

Well I don't have the facts to prove it right now, but take it from me, the Mahjarrat can perform Magic without needing runes. I'm sure I read it in various tomes as well as seeing it ingame, and besides that it is also stated on the Runescape Wiki. (Which counts as about 99% proof)

 

 

 

As far as I know every Mahjarrat can use Magic without the aid of runes, they used Ancient Magicks (they probably were the first to use it), and they were the only ones to use it in Zaros's armies. It could of course be possible that they teached the Magicks to other, including human, mages, who followed Zaros, but there has been no proof found about that.

 

No proof until... Now? Guess who teaches you Ancients in the end of Desert treasure? Azzandra (not sure about spelling) is a Mahjarrat, and it teaches you the spells for saving it/helping Zaros...

[pulli23]

:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

 

 

 

this may be true, cna anyone substantiate this claim?

 

Weeeell, i can't back it up per say..., but i can use logic. For the without runes bit, i remember seeing that (probably in a postbag, or a god letters) "magic runs through their veins" referring to the mahjarrat. As for every mahjarrat using ancients, well, there were only about 100 or so mahjarrat that came to Runescape, so either they were the cream of the crop and could wtfpwn nearly every human which would prove ancients as being powerful (though, if a mere human could master it, i kinda doubt it's that special to a mahjarrat), or every mahjarrat can use ancients in some form which would explain why a human could learn it.

 

Urgh, long run on sentence.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, "magic running through their veins" could just mean they were very adept at mastering it with more basic runes.

 

Well I don't have the facts to prove it right now, but take it from me, the Mahjarrat can perform Magic without needing runes. I'm sure I read it in various tomes as well as seeing it ingame, and besides that it is also stated on the Runescape Wiki. (Which counts as about 99% proof)

 

 

 

As far as I know every Mahjarrat can use Magic without the aid of runes, they used Ancient Magicks (they probably were the first to use it), and they were the only ones to use it in Zaros's armies. It could of course be possible that they teached the Magicks to other, including human, mages, who followed Zaros, but there has been no proof found about that.

 

 

 

ROFL: since when has wiki's been counting as "proof"? WIKI's are almost the opposite of "proof": they're only good at giving you hints so you start looking into the right direction. But as it's user inputted you can and should never trust a wiki for being the truth!

[Hippodo]

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:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

 

 

 

this may be true, cna anyone substantiate this claim?

 

Weeeell, i can't back it up per say..., but i can use logic. For the without runes bit, i remember seeing that (probably in a postbag, or a god letters) "magic runs through their veins" referring to the mahjarrat. As for every mahjarrat using ancients, well, there were only about 100 or so mahjarrat that came to Runescape, so either they were the cream of the crop and could wtfpwn nearly every human which would prove ancients as being powerful (though, if a mere human could master it, i kinda doubt it's that special to a mahjarrat), or every mahjarrat can use ancients in some form which would explain why a human could learn it.

 

Urgh, long run on sentence.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, "magic running through their veins" could just mean they were very adept at mastering it with more basic runes.

 

Well I don't have the facts to prove it right now, but take it from me, the Mahjarrat can perform Magic without needing runes. I'm sure I read it in various tomes as well as seeing it ingame, and besides that it is also stated on the Runescape Wiki. (Which counts as about 99% proof)

 

 

 

As far as I know every Mahjarrat can use Magic without the aid of runes, they used Ancient Magicks (they probably were the first to use it), and they were the only ones to use it in Zaros's armies. It could of course be possible that they teached the Magicks to other, including human, mages, who followed Zaros, but there has been no proof found about that.

 

 

 

ROFL: since when has wiki's been counting as "proof"? WIKI's are almost the opposite of "proof": they're only good at giving you hints so you start looking into the right direction. But as it's user inputted you can and should never trust a wiki for being the truth!

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@Joke: You are right, but I was talking about the followers of Zaros in the Third Age. As far as I know there has been no proof of anyone else than Mahjarrat casting Ancient Magicks during the God Wars right? We know humans can learn it, so it's not impossible that some did, but... no proof.

 

 

 

@Pulli: I agree with you partially, as wiki's are indeed user imputted and can therefore never be taken for truth blindly. BUT, there are a lot of wonderful people down there who (besides me) never stop checking everything the wiki contains, correcting if false, placing if new, and deleting the childish assaults. That's why I said you could count information derived from the RS Wiki as '99% proof', as there is a next to none chance that it is false. Besides, there are other people in this discussion who said they remembered the same thing, and that it was mentioned in a God Letter or something.

