Tipit and Mechscape?

[Danqazmlp]

now we have this forum i can ask something i've been waiting to ask for a while.

 

 

 

Will tipit keep itself solely runescape, or will it Expand to Mechscape.

 

 

 

Will we have a new and second homepage of 'tip.it/mechscape', with corresponding forums etc.

 

 

 

Will we become a Jagex fansite more than a runescape one?

 

 

 

Would we even have the staff to do so?

[InkofDeath]

Will tipit keep itself solely runescape, or will it Expand to Mechscape.

 

Two stand points that Tip.It has to deal with.

 

 

 

One is that, why not? A new game being published by Jagex is most likely in all cases going to be successful financially and probably with the majority of players. Thus if they added content for the game, there is more ad revenue there, and if you start from the beginning it will be easier in the long-run to get information and content created.

 

 

 

The other hand, the game may actually fail and thus it may waste Tip.It's time if they do make content for it. There may not be enough support in the beginning to start a separate team dedicated to Mechscape, but there might be enough later on in the games future. So when would it be a good time to start out? Or does majority of the Tip.It Content team just want to stay with Runescape, or is there enough technically smart people with Tip.It to keep the workload from toppling over when trying to amass a new site or content for the game. And there could already be a number of other sites already ahead of the planning stages, well established and just waiting for content, thus would it be wise to compete with these sites?

 

 

 

Many questions Tip.It has to answer, or probably already has answered and they're just waiting on a few key things to come from Jagex either publicly or through the new friendship Tip.It and Jagex have, to publicly announce what they're going to do. But seeing as how we have a Mechscape board, I'm going to assume they're wanting to branch off into Mechscape as much as possible.

 

 

 

Will we have a new and second homepage of 'tip.it/mechscape', with corresponding forums etc.

 

A site dedicated to MechScape would be the ideal way to go. One way Tip.It can make it easier though is to have it like the LOTR's links down below, but if MechScape grows in popularity then they could have a introduction page where you click to go to Mechscape or Runescape part of the Tip.It site, and even a form so that it automatically takes you to Mechscape or Runescape the next time you visit...etc. There's a lot of possiblities and ways in which Tip.It could go about re-organizing the site url's to coincide with another game to support.

 

 

 

Will we become a Jagex fansite more than a runescape one?

 

I think the only reason the staff of Tip.It are really considering branching off into Mechscape is because of several key factors. For one the amount of popularity Mechscape holds with current Tip.It users is probably around 60-75% of all forum users, that want to know or will potentially play Mechscape, or are interested in things revolving around Mechscape, I think they did a poll, not sure. Another reason is that the staff is probably even excited for Mechscape to be released and they can't wait to play it, thus they now wouldn't particularly care or mind if Tip.It branched off into Mechscape. Thus the huge popularity with the current users here on Tip.It and the staff who are also looking forward to it, is the only reason why it's being considered. Thus we'e not a Jagex fanclub but it's how it works when the users you have are anticipating another MMO from the same company as their current game.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure if the same amount of users were hyped for another MMO release and the staff had the same reasons to be interested, then we'd be having the same discussion now.

 

 

 

Would we even have the staff to do so?

 

Yes. Technically they aren't called staff, more like slaves.

 

 

 

You see come upon release they'll sit back, write a few lines in some posts, and just innocently ask that all Tip.It users submit all and any information they can regarding the game. They'll wait about a week or two after release or during the beta phase to get a proper information template set up, but they'll ask you to use it and give them information.

 

 

 

Thus the mass hoards of users gathering data will be their staff until things calm down, a large portion of data is gathered, and then they look over who put in the best efforts to gathering and submitting data and then will pick staff for the game.

 

 

 

That's basically how to use the mass amount of users here to a good potential, lol.

