summoning?

[tigershelby2]

is there a way to break even or even profit while just making pouches?

[ultimatballr]

I am wanting to say no.. but I am not 100% adept at summoning as I only trained it for a little.

 

 

 

However I do know that levels 1-71 cost me a grand total of no more than 5m.. and that was making about 500 t birds, 1k bunyip and the rest the best crimson pouch I could for the level.. didn't sell any, maybe 500 bunyip pouches and always exchanged pouches for shards.

[tigershelby2]

hmmm...do you know if its possible to break even by selling the pouches?

[Death123141]

is there a way to break even or even profit while just making pouches?

 

Void Spinner?

[CookMePlox]

A list of the pouches that make a profit (if you can sell them on the GE, of course)

 

Spirit Scorpion - 549 GP

 

Spirit Graahk - 831

 

Spirit Kyatt - 1781

 

 

 

There are a couple other that make a profit, but they involve an untradeable ingredient (Abyssal Charms, Pest Control Charms)

 

 

 

Keep in mind though, you're probably better off losing a bit of money but getting more XP per charm. Also, are you including the cost of getting the charms (Lobster Bursting, etc...?) if you are, there's no way you'll manage to break even. But if you have the charms already, those are the ones you would make a slight profit on.

 

 

 

There is, of course, the art of shard swapping, which can be done, but I only recommend it if you are going to need more shards, or have a surefire way to sell them. refer to this article on the RuneScape Wiki for more information on how shard swapping works.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-CMP

[tigershelby2]

is there a way to break even or even profit while just making pouches?

 

Void Spinner?

well im still only lvl 4 lol...i seem to remember jagex saying you could turn the pouches back into a shards with only loosing a few? is that true?

[ultimatballr]

is there a way to break even or even profit while just making pouches?

 

Void Spinner?

well im still only lvl 4 lol...i seem to remember jagex saying you could turn the pouches back into a shards with only loosing a few? is that true?

 

 

 

Yes go to the Summon master on Gu'tunoth and she will return 70% of the shards you used for the pouch back to you... something like that.. I forget her name though.

[tigershelby2]

is there a way to break even or even profit while just making pouches?

 

Void Spinner?

well im still only lvl 4 lol...i seem to remember jagex saying you could turn the pouches back into a shards with only loosing a few? is that true?

 

 

 

Yes go to the Summon master on Gu'tunoth and she will return 70% of the shards you used for the pouch back to you... something like that.. I forget her name though.

 

ok...so last question...is there a profitable way to train? or break even whilst training?

[aspeeder]

is there a way to break even or even profit while just making pouches?

 

Void Spinner?

well im still only lvl 4 lol...i seem to remember jagex saying you could turn the pouches back into a shards with only loosing a few? is that true?

 

 

 

Yes go to the Summon master on Gu'tunoth and she will return 70% of the shards you used for the pouch back to you... something like that.. I forget her name though.

 

ok...so last question...is there a profitable way to train? or break even whilst training?

 

Really the only way in which summoning becomes profitable is when you *GASP* SUMMON CREATURES! :o

 

BoB, Healers, and Foragers can make quite a bit of profit/are less expensive options whilst training combat, but no just making pouches is at least going to drain a bit away (Also at lower levels the familiars arent very useful, so you're better off training and taking some loss until it becomes useful ;) )

[transcript80]

At lower levels, the spider that can spawn red spider eggs with its scrolls can make you a profit.

 

 

 

The granite crab forages low level fish (+ boosts fishing level->more efficient fishing = money too!) that couls make up for the amount it costs. (not sure). I know this is the case for Ibis pouches later on. The amount of swordfish it forages makes up for cost + some, since its 2nd ingredient (harpoon) is only 5 gp.

 

 

 

Bunyips sell, (maybe profit) but they are a bit out of your range for now.

 

 

 

As always, the more you gather yourself, the less it costs. For example, I mined iron or in the Piscatoris mine on my way to the summoning obelisk. XP + saving gp = good for me!

 

 

 

To each his own. Others will point out opportunity cost, but that is no fun to me.

 

 

 

As stated before, you might want to invest in blowing through the first levels, I think 5M for 1-50 is feasable. GL!

[Inuashakent]

GET AS MUCH XP AS YOU CAN PER POUCH! You can make money from the benefits later.

[chris924]

Not sure if it is still the case but

 

1. if you make some of the pouches that require a non-tradeable tertiary, there may be a profit

 

2. the spirit hunter creatures (ie. Kyatt) you can sell for a profit if you collect your own tertiaries

 

 

 

Just train slayer, I have gone to 88 summ through slayer (primarily) and have more money now then when I started.

 

 

 

Hence (at least for me):

 

the money made via slayer (how i get my charms) > money spent on summ.

[CookMePlox]

Another idea you might want to try out is making scrolls. At this point, the scrolls that make a profit in lower levels are Call To Arms, and Unburden. If you can manage to make 20000 Scrolls per hour (very feasible if you either utilize hot air balloons or get a taverley house), the XP won't be fantastic, but the Money will be great. 846,000 Coins per hour making Call To Arms scrolls out of Void Ravagers. It's only 2.1k XP per hour, but a great way to make money.

 

 

 

-CMP

[Inuashakent]

Another idea you might want to try out is making scrolls. At this point, the scrolls that make a profit in lower levels are Call To Arms, and Unburden. If you can manage to make 20000 Scrolls per hour (very feasible if you either utilize hot air balloons or get a taverley house), the XP won't be fantastic, but the Money will be great. 846,000 Coins per hour making Call To Arms scrolls out of Void Ravagers. It's only 2.1k XP per hour, but a great way to make money.

 

 

 

-CMP

 

They're junk and I doubt they'l sell...

[dragon246665]

summoning is not a money making skill, you have to understand this.

 

 

 

What it is however, is a money enhancing skill. You can use it to make up for what you lost while still paying to use it. All in all summoning just makes other skills more profitable.

[CookMePlox]

Another idea you might want to try out is making scrolls. At this point, the scrolls that make a profit in lower levels are Call To Arms, and Unburden. If you can manage to make 20000 Scrolls per hour (very feasible if you either utilize hot air balloons or get a taverley house), the XP won't be fantastic, but the Money will be great. 846,000 Coins per hour making Call To Arms scrolls out of Void Ravagers. It's only 2.1k XP per hour, but a great way to make money.

 

 

 

-CMP

 

They're junk and I doubt they'l sell...

 

 

 

In fact, they DO sell.

[Inuashakent]

Another idea you might want to try out is making scrolls. At this point, the scrolls that make a profit in lower levels are Call To Arms, and Unburden. If you can manage to make 20000 Scrolls per hour (very feasible if you either utilize hot air balloons or get a taverley house), the XP won't be fantastic, but the Money will be great. 846,000 Coins per hour making Call To Arms scrolls out of Void Ravagers. It's only 2.1k XP per hour, but a great way to make money.

 

 

 

-CMP

 

They're junk and I doubt they'l sell...

 

 

 

In fact, they DO sell.

 

I highly doubt it will sell in the quantity of millions though... there really isn't THAT much demand for Call to arms. Nifty little trick but I doubt it's reliable, especially if others start using your technique.