dark bow frustration

[EGmaestro]

so ive had my dark bow for about a week now, and im still trying to decide if i like it or not..

 

sure it shoots two at a time, but it shoots incredibly slow. however, the fact that it shoots slow isnt an issue for me, what is an issue is that it just simply wont hit! even though it shoots two arrows, about 50% of the time, one of the arrows hits a 0, and id say about 80-90% of the time, it will hit below a 5. i rarely ever above a 10 with it, and i think i have hit a 10-10 only once. this is with mith arrows and i have 70 range.

 

 

 

for the amount i paid for this bow and the fact that it is a high level weapon, i would expect it to hit much more often than it does. the only time it ever hits good is with d arrows, but i just dont have the cash for arrows that cost 2k a peice. i mean my hit ratio is so much better with a freaking mage short, i hit 10-11 with that constantly..wtf..if the bow actually hit like it should, i would love it.

 

 

 

well theres my rant..enjoy! :mrgreen: :thumbdown:

[Moad14]

I would never buy a dark bow. I consider them to be awful weapons.

 

Plus, if you want high hits, mithril arrows are not the proper choice. Even though you payed a lot for your toy, batteries to run it still aren't cheap.

[Sir_Kurity]

Other than a pking weapon it is largely useless, anyway, it shouldn't be any more inaccurate than any other weapon, or do any less damage than another bow with the same arrows.

 

 

 

I find its very useful pking though, ever tried dark bow farcasting? :thumbsup:

[compfreak847]

It's very accurate, I think you just haven't tried it enough...

[Sir_Kurity]

Because the weapon is so slow, you wince at every zero...

[llamster]

The only use for it is PvP. If you're PvPing you should be using dragon arrows or at least rune.

[JacTise69]

The other factors I can think of are what else are you wearing for ranging? and what are you trying to range? No offense but 70 range is nothing special, and I'm sure if you were 80+ you would see a drastic improvement in accuracy. That being said the extreme slowness between volleys will make every zero seem that much worse. Count the number of zeros you see within 100 hits and compare it to 100 hits with bronze daggers/arrows. It will probably be about the same but with the daggers it seems less because of how fast it goes.

 

 

 

Finally the d bow is not meant for conventional training, its really only good for pking with dragon arrows and full void to get the best effectiveness. You would be better off for training selling it and buying knives, or if you're extreme chinchompas.

[EGmaestro]

The other factors I can think of are what else are you wearing for ranging? and what are you trying to range? No offense but 70 range is nothing special, and I'm sure if you were 80+ you would see a drastic improvement in accuracy. That being said the extreme slowness between volleys will make every zero seem that much worse. Count the number of zeros you see within 100 hits and compare it to 100 hits with bronze daggers/arrows. It will probably be about the same but with the daggers it seems less because of how fast it goes.

 

 

 

im wearing full black dhide, and yea, 70 range might b nothin special, but im a lvl 64 so for my cb level its not bad. its not so much the zeros but all the low hits in general, seeing as i can hit constant 10-11 with my mage short and im hitting like below 5 constantly with the darkbow, often with both arrows..ill do the 100 hits and find the amount of 0's like u suggested tho, ill repost when i find out.

[compfreak847]

 

 

 

im wearing full black dhide, and yea, 70 range might b nothin special, but im a lvl 64 so for my cb level its not bad. its not so much the zeros but all the low hits in general, seeing as i can hit constant 10-11 with my mage short and im hitting like below 5 constantly with the darkbow, often with both arrows..ill do the 100 hits and find the amount of 0's like u suggested tho, ill repost when i find out.

 

Then you haven't tried it long enough. 100 hits is next to nothing, you need at least 10,000 to see any sort of a pattern.

[mister_moocky]

i have 70 range.

 

There's your problem.

[JacTise69]

 

 

 

im wearing full black dhide, and yea, 70 range might b nothin special, but im a lvl 64 so for my cb level its not bad. its not so much the zeros but all the low hits in general, seeing as i can hit constant 10-11 with my mage short and im hitting like below 5 constantly with the darkbow, often with both arrows..ill do the 100 hits and find the amount of 0's like u suggested tho, ill repost when i find out.

 

Then you haven't tried it long enough. 100 hits is next to nothing, you need at least 10,000 to see any sort of a pattern.

 

 

 

True but for most people, recording 10,000 hits is a little taxing on their patience, not to mention their sanity. Anything in the hundreds would give an extremely rough idea of any pattern than could be there. Besides the fact if he is getting into the tens of thousands of hits he is going to be leveling up at his range lvl, which would throw off the results.

[compfreak847]

 

True but for most people, recording 10,000 hits is a little taxing on their patience, not to mention their sanity. Anything in the hundreds would give an extremely rough idea of any pattern than could be there. Besides the fact if he is getting into the tens of thousands of hits he is going to be leveling up at his range lvl, which would throw off the results.

 

Exactly why he should quit whining, as he has no idea what he's talking about. It was a roundabout way of delivering my point :

[Sir_Kurity]

Also, accuracy has NOTHING, to do with how high you hit, it only changes how often you hit.

 

 

 

So a willow shortbow, if it hits with mith arrows, will have the same damage potential as a magic longbow, of course the longbow will hit more.

[EGmaestro]

Also, accuracy has NOTHING, to do with how high you hit, it only changes how often you hit.

 

 

 

So a willow shortbow, if it hits with mith arrows, will have the same damage potential as a magic longbow, of course the longbow will hit more.