 

 

 

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I'd personally like to see Tip.It move on to Mechscape because in the long-term it's only beneficial to Tip.It. It may have some conflicts in the beginning, but the positive results in the long-run just outweigh anything in the short-term. Tip.It, as in both staff and users have the potential, as well as the desire to branch off into Mechscape, so it would be a waste if they didn't try in my opinion.

 

 

 

So see, we truly are their slaves.

[n_odie]

First off, this is not an official word or anything, just my personal views.

 

 

 

The MechScape forum board has been in discussion for literally months now as we honestly can't decide what to do until MS is actually released. The board was implement becasue we know there is an interest here on Tip.It. It won't be a huge rush to release guides and such becasue Jagex would be foolish to release the game without a knowledge base. We would simply be copying all the information from them so it wouldn't be that beneficial.

 

 

 

This forum will be a great place to judge the impact that MS will have on Tip.It. If we see a huge interest and user support base, then why not? Can the current staff do it? Probably could but it would be hell for us, so if it was to happen I would see a whole new staff being formed being led by those on current staff that interest are leaning more towards MS. IF this was to happen we would be looking for those who are actively playing MS and have good qualities and history with Tip.It.

 

 

 

We didn't do anything with fun orb because we didn't feel that it would have an impact on the majority of our users. MS will have a larger impact. The (rumored) fact of RS players being invited to a beta shows that. If a good chunk of users decide to try it, we want to support them in some way. This forum being the first step. Right now I feel it is a, lets take it step by step decision by the staff.

 

 

 

Overall, at least we have a forum for discussion and interest to grow. :D

[InkofDeath]

The (rumored) fact of RS players being invited to a beta shows that.

 

It's not a rumor. I just can't link you to two of the sources that hint, or mention a beta. Or I would have done that.

[Laikrob]

You're allowed to link to specific information on other sites, actually more than welcome to. It's just the downright "Come to fansite.com instead because we know so much more, instead of debating here!" that we don't think is fair. ;)

 

 

 

When it comes to guides and such in the beginning, I think the player made ones will be essential. As it is now, we don't have the man and woman power to build a website for MechScape aswell, but if the players do a great job in gathering information - and we are fortunate enough to have a dedicated user base - then the job won't be as overwhelming if the Crew decides to recruit and make another website in the website. Of course, this is just my views and speculations, but I think that if MechScape becomes popular, it would be a shame to split up the Tip.It users. (Well, maybe a few. :P )

[InkofDeath]

it would be a shame to split up the Tip.It users. (Well, maybe a few. :P )

 

I vote sending all the super mods over to the Mechscape boards permanently. Lol. :P

 

 

 

A way to keep the off-topic users and everything that isn't Runescape-related, is you could have that intro page (click on link to forums > intro page) when you click to go on the forums, but when you click on Runescape it would bring you to the current layout of the forums, but when you click on Mechscape it'll give you the related Mechscape forums first, and then the same Off-Topic, Non-Game related forums, the same forums, not different ones, the same posts, and topics as would be on the Runescape forums. Same as what I said with the other one is that it would remember which one to go to automatically if you desire...etc.

 

 

 

So no one is really getting separated, but then again I don't know if phpBB is capable of this or if it would take heavy modding, or devious workarounds.

 

 

 

Does Tip.It have any idea on how would it manage the forums with two games though?

[Laikrob]

I think the current policy is to "wait and see". If MechScape is a flop after 3 months, then it would be a waste for us to spend staff, time and energy on. After all our main priority is and probably always will be RuneScape, so just because something new comes along and everyone goes "OOH SHINY!" :o it doesn't necessarily mean that we will change our main focus. That said, I am all for integrating MechScape if it becomes a success (and continues to be successful), and I am sure that if the users agree, the staff will listen to the users' wishes. Change can definitely be good, but we also have to keep in mind that our userbase is here because we are good with RuneScape. That's why I think your idea is a good one, if it can be done. I'm not the most technical person around, so I can't tell you if it's possible, but I am sure Dsavi pops by and voices his opinion. :P

[InkofDeath]

I think the current policy is to "wait and see".

