Al Qaida Threatens More London Attacks

[Forceape]

Al Qaida has threatened more terror attacks in London, in a video issued by Osama bin Laden's second-in-command.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ayman al-Zawahri blamed Prime Minister Tony Blair for the July 7 bomb outrages and the failed attacks of July 21, because of Britain's involvement in the war in Iraq.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And he warned the US that it faced "tens of thousands of dead'' if it did not withdraw its troops from Iraq.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a video broadcast on Arab satellite TV channel al-Jazeera, the Egyptian-born terror chief said: "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more of that, God willing.''

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Speaking before a plain background, with a Kalashnikov rifle propped up behind him, al-Zawahri described terror attacks in countries including Britain as "volcanoes of wrath'' in revenge for blood spilt in Arab countries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"As to the nations of the crusader alliance, we have offered you a truce if you leave the land of Islam,'' he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Hasn't Sheikh Osama bin Laden told you that you will not dream of security before there is security in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Muhammad?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Instead, you spilled blood like rivers in our countries and we exploded the volcanoes of wrath in your countries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Our message is clear: you will not be safe until you withdraw from our land, stop stealing our oil and wealth and stop supporting the corrupt rulers.''

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Downing Street declined to comment on the new video, and there was no immediate response from the Foreign Office.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But Labour MP Peter Kilfoyle, one of the fiercest Commons opponents of the decision to go to war in Iraq, said that al-Zawahri was wrong if it thought Britain would buckle to threats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Obviously, al Qaida misunderstand how things are done here, because certainly the idea that the British people would accede to threats of this sort is very wide of the mark,'' he told the Press Association.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"My own view has remained undiminished that the war was the wrong thing to do, and I am not ashamed of that view, but nor do I accept that a murderous groups like al Qaida are in any position to make threats against this country of any sort.''

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Terrorism expert Paul Rogers, the professor of peace studies at Bradford University, cautioned that the video did not prove that al Qaida was behind the London bombings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"It doesn't mean that they are directly involved,'' he said. "We can't say whether they are or not, but this doesn't confirm that they are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"They are very sophisticated at jumping on bandwagons, even at the top of the movement.''

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prof Rogers said that the video would be unhelpful to Mr Blair, who has sought to play down any link between British military involvement in Iraq and the London bombs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"It is commonly recognised by security analysts that Iraq has been an absolute gift to al Qaida,'' he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The paradox is that somebody like al-Zawahri says the conflict will go on as long as the Americans are present in Iraq, but al Qaida would like the conflict to go on in Iraq as long as possible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"This video statement is trying to make political capital out of what has happened, but it is quite effective because it does connect Iraq with the war on terror, which may be helpful for (US President) George Bush, who has made the same link himself, but is not so helpful for Blair.''

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On the video, al-Zawahri predicted American losses in Iraq will outstrip those in Vietnam if the US does not withdraw.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"As for you, the Americans, what you have seen in New York and Washington, what losses that you see in Afghanistan and Iraq, despite the media blackout, is merely the losses of the initial clashes,'' he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"If you go on with the same policy of aggression against Muslims, you will see, with God's will, what will make you forget the horrible things in Vietnam and Afghanistan.''

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He added: "The truth that has been kept from you by Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defence Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld is that there is no way out of Iraq without immediate withdrawal, and any delay on this means only more dead, more losses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, and after tens of thousands of dead, and double that figure in disabled and wounded.''

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The message was the first video featuring al-Zawahri to emerge since June 17, when he attacked US proposals for democratic reform in the Middle East.

[jamie]

If whats he is saying is true we should leave. We have no right to be in there countries stealing there oil and wealth and killing there innocents. But - didnt they start this? Also? Why didnt they do anything to stop these corrupt leaders in the Arab Countries themselfs.. We are not aiding them we are removing them.. I dont understand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NO NEED FOR VIOLENCE EVER. Put as Jesus said an eye for an eye = Those who strike us down shall be struck down too.

[Futurama]

I really don't understand why we dont just withdraw our troops and let them stew in their own mess.

 

 

 

It's not blairs fault some [bleep]wads blew themselves up. It's their fault. The government don't control minds you know (at least to our knowledge - but lets not start that)

[BlueLancer]

If whats he is saying is true we should leave. We have no right to be in there countries stealing there oil and wealth and killing there innocents. But - didnt they start this? Also? Why didnt they do anything to stop these corrupt leaders in the Arab Countries themselfs.. We are not aiding them we are removing them.. I dont understand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NO NEED FOR VIOLENCE EVER. Put as Jesus said an eye for an eye = Those who strike us down shall be struck down too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder whatever happened to "turning the other cheek"? I guess that part of Jesus's sayings was deleted as 'inappropriate'. :lol: And if you think they will just 'leave', Iraq is the biggest business opportunity of the 21st century.

[Pur304]

BlueLancer I understand what you mean, but you don't understand what "turning the other cheek" means.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When that was written, if you were struck on the cheek, it was intended as an insult, not as assault. So really it's just saying don't retalliate if you're insulted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes, I think thye won't leave Iraq either.

[Mercifull]

They can threaten what they like but it is the leaders of Al Quieda that are hiding. They are the ones who are afraid not us. We will never back down and let them take away our way of life. GO BACK TO YOUR CAVE AYMAN!!!

