"You cannot make a post so soon after your last."

[Phil]

I hope noone takes offense to this but seriously why do we need a numerous amount of Mods if they dont do much at all? There's probably 5 locks a DAY. If someone spams, woop-de-doo. BAN THEM.

 

Eh? Are you being serious here?

 

 

 

YOU see 5 locks a day. I see a lot more behind the scenes.

 

 

 

You don't see the spamming, the thousands of innapropriate gifs, numerous spammers spam at the same time making their threads impossible to even view.

 

 

 

Are we meant to just dump the whole work load on admins?

 

 

 

I don't take offence to this because I can see how misinformed you are.

[Laikrob]

I think the user in question is aware that the mods do more than just this. :-#

[das]

Are we meant to just dump the whole work load on admins?

 

 

 

Let me answer that....:-P LOL. *whips phil* work harder phil

 

 

 

The amount of work our mods do is mind numbing - i'd guess for every 5 minuts of forum work you see - probably 20-30 minutes per mod behind the scenes doing something else

[tripsis]

I hope noone takes offense to this but seriously why do we need a numerous amount of Mods if they dont do much at all? There's probably 5 locks a DAY. If someone spams, woop-de-doo. BAN THEM.

 

Eh? Are you being serious here?

 

 

 

YOU see 5 locks a day. I see a lot more behind the scenes.

 

 

 

You don't see the spamming, the thousands of innapropriate gifs, numerous spammers spam at the same time making their threads impossible to even view.

 

 

 

Are we meant to just dump the whole work load on admins?

 

 

 

I don't take offence to this because I can see how misinformed you are.

 

Just adding onto what Phil said (and I agree with him completely), moderators do not just lock. We remove a lot of posts from public view (most of the ones that break the rules, actually), issue warnings, make sure that signatures and avatars are within the limits, discuss and implement new policies, remove/change old policies, manage forum contests, promote and demote guides in the Archive of Wisdom (and its subforums), and much more. Then there are the clan moderators who have even more work to do. Since they are trying to rebuild the entire clan section to its former glory, they have more than enough work on their plates right now. They have lists to manage and update, new ideas to develop and put into action, etc.

 

 

 

As Phil said, just because you only SEE five locks a day, doesn't mean that there isn't more going on. Plus you have to consider all of the forums that you may not necessarily read on a daily basis.. those have to be taken care of too. While I will agree that much less moderation is required today than 2 years ago, there is still a lot of work to do and we currently have a solid team to do it.

[RayOxide]

Well fair enough I was being a bit stupid and overreacting.. But seriously, there arent many spammers often. There definitely arent that many (extremely) inappropriate pictures posted. I do lurk Off topic (probably the most explicit board) and General discussion (the most popular) while I'm on, and tbh I have no life so I'm on kinda often and alot. Sure you do alot of work but the post time is too much and restricts people from doing anything really. Since I actively post in numerous boards at a time it really annoys me. A simple decline in the huge amount of time before you need to post would be nice.

 

 

 

EDIT: Yes the mods do less work now than 2 years ago when I began posting more often, but those times there were less mods. Now there are more, (more admins too ;)) and there is less work being done. And there's still an advertisement to get Mods. See, with the amount of mods there are now in comparison to back 2 years ago, it's like a vacation. >.>

 

 

 

Obviously it should take 1 minute to reply, but there could be a simple 20 second answer you post while almost posting another. Which kinda gets in the way.

 

 

 

And yeah I still overreact but I have no real reasons as to why I think the post time thing should be lower :| it just should.. the time it is now is ridiculous.

[Rainy_Day]

Well fair enough I was being a bit stupid and overreacting.. But seriously, there arent many spammers often. There definitely arent that many (extremely) inappropriate pictures posted. I do lurk Off topic (probably the most explicit board) and General discussion (the most popular) while I'm on, and tbh I have no life so I'm on kinda often and alot. Sure you do alot of work but the post time is too much and restricts people from doing anything really. Since I actively post in numerous boards at a time it really annoys me. A simple decline in the huge amount of time before you need to post would be nice.

 

 

 

EDIT: Yes the mods do less work now than 2 years ago when I began posting more often, but those times there were less mods. Now there are more, (more admins too ;)) and there is less work being done. And there's still an advertisement to get Mods. See, with the amount of mods there are now in comparison to back 2 years ago, it's like a vacation. >.>

 

Sorry but if you do not hold the role of moderator, you simply cannot fathom our workload. A lot goes on behind the scenes compared to what you see in public. I'd say we are only just coping with the current amount, more moderators are definately needed.

 

 

 

And there are spammers often, and probably in most threads. However their posts are removed, but you and other users will rarely notice this.

 

 

 

Perhaps its best not to assume these things? :?

[RayOxide]

Assuming things is how we came to be. 8-)

 

 

 

I dont see how because I am not a moderator I cant say that mods were doing a fine job 2 years ago like tripsis said, there was more work, and as I said less mods (yet less forum users and less publicity) but back then we didnt have a post time-restriction, and everything was fine.

