[TWR] Legendz Defeat Downfall

[Uffan5]

rofl, as far as multiclanning is concerned, you do realize your in the wrong group if you are concerned about that since there are TEAMS allowed to war in TWR.

 

 

 

Don't act ignorant and make a fool of yourself and your clan.

 

No we have already talked to Jc about this problem which is why we rematched ;)

[infinitone]

No we have already talked to Jc about this problem which is why we rematched ;)

 

 

 

That doesn't make multiclanning not allowed in TWR, and this war was a TWR ranked war. Also, I'd like to see our 'multiclanners' that were at the war in the first place, talk is cheap.

[Uffan5]

Rules:

 

-no multi clanners

 

-runehead locks 48 hours prior to the war

 

-clan with less people attacks first

 

-any rules broken will result in DQ

 

 

 

 

As you see we agreed on the rule, it was broken, we offered a rematch, and you break another rule. Might i add on you attacked first in the original war also. One of the members you even added minutes before the war was to start as he was asking us as we massed to join so he could war, which was sad in itself.

[Dfdarkpyro]

inf, you weren't at EITHER of the wars, your telling me to to make a fool of myself?

 

 

 

please Inf, don't embarass yourself more, if you knew what i was talking about, i wasnt talking about this war, i was talking about the one 2 weeks ago where you had multiclanners, which is why this rematch took plac.e

 

 

 

and no Jc, we didn't leave because of 1 bind, since we figured it was an accident, but when you piled and KO'd our leader we realised that you had no intention of stopping, and therefore broke that rule.

[infinitone]

As you see we agreed on the rule, it was broken, we offered a rematch, and you break another rule. Might i add on you attacked first in the original war also. One of the members you even added minutes before the war was to start as he was asking us as we massed to join so he could war, which was sad in itself.

 

Give me names, screens, proof, talk is cheap.

 

 

 

For the record, lgz has been massing an average of 60 men every Saturday war, so no, we didn't just add people.

 

 

 

please Inf, don't embarass yourself more, if you knew what i was talking about, i wasnt talking about this war, i was talking about the one 2 weeks ago where you had multiclanners, which is why this rematch took plac.e

 

 

And I just said, TWR has no issue with multiclanners, there are TEAMS that are permitted to war in TWR, do you understand or am i speaking gibberish? Such as Team Fear.

 

 

1 more note, why do i keep seeing 'you weren't there so shut it.' Are you afraid of what people have to say? This is a public forum for war-enthusiasts, it doesn't matter if you were there or not, as long as you aren't talking senselessness. The TWR Mods weren't there, why don't you tell them off too while your at it?

[Uffan5]

Talk to Jc about he knows what happened in the first war :)

[infinitone]

Talk to Jc about he knows what happened in the first war :)

 

 

 

Ah, so i have to go find the evidence that you want for you... not very credible is it. So, i guess that puts an end on the multiclanning issue since you don't seem to have any evidence in the first place.

[Uffan5]

If we didn't then why would Jc agree to the rematch instead of just posting the win the first war?

[True_Ownage]

inf, you weren't at EITHER of the wars, your telling me to to make a fool of myself?

 

 

 

please Inf, don't embarass yourself more, if you knew what i was talking about, i wasnt talking about this war, i was talking about the one 2 weeks ago where you had multiclanners, which is why this rematch took plac.e

 

 

 

and no Jc, we didn't leave because of 1 bind, since we figured it was an accident, but when you piled and KO'd our leader we realised that you had no intention of stopping, and therefore broke that rule.

 

 

 

Video evidence shows that some DF started to attack LGZ members before we k0ed Uffan?

[Uffan5]

inf, you weren't at EITHER of the wars, your telling me to to make a fool of myself?

 

 

 

please Inf, don't embarass yourself more, if you knew what i was talking about, i wasnt talking about this war, i was talking about the one 2 weeks ago where you had multiclanners, which is why this rematch took plac.e

 

 

 

and no Jc, we didn't leave because of 1 bind, since we figured it was an accident, but when you piled and KO'd our leader we realised that you had no intention of stopping, and therefore broke that rule.