[Bmw]

That guy is a [bleep]ing [wagon]. Thank god for tip it censors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's acting like a complete idiot, thinking he's doing himself and his people good by threatening to kill thousands of Americans? They criticize Bush and Blair soooo much, but do they think they are any better? What a moron, for lack of a better appropriate word. Appearing on national tv to threaten more attacks. Its not just that that makes me mad, its the fact that he said "September 11th is nothing compared to what we will do."

 

 

 

If I were the US, I'd put all forces and money on finding these [wagon]. Its amazing how little they are doing to hunt for Al Quaeda. True, many have died already, but they MUST do everything possible to find them. End of story.

[indy500fan]

im all for peaceful resolutions when possible, but i dont see this fixing itself peacefully. until they are gone, they are going to continue trying to terrorize us.

[Tomato]

If whats he is saying is true we should leave. We have no right to be in there countries stealing there oil and wealth and killing there innocents. But - didnt they start this? Also? Why didnt they do anything to stop these corrupt leaders in the Arab Countries themselfs.. We are not aiding them we are removing them.. I dont understand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NO NEED FOR VIOLENCE EVER. Put as Jesus said an eye for an eye = Those who strike us down shall be struck down too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Matthew 5:38-40

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[a] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.

[Bmw]

Well I've finally realized and concluded on why everything he said sent chills down my spine. What he is saying is true. He is threatening to wreak havoc, and not a thing he said was a lie. I believe that they will make Vietnam look like nothing. I believe they have a ton in store for us all. Its just so...I dunno. Speechless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Instead, you spilled blood like rivers in our countries and we exploded the volcanoes of wrath in your countries."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What a line. How true and sad it is. This just shows it will never end. The so called terrorists will not stop until the USA stops. the USA will not stop until these terrorists stop. It is a never ending chain, and will/can only end in nuclear destruction, in saying that, today was the 60th anniversary of the Japan bombings. Does this not say anything to anyone?

[rocketman089]

today was the 60th anniversary of the Japan bombings. Does this not say anything to anyone?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank god we ended that war before hundreds upon hundreds of thousands more lives were lost in an inevitable invasion that could have been in vain. That's what it says to me. Sure, it was unfortunate and nobody is proud of it, but it was either thousands of Allied lives lost, or thousands of the enemy lost. Harsh, but that's what it ame down to, desperate times, desperate measures.

[jackalope14]

 

today was the 60th anniversary of the Japan bombings. Does this not say anything to anyone?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank god we ended that war before hundreds upon hundreds of thousands more lives were lost in an inevitable invasion that could have been in vain. That's what it says to me. Sure, it was unfortunate and nobody is proud of it, but it was either thousands of Allied lives lost, or thousands of the enemy lost. Harsh, but that's what it ame down to, desperate times, desperate measures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont think BMW said that to strike conversation about WWII. He meant to point out the coincidence (or maybe not a coincidence at all) about the threats being on the anniversary

[Crim_nimora]

I halfheartedly support the war in Iraq.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saddam Hussien needed to be removed, terrorist support just further confirms he was working with them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However I dont believe it was the best choice of action at the time.

 

 

 

In Sudan Genocide is taking place, and our United Nations isn't doing a damn thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to bring up Vietnam is a joke, that was hardly a war that america intended to win.

 

 

 

American troops were set up and ordered not to take any affirmative invasion actions. They turned into nothing more than static targets, which is horrible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only way to lighten enemy attacks in Iraq other than to withdraw is to put up another contries flag and declare it something else.

[rocketman089]

 

 

 

I dont think BMW said that to strike conversation about WWII. He meant to point out the coincidence (or maybe not a coincidence at all) about the threats being on the anniversary

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, he also asked a question about it, so I thought I'd answer (though it was more than likely rhetorical, meh). Just saying what I had to say about what he pointed out. If he didn't want to bring it into the conversation, he wouldn't have mentioned it would he?

[jackalope14]

 

 

 

 

I dont think BMW said that to strike conversation about WWII. He meant to point out the coincidence (or maybe not a coincidence at all) about the threats being on the anniversary

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, he also asked a question about it, so I thought I'd answer (though it was more than likely rhetorical, meh). Just saying what I had to say about what he pointed out. If he didn't want to bring it into the conversation, he wouldn't have mentioned it would he?

 

 

 

 

 

 

he didnt want to bring WWII into the debate/conversation, he was just refering to the timing of the threats. Just letting you know because I dont want this to turn into a debat about WWII

[hammerhand]

What the terrorists don't relise is that its britian there threatining. If the british are anything like they were in World War 2 then he could blow up half of britian and that would just make britian that much more determined to bring him down.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also terrorists don't relise that if they stop attacking us we will leave them in peace. If they do not stop we will stay in the middle east until every last one of them is dead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Technicly speacking the terrorists aren't even muslims since the violate quite a few of Islams laws in the corse of there actions. However the muslim people must recognize that and make sure the terrorists are not welcome anywere on the planet, only then will they be defeted.

[Bmw]

Nah, I disagree. If Terrorists stopped attacking (impossible, but for the sake of arguement) then we'd still be in Iraq. The thing is, and I'm sure Bush realized this when he decided to go, USA and Britain will be in Iraq for years to come, even decades. They cannot leave until everything is just, which only God knows when that'll be. When the descision was made to go into Iraq, it was a long term descision, like it or not. Terrorists stopping now will not do a single thing to benefit Iraq, besides terrorism within the country itself.