[Maulmachine]

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:-k Hmm, i thought that Ancient Magiks was just used by mahjarrat in general, not by the Zarosian forces. I just figured the way that they were different from a human in using it was that they didn't need runes for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this may be true, cna anyone substantiate this claim?

 

 

 

Weeeell, i can't back it up per say..., but i can use logic. For the without runes bit, i remember seeing that (probably in a postbag, or a god letters) "magic runs through their veins" referring to the mahjarrat. As for every mahjarrat using ancients, well, there were only about 100 or so mahjarrat that came to Runescape, so either they were the cream of the crop and could wtfpwn nearly every human which would prove ancients as being powerful (though, if a mere human could master it, i kinda doubt it's that special to a mahjarrat), or every mahjarrat can use ancients in some form which would explain why a human could learn it.

 

 

 

Urgh, long run on sentence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, "magic running through their veins" could just mean they were very adept at mastering it with more basic runes.

 

 

 

Well I don't have the facts to prove it right now, but take it from me, the Mahjarrat can perform Magic without needing runes. I'm sure I read it in various tomes as well as seeing it ingame, and besides that it is also stated on the Runescape Wiki. (Which counts as about 99% proof)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as I know every Mahjarrat can use Magic without the aid of runes, they used Ancient Magicks (they probably were the first to use it), and they were the only ones to use it in Zaros's armies. It could of course be possible that they teached the Magicks to other, including human, mages, who followed Zaros, but there has been no proof found about that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ROFL: since when has wiki's been counting as "proof"? WIKI's are almost the opposite of "proof": they're only good at giving you hints so you start looking into the right direction. But as it's user inputted you can and should never trust a wiki for being the truth!

[/hide]

 

 

 

@Joke: You are right, but I was talking about the followers of Zaros in the Third Age. As far as I know there has been no proof of anyone else than Mahjarrat casting Ancient Magicks during the God Wars right? We know humans can learn it, so it's not impossible that some did, but... no proof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Pulli: I agree with you partially, as wiki's are indeed user imputted and can therefore never be taken for truth blindly. BUT, there are a lot of wonderful people down there who (besides me) never stop checking everything the wiki contains, correcting if false, placing if new, and deleting the childish assaults. That's why I said you could count information derived from the RS Wiki as '99% proof', as there is a next to none chance that it is false. Besides, there are other people in this discussion who said they remembered the same thing, and that it was mentioned in a God Letter or something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where on the wiki does it say this?

[Hippodo]

Where on the wiki does it say this?

 

 

 

Where does it say what exactly? Could you please form one or more specific questions, that way I can answer them more effectively. Thanks in advance :

[Maulmachine]

 

Where on the wiki does it say this?

 

 

 

Where does it say what exactly? Could you please form one or more specific questions, that way I can answer them more effectively. Thanks in advance :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Could you read the quotes please? :lol: it states in there that someone said that on the rs wiki saysthat mahjarrat don't need runes to cast spells.

[Hippodo]

 

 

Where on the wiki does it say this?

 

 

 

Where does it say what exactly? Could you please form one or more specific questions, that way I can answer them more effectively. Thanks in advance :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Could you read the quotes please? :lol: it states in there that someone said that on the rs wiki saysthat mahjarrat don't need runes to cast spells.

 

 

 

Oh that! Yeah sorry, it's late here and there were some other things mentioned in the quotes, but alright:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Abilities

 

 

 

Magically, the Mahjarrat are second to none, and can use magic without the assistance of runestones. Not all use magic primarily, but with training they are nearly unstoppable. For instance, some can cast spells that prevent the victim from aging, but at the cost of making them nearly entirely immobile. They use this to their advantage, torturing and starving ther victims for hundreds to thousands of years. They are also capable of preventing wounds from healing, inflicting pain with their minds, raising the dead, and placing themselves in a sleep that, in time, can heal even the most severe of wounds. Records also tell of single Mahjarrat darkening the skies with living blood and clouds that take on dangerous forms and block the sky. Those particularly skilled are known even to possess the ability to hide Godly energy from detection and traverse the Realm of Dreams. They are also some of the original users of Ancient Magicks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is said at the 'Mahjarrat' page