[TWR] Legendz Defeat Downfall

[Clay_More12]

But Uffan pm'ed Jc that we might be late before the HP war, and Jc said its okay.

[UltraPrimal]

Downfall, just for future reference, next time dont yell out "Auto Win" or "DQ" after the war on Runescape. Fight the war, say gf, leave, and if there were any rulebreaking you post it on the forums. There is no need to make the decision of "won by DQ" on your own. It is rude :shame:

 

 

 

I will not get involved in this "who should win debate of the month" but I believe this thread should be locked and let TWR mods decide what to do without anymore nonsense being posted

[True_Ownage]

LEGENDZ PLEASE POST ANY MORE EVIDENCE TO THE TWR MODERATORS.

 

 

 

Well, what a pleasant surprise, I wake up to see 98 replies, how nice. And although I see mods posts saying to let them decide, since I was asleep ( : ) when 98 replies were posted, lemme remind you of some facts, please.

 

 

 

Basically:

 

 

 

- DF lateness - Rule broken - 47/32 minutes.

 

- LGZ attacking - Rule broken - 1 Bind.

 

- Who won the war inside the portal - LGZ - 62-0.

 

- Who refused to Rm and made up excuses like "We dont fight flamers" - DF.

 

 

 

They all pretty much null each other out. Except the warring part. The fact you decided to leave over 1 BIND pretty much explains the war. We didn't want a big argument on TWR as it is unfair on the mods to decide who wins. However, at the time it looked like both clans came together at the same time, so we didn't even know who attacked first! But as we didn't know, we didn't wanna be labelled as cheats, so we asked for a rm, what difference would it make if it didn't give DF more of an advantage to win? And plus, you say it's about warring skills, then why is 1 bind such an issue? How would that radicly effect the war so bad that we needed to be DQED.

 

 

 

DF if all would have gone to plan inside the portal, and then you won the war for example, I'd be posting against your win due to your absurd lateness. Yeah, we know you was warring HP, we allowed 15 minutes extra time, you kept pming me to say "we're coming" when nothing changed. You had non DF officials telling us in the war world to wait! You dug yourself into a hole by accepting a war an hour before another war. Even though ours was arranged 1st! The fact you had 140 opts ready to war with 16 opts finishing a war with HP shows that perhaps you was deliberately stalling us? Not an accusation, a suggestion.

 

 

 

One more thing is that if TWR were to null this war/ask for a rm, I remind you that we kindly asked for a rm to stop the confusion, and DF said no.

 

 

 

Both sides flamed so that nulls each other out, although I have started to demote people.

 

 

 

Please restrain from posting on this topic Legendz, it'll only make DF look bad if they continue to post.

 

 

 

And also a big apology to HP for being involved in some of this.

[Clay_More12]

So its Df's fault that Lgz ACCEPTED the rules?

[Lukeeeeee]

And plus, you say it's about warring skills, then why is 1 bind such an issue? How would that radicly effect the war so bad that we needed to be DQED.

 

 

the bind was only the start of a pile that wasn't meant to happen. lower opts are meant to attack but before df got the chance one person had been ko'ed.

 

df wouldn't deliberatly stall any war and it would have been unfair to those who were still warring hp to miss out on the next war.

[nikhil71993]

Avoidable it is. DF don't need to war twice in a few hours. Do 1 war and u don't have that problem. It looks very annoying for LGZ to wait 47 minutes after the official wartime and 32 minutes after the allowed delay. Also rulebreaking imo. I know DF must finish the war but it's wrong to do 2 wars in a few hours.

 

 

 

I think this is enough to make the things clear. Legendz could even ask for auto win, but still we fight. We asked for a match and just one bind is making you angry... Imagine how angry our clan members were when they had to wait for 45minutes...

[Clay_More12]

But Uffan pm'ed Jc that we might be late before the HP war, and Jc said its okay.

 

 

 

Read this slowly

[True_Ownage]

But Uffan pm'ed Jc that we might be late before the HP war, and Jc said its okay.

 

 

 

Read this slowly

 

 

 

That's why Amatuernoob came into my cc asking for extra time a couple of hours before the war, I said maximum 15.

[sprite5]

i suggest no1 get points and make a rematch after 1 month let people ralax and think about that situation and at that day i suggest to downfall to make just 1 war at that day.

 

 

 

i suggest that bcos both teams have broken the rules.

[True_Ownage]

i suggest no1 get points and make a rematch after 1 month let people ralax and think about that situation and at that day i suggest to downfall to make just 1 war at that day.

 

 

 

i suggest that bcos both teams have broken the rules.

 

 

 

We offered a rm bro, they rejected.

[DfChexvorn]

At no point were LGZ forced to fight us after we were late. SO don't complain about it.

 

If you thought us being late was reason enough for a disqualification, then why did you continue?

 

We were lenient after our last war, when you had multi-clanner's in the war.

 

 

 

 

 

Your pile on Uffan started before any of us attacked you.

 

DQ.

[infinitone]

Right lets look at facts.

 

Downfall were late, it was unavoidable, live with it.

 

 

 

 

Unavoidable? I don't think you understand what unavoidable means dude.

 

 

 

As for flames sent by df, we had someone come at our forums' shoutbox and was flaming.

 

 

 

As for you being lenient to rm, if we put your thinking into play, we shouldn't of been lenient to wait 45 minutes to war? But thats not how we do things, or any warring clan. We waited for a war, too bad it didn't happen.