 

 

 

Video evidence shows that some DF started to attack LGZ members before we k0ed Uffan?

 

Where?

[Loge_05]

Clearly, this topic has changed from discussing the war to taking petty shots at one another. I'll unlock this once we have something worth posting.

[Loge_05]

Topic unlocked.

 

 

 

Legendz gets the win.

 

 

 

The first war between Lgz and DF was, according to both sides, scrapped as Lgz supposedly had 'multi-clanners'. Both sides then accepted another war, although we weren't formally notified (except one informal convo with a mod?). We can only act on what we're given, though: DF did not formally request for Lgz to be disqualified, and so we can strike that result from memory - DF and Lgz both agreed not to count it, so I really don't see how DF can then turn around and demand that it now counts, it was now the first war, and yesterday's war is now a rematch. In the eyes of the TWR staff, this was the only war.

 

 

 

The timing rule is largely irrelevant; like the first war, if both clans chose to ignore it then, they can chose to ignore it now. As DF didn't show up on time, Lgz could have claimed the win (as happened here and here). But Lgz chose to ignore DF's tardiness, so we should too.

 

 

 

From the video, it's clear that Lgz attacked first; I don't dispute that. After DF walked away, one of their warlords messaged me via MSN. Going from the timing of screenshots and my logs, I was messaged around eight minutes after DF walked away. I suggested to DF to do a rematch, but they declined; their stance is also confirmed by the numerous screenshots Lgz have posted of them refusing.

 

 

 

There's also something worth pointing out in the video, around 0:08; one of DF's members says 'Told u', as if he had been proven right in predicting that Lgz were rushing. Was any contact made with Lgz to remind them who rushes first? From the MSN messages I received, I'm guessing not.

 

 

 

Lgz showed good sportsmanship by admitting their mistake and asking for a rematch. If in future your opponent has multiclanners, then you have to stop the war, take screenshots and leave - that would be a valid reason to leave. But I don't see why DF felt like they had to walk out for a much minor reason, when the solution to the problem (a rematch) was being offered.

 

 

 

The TWR will be updated later today. The win goes to Lgz.

[20Rice04]

Rather upsetting that two of the largest, most active clans here cannot seem to get on without any mud throwing and flaming.

 

 

 

Tbh the TWR mods usually know best and in this case they've hit the nail on the head :) =D>

 

 

 

gf LGZ, gf Df.

[True_Ownage]

On behalf on LGZ I'd like to apologize for any flames/gestures made by my clan through-out this whole saga. If DF would like to have a fun event with LGZ anytime then my Pm's always on and we can get something arranged. Maybe a rematch some time. :)

[bravenewfy]

Gf, lgz, and df, hope to war again soon.

[infinitone]

Thank you for spending the time to resolve this issue in a timely manner, Loge and all TWR Mods, really appreciate the immense pressure and effort you guys put in, deep respect.

 

 

 

As for the war, jc's post above mine exemplifies what I would of said. Though, I would like to hit on 1 point. I hope no hard feelings will be taken by any Downfall members, and especially their leaders; Uffan and Amateurnoob. Though I would understand their will be some sort of grudge and bad history, I hope we can have a fun allied war together to help strengthen our relationship. Downfall, without a doubt has made TWR much more active since they joined, and I hope this incident will not affect their contributions & experiences to the clan warring community.

 

 

 

And I'm sure Downfall leaders realize just as we do, that both members' from both clans are very close together, some would even question why a merge hadn't been done yet, so I hope this incident does not affect such relationships between both clans' members.

[Uffan5]

No hard feelings at all. Gratz on the win Legendz we are always open for fun wars and maybe a rematch in the future ;).

[DFWILL]

gf lgz. Im smelling rm soon, hopefully one with no rule breaks and tardiness.

[Loge_05]

Legendz, 219; Downfall, 50.