Gonalo40 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Hi a friend told me its better to kill gargoyles with ss and crush on than whip is that true? ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 They;re kinda equal. At my stats i can use a Whip+rune def and kill them just fine. They are weak to crush but its not as bad as waterfiends (also weak to crush) where you absolutely need a crush weapon to be able to kill effectively. OF course the crush weapon helps, but you also lose the choice of using the Rune Defender which helps. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitstinks Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Pretty much the same. Shouldn't go all through that just to attack a monster's weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 The weakness isn't big enough to make a profound impact. Stick with whip. It's the same with dragons. I bet you didn't know that dragons are weak to stab attacks. But it doesn't matter since their weakness isn't big enough to make stab weapons better than the whip. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. Jw, what's an LBS? :oops: ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. Jw, what's an LBS? :oops: Leaf-Bladed Sword. Side note: most people say that its not as good as a whip on miths, but it does work quite well. I did a small test and noticed more consistent hits while with a whip i did higher hits, but a lot of 0's. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosoffar Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. Jw, what's an LBS? :oops: Leaf bladed sword, best 1 handed stab weapon. Edit: beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. Jw, what's an LBS? :oops: Leaf bladed sword, best 1 handed stab weapon. Edit: beat me to it. Gotcha ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. Oh, I'm sorry, I totally did not know that you tested it a total of ONE TIME. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. Oh, I'm sorry, I totally did not know that you tested it a total of ONE TIME. It doesn't matter, if you have high stats and the Gargs have low defense their weakness doesn't make much of a difference. Yes gargs are weak to crush, but if you're using a whip it doesn't make much of a difference. And im not the only person to have killed them. If you go to a spot of gargs you will notice that people kill gargs both with whip+def and a ss. Its up to you which to use. Same with most creatures. But the stronger creatures, like waterfiends and mithril dragons, you need to use what they are weak against or you will have a hard time killing them. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. Oh, I'm sorry, I totally did not know that you tested it a total of ONE TIME. It doesn't matter, if you have high stats and the Gargs have low defense their weakness doesn't make much of a difference. Yes gargs are weak to crush, but if you're using a whip it doesn't make much of a difference. And im not the only person to have killed them. If you go to a spot of gargs you will notice that people kill gargs both with whip+def and a ss. Its up to you which to use. Same with most creatures. But the stronger creatures, like waterfiends and mithril dragons, you need to use what they are weak against or you will have a hard time killing them. A lot of people fish sharks because they think it's good money, but does that make it true? No. Keep in mind that most players absolutely suck at Slayer. Players with much higher slayer levels than you have done extensive testing, which is why we know these things. You wont notice a difference in just one slayer task. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Yes, SS is better than a whip for gargoyles. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and inexperienced. I gotten 3 tasks of Gargoyles. 2 of which i used Whip+Def, and the other i used a SS on Crush (i was going for def the first 2 tasks and str the 3rd). I did not notice any different in the time it took to kill them. Also i have a large group of friends who also say the same thing. Gargs do have a weakness to crush, but since they have a weak defense themselvees, you can easily kill with a whip. And as Zaaps1 said dragons are weak to stab, but up to irons you can easily kill with a whip. Steels and Miths are easier to kill with a LBS. Oh, I'm sorry, I totally did not know that you tested it a total of ONE TIME. It doesn't matter, if you have high stats and the Gargs have low defense their weakness doesn't make much of a difference. Yes gargs are weak to crush, but if you're using a whip it doesn't make much of a difference. And im not the only person to have killed them. If you go to a spot of gargs you will notice that people kill gargs both with whip+def and a ss. Its up to you which to use. Same with most creatures. But the stronger creatures, like waterfiends and mithril dragons, you need to use what they are weak against or you will have a hard time killing them. A lot of people fish sharks because they think it's good money, but does that make it true? No. Keep in mind that most players absolutely suck at Slayer. Players with much higher slayer levels than you have done extensive testing, which is why we know these things. You wont notice a difference in just one slayer task. You have 86 and he has 90 you have a much higher slayer level don't you. And they don't have that high defense, but if you want to use a crush weapon you can if you feel it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Ok but SS may be better, but its not much of a differenc. I also know a big group of people, and just asked. They said ss is better, i've been told that whip+def doesnt make much of a difference. But still if u have good enough stats, and don't have 7m spare, whip+def will work just fine. Lulz at Death. (btw i just got 90 slayer and only had a total of 3 Garg tasks. So i never killed them much.) [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Between the rock hammer and their extremely annoying flying animation, I have gargs blocked. They're a great task and all, but they annoy the hell outta me... ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribbleman Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Considering your stats, whip+def will probably perform better. If you end up using another type of shield (no atk bonus), then the SS would do better. PROUD Owner of Quest cape since 12/25/08 99 Attack Achieved 6/5/09Drops: Dragon Boots x5, Dragon Chainbody x1 (Dusties) Abyssal Whip x3, Abyssal Head x1Best single TT Reward: Saradomin Platebody + Zammy Page 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadngone Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I use whip + defender and yet and yet, I hit constant 30s. EZ task. NOTE- I use slayer helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I noticed no difference getting 99 str with ss on slayer (lots of garg tasks) and 99 def on slayer (lots of garg tasks) Basically if your training str use ss with crush, if not just use whip. If you have a dscim id not use it and use a whip. Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets_3ekout Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 They're just about equal - ss will have more accuracy by a very small amount while whip will have a small strength advantage (from defender). Don't go buying a SS just for garg assignments, unless of course you want to train strength :thumbup: Choose your weapon based on what stats you want to train. A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meme79 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 SS is marginally better, but save your money and don't buy ss unless you already have for str training XBL gamertag: SeismicTriangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 The weakness isn't big enough to make a profound impact. Stick with whip. It's the same with dragons. I bet you didn't know that dragons are weak to stab attacks. But it doesn't matter since their weakness isn't big enough to make stab weapons better than the whip. I beg to differ on one count. Killing mith dragons with a leaf bladed sword on stab is far better than killing them with a whip. Steels it is close, and irons are weaker anyway so lbs=whip it seems. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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