 

 

Do you realize an rm on the spot could of easily solved this, yet you were too 'tired' to do that, and prefer forum posts instead.

[Clay_More12]

If you don't realise THIS was the rm

[DfChexvorn]

This war was a rematch because you broke the rules last time!

 

so don't start with the being lenient.

 

 

 

You accepted the fact that we were late, and we warred.

 

You can't really call DQ on it once you've let it go.

[UltraPrimal]

 

You accepted the fact that we were late, and we warred.

 

You can't really call DQ on it once you've let it go.

 

 

 

Normally clans fight the war (EVEN IF THEY KNOW THE OTHER CLAN HAS BROKEN RULES) and they claim rules broken AFTER the war so LGZ has every right to say that your tardiness is a rulebreak.

 

 

 

DF should have fought out the entire war just to show that you are honorable and THEN claim DQ on forums.

[True_Ownage]

I still don't see how 1 bind can dramatically change how a war finishes, but ok, I'm gunna stop arguing now because it's not doing us any favours. I suggest that you do too DF...

[Clay_More12]

But Uffan pm'ed Jc that we might be late before the HP war, and Jc said its okay.

 

 

 

You also read this slowly. :lol:

[DfChexvorn]

Walking out isn't breaking the rules.

 

After we walked out, they had technically won.

 

Like I said, they had accepted us being late, otherwise they wouldn't have continued and warred us, would they?

[UltraPrimal]

Like I said, they had accepted us being late, otherwise they wouldn't have continued and warred us, would they?

 

 

 

Just like when a clan knows they are fighting multiclanners, they accept it and fight, say good fight and leave, and then claim rulebreaking afterward.

 

 

 

This stops flaming on RS by low ranked members (which I can see is exactly what occurred) and can instead be discussed on the forums by the clan officials.

[kerrigo]

Like I said, they had accepted us being late, otherwise they wouldn't have continued and warred us, would they?

 

 

 

Just like when a clan knows they are fighting multiclanners, they accept it and fight, say good fight and leave, and then claim rulebreaking afterward.

 

 

 

This stops flaming on RS by low ranked members (which I can see is exactly what occurred) and can instead be discussed on the forums by the clan officials.

 

 

 

i think am8 has explained why we didnt do the war. this happened to us before against LK i think, they broke a rule but we carried on the war then a TWR mod said to am8 that we should of walked out if there was any rule-breaking.

[Uffan5]

Wow this has gone far since i went to sleep :?. But all i have to say is this was a rematch, and last time we faught out the war after we knew the opposing clan had a rule break we weren't given the win, which is why we walked out this time. We could have taken the win in the first war but, just like Legendz we wanted to settle this war on the battlefield as well, which is why the rematch took place. But a second chance at getting the rules right didn't work leading to us drawing the line. All Downfall members please stop posting, we are just going in circles over the same topics.

[Dfdarkpyro]

first off, it would be easier if only clan officials who were AT THE WAR and KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT posted from here on. frmo reading this over 90% of these posts are pointless spam because not everyone knows what actually happenned.

 

 

 

First off, I'd like to adress Harnam.

 

Harnam, i really dont know what your saying when you posted Downfall starts a dispute about everything. You had 2 disputes in a row on Tip.It, before your clan fell apart. Hypocritical much? Downfall has had one dispute, with LK, which was YOUR CLAN, and which was about 13 MULTICLANNERS.

 

 

 

Secondly, I'd like to adress anyone who says we should have taken the rematch. Why would we want to have a 3rd war with LGZ, it would be a rematch for the rematch, since LGZ broke the rules in their first war with multiclanners. They then piled Uffan first (one of our best leaders), and KO'd him since he had no idea what was happenning...

 

 

 

Thirdly, coming off the second post, is the fact that DF didn't walk out because a bind was thrown. They KO'd our Leader while he had full food and full pray (and let me tell you, he's a good tank), because he had no idea what the hell Legendz was doing because the rules said lower opts attacked first. We left because KO'ing our Leader when we were supposed to attack first and possibly KO THEIR LEADER (Bravenewfy I believe was leading them), would have been much different start to the war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lastly, when we had our dispute against LK, it was nulled because we stayed and warred. A TWR Mod told Amateurnoob that if that should ever happen again, we should walk out, get evidence, and post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Enough said.

[lordhotshot]

All Downfall members please stop posting, we are just going in circles over the same topics.

 

Doesn't mean you can still post. Just let the TWR mods handle it.

[True_Ownage]

 

Secondly, I'd like to adress anyone who says we should have taken the rematch. Why would we want to have a 3rd war with LGZ, it would be a rematch for the rematch, since LGZ broke the rules in their first war with multiclanners. They then piled Uffan first (one of our best leaders), and KO'd him since he had no idea what was happenning...

 

 

 

Thirdly, coming off the second post, is the fact that DF didn't walk out because a bind was thrown. They KO'd our Leader while he had full food and full pray (and let me tell you, he's a good tank), because he had no idea what the hell Legendz was doing because the rules said lower opts attacked first.

 

 

 

Multi clanners? LOL?

 

 

 

And also, we also had 1 death from the start, and due to your lateness we had 6 dropped anyway so yes, it was merely 1 bind that made you walk out.

[infinitone]

rofl, as far as multiclanning is concerned, you do realize your in the wrong group if you are concerned about that since there are TEAMS allowed to war in TWR.

 

 

 

Don't act ignorant and make a fool of yourself and your clan.