State of the community

[Zierro]

I wouldn't even know because apparently I'm a newby since I started after RS2 was introduced.

[la la la]

It is spelled KNIT. Oh the irony. He is trying to talk like an old veteran and the 13-year-old can't spell! HAHAHA.

 

 

 

Nostalgia is an interesting thing that allows us to only remember the good memories from the past, making it seem better than it really was. This thread doesn't discuss how RSC was overrun by autoers due to the absence of randoms or all the popularity and revenue brought to jagex through miniclip. Without that huge form of advertising, the game would definitely be as advanced and as worked-on as it is today.

[Peterblue]

There is the same deal with Halo. I had an argument with my brother. While I agreed with him that the campaign was more original in Halo 1(CE), my point was that Halo 3 was simply better. He even tried to state that the Halo 1 Multiplayer was better than Halo 3ès. Having recently played Halo 1, I knew what it was like. Nostalgia didnèt protect it from me not liking it. So, the point is, him not having played it in 4 or 5 years made him think it was better than it is.

[zotto]

I think I joined either late 2004 or early 2005. I honestly can't remember. I do know I found runescape through miniclip.

 

 

 

Back then runescape was full with scammers, bots and beggers. It was easier to make friends back then, because there was more need for public chat, since there wasn't a clan chat. So you could stop at moments to join a conversation during an activity. That doesn't really happen often any more.

 

 

 

That said, I like the current Runescape much better than the old one. GE made our lives so much easier. We have so many new skills. So much more possibilities to train, so much more equipment which allows for personal choices.

 

 

 

I love the current state of the game. I had very bad experiences in the beginning due to excessive scamming. A game should relax you, and entertain you. That's what the current version does more than the one I started with. I actually quit Runescape for almost a year because I started to find it frustrating and annoying, but came back because of the changes implemented by Jagex such as the GE. And I truly started liking the game again.

 

 

 

The community has become professional. People tend to know what they are doing. People tend to wear optimal outfits for tasks. And when not on tasks they love to 'dress up'. It's great walking through the different parts of Runescape and see the community at work.

[highlanders]

If you haven't personally played Rs1, then you don't know and never will be able to know if the community was better. That's really all there is to it. You don't have anything to base yourself upon when you claim it's just memory making everything better, you don't know that, you weren't there.

 

 

 

Who are you going to believe. The person who was there. Or the person who wasn't there. It's that simple. Ideally, if you haven't seen it with your eyes, have no opinion. Why bother having an opinion you're clueless about?

 

 

 

The community wasn't perfect back in Rs1, but it was perfect in its imperfection. In a sense that, the good balanced out the bad and the community was overall more interesting.

 

 

 

Get in a room with 5 people. What happens? You talk, you get to know each other, it's easy when you're not many. Same room, but put 10 people, you can still communicate but it's not as private. Put 30 people in, you only hear the loud ones. Put 200/500/1000 people in increasingly large rooms: what happens? Some sort of chaos, people only go towards people they already know, and have no clue about the rest of the people. It's true that extremes meet sometimes, in rooms with huge amounts of people you are actually more alone than in a room with 10 people.

 

 

 

You enter into a restaurant. You get seated at an individual table, and simply eat. Another restaurant, you enter and get seated at a round table with 7 other strangers à la Euro-style. What happens? You talk to them, and make new acquaintances.

 

 

 

In this metaphor, Rs1 is an average to poor restaurant but with round tables and you get to communicate. Rs1 is the classroom with 5 or 10 people. Rs2 is the restaurant you get seated alone with no human contact, but the food is excellent. Rs2 is the crazy room with 2000 people in it. 10 servers with 300-ish people each or 1xx servers with 2000 people each.

 

 

 

It's worth mentioning the community starting sucking before miniclip arrived, miniclip just exacerbated the problem from bad to very bad. The real cause being Rs2 of course = huge [bleep]e in population.

[Fromfirst2Last1987]

If you haven't personally played Rs1, then you don't know and never will be able to know if the community was better. That's really all there is to it. You don't have anything to base yourself upon when you claim it's just memory making everything better, you don't know that, you weren't there.

 

 

 

Who are you going to believe. The person who was there. Or the person who wasn't there. It's that simple. Ideally, if you haven't seen it with your eyes, have no opinion. Why bother having an opinion you're clueless about?

 

 

 

The community wasn't perfect back in Rs1, but it was perfect in its imperfection. In a sense that, the good balanced out the bad and the community was overall more interesting.

 

 

 

Get in a room with 5 people. What happens? You talk, you get to know each other, it's easy when you're not many. Same room, but put 10 people, you can still communicate but it's not as private. Put 30 people in, you only hear the loud ones. Put 200/500/1000 people in increasingly large rooms: what happens? Some sort of chaos, people only go towards people they already know, and have no clue about the rest of the people. It's true that extremes meet sometimes, in rooms with huge amounts of people you are actually more alone than in a room with 10 people.

 

 

 

You enter into a restaurant. You get seated at an individual table, and simply eat. Another restaurant, you enter and get seated at a round table with 7 other strangers à la Euro-style. What happens? You talk to them, and make new acquaintances.

 

 

 

In this metaphor, Rs1 is an average to poor restaurant but with round tables and you get to communicate. Rs1 is the classroom with 5 or 10 people. Rs2 is the restaurant you get seated alone with no human contact, but the food is excellent. Rs2 is the crazy room with 2000 people in it. 10 servers with 300-ish people each or 1xx servers with 2000 people each.

 

 

 

It's worth mentioning the community starting sucking before miniclip arrived, miniclip just exacerbated the problem from bad to very bad. The real cause being Rs2 of course = huge [bleep]e in population.

 

i played rsc/rs1. i played before addy armor

[Armadyllo]

More players (in the longterm) -> more successful game. It may be more fun to have a small community where it's easier to know people and everyone's a friend, but we can hardly complain that too many people want to play in the game where we play!

 

 

 

Suppose you made a quirky little arthouse movie, and it became a hit with a small cult group. That's nice, but it's not going to pay the bills, and it'll be forgotten as soon as that little group grows up and moves on. Maybe you'd rather make a big blockbuster that'll be fun for millions of people across the world.

 

 

 

If you're after a closed community, look for a monastery, not a MMOG.

[baalboy5]

I liked your rant in Rate This! better, had more meaning.

[magmaguard3]

I think the game goes by in stages. People start the game in the miniclip age. Then they either mature or leave the game. Then after they "mature" they reach that stage where they constantly play and begin their runescape "Career". Then they become oldies or they quit/retire. Thats how I see it. I would say some people take longer to mature than others, but I don't think people in the miniclip group will always be annoying and all.

[Fromfirst2Last1987]

I liked your rant in Rate This! better, had more meaning.

 

 

 

i liked you better before you posted unneeded input

[Adam007]

Eh, not so much. I think your subjective experience gives you a different opinion on the community. For a year or two it may have been different because the game was a different game. The creators interacted with a small group of players, and people ran into each other and knew each other. But this was before the game exploded with 10k-200k+ players on at a time. We'll separate that community as just an entirely different game.

 

 

 

From that point on though, nothing's changed. Everyone feels like their beginning days had a better community because newbs weren't annoying you all the time. Well guess what: you were the newb annoying other people, you just didn't realize it. Yes you had more fun, but now you're just being overly nostalgic. The community's the same it's always been.

[Xx_Flare_xX]

Alot better then it used to be.

 

It'll never be perfect though.