Lets_3ekout Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I was relatively sure you could GS the KBD with anti fires and mage protect, but can you? I looked at Tip.It's KBD guide and seems to be clearly stated that bringing a 2h melee weapon will result in your death. My stats are more then enough for kbd so taking a hit a tiny bit larger then normal is bearable. A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamReaper Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I'm about 80% sure it is possible, but not practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 To anyone wondering the same as me, I just tried it after watching some vids and with piety and a super set I soloed my first one with 2 sharks, BGS spec hit 34. It's very possible, very easy :lol: A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intervention Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 i tired with 84 att 84 str 86 def and i found whip to be 20 times better but at your stats it would be more challanging but very doable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 It's just not practical because it can hit 40+ even with mage protect which is rumored not to help and the antifire pot. So stick with DFS or anti fire shield. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 It's just not practical because it can hit 40+ even with mage protect which is rumored not to help and the antifire pot. So stick with DFS or anti fire shield. Well I've killed around 10 KBD's so far using this method, so I'll clear up what seems to be a rather large misunderstanding. Protect from mage works here, used with an anti fire, you do just fine. I think I know why people would think otherwise - Mithril dragons hit heavily through this same combo (thus why using veracs there has never really caught on), while standard dragon breath get stopped completely. It seems KBD is somewhere between, but closer to standard dragon protection. I don't take particular notice to the hits I take unless they're large, but I don't recall any 20+ firebreath hits, the melee hits don't high high very much at all (at least not on verac armour and 90 defence). However I saw a video of someone being hit 44-33 because he forgot his mage prayer so perhaps that's where the rumor originates from. I estime a max hit of 16-18 from firebreath - a negligible difference from the max's i'm hearing about when an anti shield is used (~10) In any case, I can kill 5-6 KBD's with GS soloing in one trip, using a tortoise summon & 3 prayer potions. I recall only being able to kill 1 with whip, but my stats were much lower back when I whipped there so it's an unfair comparison, admittedly. Thanks for posting all, this seems quite a fun thing to do when I'm bored of training :lol: A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 In any case, I can kill 5-6 KBD's with GS soloing in one trip, using a tortoise summon & 3 prayer potions. I recall only being able to kill 1 with whip, but my stats were much lower back when I whipped there so it's an unfair comparison, admittedly. I can kill 4 with a whip and a tortoise with my stats. A godsword is much more fun though, hitting 40+'s : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 When I have maxed melee stats, how many kills do you think id get with: slayer helm (on task of course) fury Bandos/chest tassets Barrows gloves Trimmed cape D boots Sara godsword or ags wealth or zerker Piety and lava titan for tele/combat? praying mage with antifire pot Im thinking of getting a kbd head, and was wondering how practical this would be. Titan would be for fast trips, or else I could use bob/unicorn but I think id probly get more kills per hour with lava titan? Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I thought only 1 of its breaths were reduced by the antifire? Or... stopped completely with a combo of pot + shield. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 For future referrence, magic protection prayer only effects leather dragons'(including brutal and the king) breath. Bronze through mithril dragon fire is not effected at all, and I think that the use of magic protection while veracing is to avoid the magic attacks constantly hitting because you have a pathetically horrible magic defense. Also, you can *definately* get more kills per trip with a whip+dds(I've heard that a d long on stab is actually better than a whip for the KBD and miths, possibly steels) and shield over godsword. Of course, using a godsword is much less boring, but you can last longer on an inventory of sharks with a whip than a godsword, and the more frequent eating(missing a turn of combat with a slow as hell godsword has a much larger impact than it does with a whip) counter the increased accuracy of your hits. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 well leaf sword obliterates d long and whip at miths.(shocking but true) How about a zammy spear instead of gs at kbd? That should really own. Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 well leaf sword obliterates d long and whip at miths.(shocking but true) How about a zammy spear instead of gs at kbd? That should really own. Oi that's right I keep forgetting about that sword, really need to get one of those... Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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