 

Probably the best policy when dealing with in-development games and especially with MMO's.

 

 

 

I think it is possible, but unless there's a mod for it, it probably won't be done due to the work needed to do it. Or maybe not.

[walka92]

maybe tipit could select mods just for mechscape? and mechscape-crewbies, so they can focus on it rather than draining from the RS side of things (which is likely to be more popular at the end of it all anyway)

[Laikrob]

maybe tipit could select mods just for mechscape? and mechscape-crewbies, so they can focus on it rather than draining from the RS side of things (which is likely to be more popular at the end of it all anyway)

 

There would probably be a mix of old and new if Tip.It decides to continue working on MechScape related stuff, as someone would have to teach the tricks of the trade to the newcomers. After all they would still be a part of the site, and they would need the support, attention and feedback from the existing staff anyway. There is also a chance that some of the now RuneScape playing staff members will go over to playing MechScape, and if that happens, it would be natural to offer them a spot on a MechScape staff. If that is to happen, that is.

 

 

 

Again, these are just my views and opinions, not views of the staff or Tip.It. I'll leave that to the Administrators if they reply to this topic. :)

[Sam]

A new site would be cool, but do consider the work that would have to be done. Sites don't just pop out of thin air, and there are also server costs to think about too.

[Perakp]

Seeing tip.it doesn't have funorb guides or forums around, I'd guess mechscape wouldn't be any different.

[dsavi]

MechScape is entirely different. FunOrb is a collection of small online Java games. MechScape is an entire new MMORPG.

[InkofDeath]

Seeing tip.it doesn't have funorb guides or forums around, I'd guess mechscape wouldn't be any different.

 

I'm going to assume you've only ever played one MMO, possibly even one game that has had over 100 000 players.

 

 

 

When a game studios announces a new game, it means everything about that game will be different. How it's run, to how it's played by the players, even to how players interact with each other in the game. That's how different normal games are, like FPS's, or RTS's.

 

 

 

MMO's on the other hand are far more complex and there's tons of deeper content and implementations to support a social atmosphere or what an MMO is.

 

 

 

Runescape is an old MMO model. Mechscape is probably going to be based on a new Jagex-twisted MMO. This alone separates how different these two games should be.

 

 

 

Then you look at the concept art, or the hints we've had about the game and it's pretty clear Mechscape will be nowhere near similar to Runescape, except for in minor, insignificant cases. If I'm wrong though, then it will be what Jagex says it's not; Runescape in space.

 

 

 

Every game is different and every MMO is worlds apart.

[Laikrob]

I think he meant different to FunOrb. :) The difference is what dsavi already mentioned.

[me]

The (rumored) fact of RS players being invited to a beta shows that.

 

This was originally mentioned in Adam Tuckwell's interview with MechScape World where he said "We have a number of valued subscribers who have been loyal to Jagex and it is only right that we thank them. Current subscribers will be given access to the Beta and it will be free to play". This was later clarified further in various statements on Mod MMG's clan chat and they made it clear that the position was that players who've had several months continuous RuneScape membership at the time of the MechScape beta launch will have access to the beta, and it will be "free" alongside their RuneScape subscription. Of course when MechScape goes out of beta it'd have separate membership.

[n_odie]

The (rumored) fact of RS players being invited to a beta shows that.

 

This was originally mentioned in Adam Tuckwell's interview with MechScape World where he said "We have a number of valued subscribers who have been loyal to Jagex and it is only right that we thank them. Current subscribers will be given access to the Beta and it will be free to play". This was later clarified further in various statements on Mod MMG's clan chat and they made it clear that the position was that players who've had several months continuous RuneScape membership at the time of the MechScape beta launch will have access to the beta, and it will be "free" alongside their RuneScape subscription. Of course when MechScape goes out of beta it'd have separate membership.

 

 

 

I only said rumored as I didn't have the time to look the sources up. Thanks