 

 

 

You could at least try no-time-restricting for like 2 days before you really 'assume' it's helping alot. ;)

 

And if not that, even a slight nerf to make the time shorter would be greatly appreciated

[n_odie]

Well, this is an interesting thread thus far.

 

 

 

Crew members are not connected to mods and the work mods do in anyway. Becoming an admin from crew really gave me an eye opener into how much work moderators really do.

 

 

 

The thing is, as mentioned, every lock, avatar, move, signature, ban, spam, harassment, ect ect ect you see creates background work. Not only from 1 forum but every forum on this board. So moderator WORK is more than one would imagine. It shocked me coming from crew.

 

 

 

However, that isn't even a moderators primary job. That's just what come with being a leader and mediator of the forums. Right now, lots of the moderators barely have time after handling issues to "enjoy the forum for themselves." Right now, many have that burden; come online, deal with crap for a few hours, log off. :(

 

 

 

The posts they do that are non-mod related thus suffer, these posts are very important as they are leaders in the community (often times before they became a mod!). When they don't post, people feel mods don't do anything because they don't see much of them. Kinda funny isn't it? The busier we get the less people think goes on. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

More on topic, the post timer is a necessary evil. If we where to make a way to bypass it, it would encourage people to spam to get it and then you have all these spammers with no limit. Forum games was the only forum I ran into it with, so I understand the annoyance. :?

[obfuscator]

I still really like the idea for dsavi's workaround, which would allow any moderator to mute a user, so in case of spammers any moderator could take action. It also wouldn't have any lasting effects. It may have been discussed already but I haven't heard anything about it so I'll link you to it.

 

 

 

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[Wachtwoord]

However, that isn't even a moderators primary job. That's just what come with being a leader and mediator of the forums. Right now, lots of the moderators barely have time after handling issues to "enjoy the forum for themselves." Right now, many have that burden; come online, deal with crap for a few hours, log off. :(

 

 

 

The posts they do that are non-mod related thus suffer, these posts are very important as they are leaders in the community (often times before they became a mod!). When they don't post, people feel mods don't do anything because they don't see much of them. Kinda funny isn't it? The busier we get the less people think goes on. :lol:

 

I've always thought most users get a lot less active once they've become mods. It's pretty sad, as you already pointed out, they're supposed to have a leader's role in the community, which also means posting "normal" posts. Too bad there is nothing which can be done against it. They can't be forced to post.

[Rainy_Day]

However, that isn't even a moderators primary job. That's just what come with being a leader and mediator of the forums. Right now, lots of the moderators barely have time after handling issues to "enjoy the forum for themselves." Right now, many have that burden; come online, deal with crap for a few hours, log off. :(

 

 

 

The posts they do that are non-mod related thus suffer, these posts are very important as they are leaders in the community (often times before they became a mod!). When they don't post, people feel mods don't do anything because they don't see much of them. Kinda funny isn't it? The busier we get the less people think goes on. :lol:

 

I've always thought most users get a lot less active once they've become mods. It's pretty sad, as you already pointed out, they're supposed to have a leader's role in the community, which also means posting "normal" posts. Too bad there is nothing which can be done against it. They can't be forced to post.

 

Hopefully with the release of the mod trainees, that will start to change. :) I tend to be bogged down with mod work, though at the same time I do prefer to lurk and only post when a thread is really interesting.

[meol]

That seems to happen to most mods though. Besides assassin, almost everyone started posting less in public after becoming mods. Anyway, having too many mods can only be something good. Hopefully we'll get some good trainees this time.

[dsavi]

Yeah, hopefully it won't be as bad as last time. ;)

[Wachtwoord]

That seems to happen to most mods though. Besides assassin, almost everyone started posting less in public after becoming mods. Anyway, having too many mods can only be something good. Hopefully we'll get some good trainees this time.

 

The fact that it happens every time doesn't make it good.

[meol]

That seems to happen to most mods though. Besides assassin, almost everyone started posting less in public after becoming mods. Anyway, having too many mods can only be something good. Hopefully we'll get some good trainees this time.

 

The fact that it happens every time doesn't make it good.

It isn't good at all, that's what I meant. It's bad mods feel overburdened and stop posting as usual, and that's why having 'too many' mods would be better for everyone. Mods becoming more absent might be a symptom of their workload.

 

Yeah, hopefully it won't be as bad as last time. ;)

:lol:

[das1330]

Well fair enough I was being a bit stupid and overreacting.. But seriously, there arent many spammers often. There definitely arent that many (extremely) inappropriate pictures posted.

 

 

 

You would be surprised - generally we are quite quick about it, but such things happen several times a week, not to mention the lower priority spammers which are much, much more common.

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Yes the mods do less work now than 2 years ago when I began posting more often, but those times there were less mods. Now there are more, (more admins too ;)) and there is less work being done. And there's still an advertisement to get Mods. See, with the amount of mods there are now in comparison to back 2 years ago, it's like a vacation. >.>

 

 

 

Back then it was even worse - before the first round of mod trainees came aboard, some mods would wake up to twenty reports that needed to be dealt with, each one of which required forms to be filled out, messages to be composed and reports to be filed.