 

 

 

yes im well aware of that...im not talking about how high it hits im talking about how often..read my post all the way thru before u reply. ty tho. ;)

 

 

 

Exactly why he should quit whining, as he has no idea what he's talking about. It was a roundabout way of delivering my point

 

 

 

are u saying i need to quit whining?

[compfreak847]

 

yes im well aware of that...im not talking about how high it hits im talking about how often..read my post all the way thru before u reply. ty tho. ;)

 

 

And it hits much more often then any other range weapon. Post reading fail.

 

 

 

 

are u saying i need to quit whining?

 

Yay, you got the point. Get a reason to whine before whining.

[hihihi727]

 

yes im well aware of that...im not talking about how high it hits im talking about how often..read my post all the way thru before u reply. ty tho. ;)

 

 

And it hits much more often then any other range weapon. Post reading fail.

 

 

 

 

are u saying i need to quit whining?

 

Yay, you got the point. Get a reason to whine before whining.

 

I've noticed you like aruging alot. This is rants forums what do you expect people to do?

[Sir_Kurity]

Also, accuracy has NOTHING, to do with how high you hit, it only changes how often you hit.

 

 

 

So a willow shortbow, if it hits with mith arrows, will have the same damage potential as a magic longbow, of course the longbow will hit more.

 

 

 

yes im well aware of that...im not talking about how high it hits im talking about how often..read my post all the way thru before u reply. ty tho. ;)

 

 

 

Exactly why he should quit whining, as he has no idea what he's talking about. It was a roundabout way of delivering my point

 

 

 

are u saying i need to quit whining?

 

 

 

Yes, but you also complain about how much it hits low amounts, i decided to address that, so by all means, read your own post.

 

 

 

and id say about 80-90% of the time, it will hit below a 5

[Xx_Flare_xX]

this is with mith arrows and i have 70 range.

 

 

 

Pretty much explains it,

 

 

 

If you get your ranged level alot higher and use better arrows you should get alot better results,

 

 

 

And do you have a good Ranged bonus? the higher your Ranged bonus the better the results :

[compfreak847]

 

I've noticed you like aruging alot. This is rants forums what do you expect people to do?

 

To rant, not make up a complete lie based on incomplete information and start crying when people prove them wrong.

[Sir_Kurity]

I think its a valid rant.

 

 

 

Rants forum : vent your in game frustrations.

 

 

 

If his frustration is his dark bow isn't good enough for him, its valid enough.

[compfreak847]

I think its a valid rant.

 

 

 

Rants forum : vent your in game frustrations.

 

 

 

If his frustration is his dark bow isn't good enough for him, its valid enough.

 

Check out this thread: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=783809

 

"Your rants also need to be worthy of discussion. Rather than saying, "I don't like this, it sucks," you need to present a valid argument for your rant and back it up."

 

 

 

Does he have a valid argument for his rant? Nope, it's quite the opposite - he's ranting about something that has already been proven dead wrong. Not only is it spam, it's incorrect.

[EGmaestro]

Yes, but you also complain about how much it hits low amounts, i decided to address that, so by all means, read your own post.

 

 

 

yeah thats true. :

 

 

 

To rant, not make up a complete lie based on incomplete information and start crying when people prove them wrong.

Does he have a valid argument for his rant? Nope, it's quite the opposite - he's ranting about something that has already been proven dead wrong. Not only is it spam, it's incorrect.

 

 

 

 

 

you must have forgotten to read this part of that thread:

 

 

 

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ok first off when have i been crying, and who has proven me wrong? theres nothing to be proven here. alls i said was that my dark bow hits tends to hit lower and less often that lower leveled range weapons. this isnt a lie, seeing as i own a dark bow and on average it doesnt hit as good as my mage short. cant prove me wrong on that seeing as im staring at my computer screen as its happening, pretty sure im not making it up. now maybe this isnt the same case for you but im not talking about anyone else, im talking about how it hits for me.it is a perfectly valid "rant".

 

 

 

compfreak, alls you are doing is flaming me cause u dont like the fact that im "complaining" about something. you are in no way helping this discussion i posted about, and if youre not going to contribute anything usefull dont post in my topic. go back to the rsof, they opened up the rant forum there just for you :mrgreen:

 

 

 

for everyone else, thanks for ur input, i guess ill just get up my range level before i use my dark bow more often

[compfreak847]

ok first off when have i been crying, and who has proven me wrong? theres nothing to be proven here. alls i said was that my dark bow hits tends to hit lower and less often that lower leveled range weapons.

 

compfreak, alls you are doing is flaming me cause u dont like the fact that im "complaining" about something. you are in no way helping this discussion i posted about, and if youre not going to contribute anything usefull dont post in my topic. go back to the rsof, they opened up the rant forum there just for you :mrgreen:

 

No, I'm 'flaming' you because your wrong. As said before, you have far too small of a sample range; I've run tests with a much larger range and numbers don't lie. Your trying to argue against facts, and it really doesn't go that well.

[EGmaestro]

first off you havent given any facts, even if you have, your facts are irrelevant, im talking about me and my experiences, not yours, and i havent said anything about a sample range

[compfreak847]

first off you havent given any facts, even if you have, your facts are irrelevant, im talking about me and my experiences, not yours, and i havent said anything about a sample range

 

You said you haden't even collected 100 hits yet, when at least 1,000 would be required for any sort of results.

 

 

 

Oh, and I have given a fact, and a relevant one too. News flash: Testing has conclusively proven dark bow more accurate then magic short bow, and your limited results (as well as your rant) are wrong.