Range_This11 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Yeah, not going to lie. People are suggesting some absolutely terrible movies for this. If it's going have Tip.it's name on it, we better have a fair system for putting movies on the list. Care to point them out? I've compiled a list of movies I think should not be anywhere near a top 100 movie. 8. Thunderball 14. Gattaca 15. Major League 16. Life of Brian 17. The Hangover 24. Dark Knight 26. Donnie Darko 33. The Fifth Element 41. Shaun of the Dead 49. Eagle Eye 50. Up 52. Rush Hour 53. Rush Hour 2 54. Rush Hour 3 56. I am Legend 57. The Iron Giant 87. Ferris Beuler's Day Off 88. Borat True that. But the thing is that this list is a "100 movies to see before you die. " Not a top 100 movies list. Most of those movies you compiled into your list are very watch worthy, even if they don't have a deep storyline or good character development. I could probably, if given enough time, think of another 20 or so movies that would be better suited for this list. True, there are probably some that I missed because I just skimmed through the list and picked a handful. Those movies may have personal value to some people but none of them so landmark that they "must be seen before you die". "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhaloguy Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I'd like to continue my list since everyone is arguing. Reservoir Dogs Rushmore Snatch Stalker Star wars IV & V Stranger than fiction Taxi Driver Boondock Saints ( I know, not message inspired.. I still love it. ) The Darjeeling Limited The Big Lebowski Matrix Trainspotting Wall-e Vertigo Mirror (Tarkovsky) If you do things right people won't be sure you've done anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 The first thing you said to me was, "This thread is about movies - not books." This implies that you acknowledge books to be deep and meaningful, or else you wouldn't have brought them up. Not every book is as deep and meaningful as every other one though. Compare a Dr. Seuss book to a Mark Twain book. Chances are, the Mark Twain book is going to be a more enlightening experience than reading the Dr. Seuss book. Why can't this work the same way with movies Haha, that wasn't what I meant. I meant that story isn't the most important thing when it comes to movies, but images. A story without the images would be just a story (a book), but those moving images without a story would still be a movie. It was a reaction against you saying that only a movie with a story could be a movie worthy of this list. Later it got bigger with the deepness and meaningfulness of it. I'm not trying to dictate to you guys what is and isn't allowed. If you go back and read my post, I did specify that it would be almost an impossible task to make rules, but if you were to ask me I would suggest more meaningful movies. Just my opinion. But then you started arguing that only books can be deep and meaningful, and the conversation evolved into this. It wasn't anything personal, I was just trying to point out that having rules doesn't work, using your view as an example (since it was the only one available). I know that everything is subjective, but doesn't that make conversation very boring? When you say something is interesting, deep or meaningful, and I disagree, then I should be able to talk about that, right? This is a discussion forum after all. You might show me new insights, I might give you a new perspective, and in the worst case (and you have to wonder how bad that really is...) we have to agree to disagree, but we still had a nice conversation where we've learned a little about each other. Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Yep, that's what it boils down to. I wouldn't be arguing if I didn't enjoy it. :) I still think that a lot of those films I've listed are more meaningful than ones like Toy Story and Shrek, but you're right about the rules causing more problems than they'd fix. We shouldn't have specific restrictions but can we make it so that every random suggestion doesn't automatically get put into the list? It's not really a rule, but I think it would be necessary that if someone wants to mention an unheard movie to be put onto this list, they should add a brief little synopsis or something to support why they think it belongs here and then it can be put onto the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Posted June 19, 2009 Author Share Posted June 19, 2009 Why do I keep seeing Rush Hour 3? That movie was terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matok Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 few more (if the list is stilll updated) - Fargo - Miller's Crossing - The Untouchables - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princeroy80 Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Forbidden Kingdom Kung Fu Hustle Shalion Soccer (dunno if i spelled it right) Bruce Lee:Enter the Dragon Karate Kid maybe? All kungfu movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princeroy80 Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Why do I keep seeing Rush Hour 3? That movie was terrible! What are you talking about? That movie was the BOMB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rkid Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Why do I keep seeing Rush Hour 3? That movie was terrible! What are you talking about? That movie was the BOMB! Not really... And who says "the bomb" anymore? OT: I'm disappointed to see not 1 of my 3 suggestions made it on the list. They are great movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princeroy80 Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Why do I keep seeing Rush Hour 3? That movie was terrible! What are you talking about? That movie was the BOMB! Not really... And who says "the bomb" anymore? OT: I'm disappointed to see not 1 of my 3 suggestions made it on the list. They are great movies. You have to admit that movie wasn't terrible....... and I say "the bomb"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Range_This11 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 You have to admit that movie wasn't terrible....... and I say "the bomb"...... All the Rush Hour movies sucked. Period. Jackie Chan hasn't been funny since...1994? "He could climb to it, if he climbed alone, and once there he could suck on the pap of life, gulp down the incomparable milk of wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElkNight Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 You have to admit that movie wasn't terrible....... and I say "the bomb"...... All the Rush Hour movies sucked. Period. Jackie Chan hasn't been funny since...1994? What movie would that be? 8,180WONGTONG IS THE BEST AND IS MORE SUPERIOR THAN ME#1 Wongtong stalker.Im looking for some No Limit soldiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Pirates Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Jackass 1 & 2 BR BR BR? HUEHUEHEUEHUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElkNight Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Jackass 1 & 2 I haven't seen either, and I don't need nor want to see them. 8,180WONGTONG IS THE BEST AND IS MORE SUPERIOR THAN ME#1 Wongtong stalker.Im looking for some No Limit soldiers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 Jackass 1 & 2 Those deffinately are not "Masterpieces". I still need some system of cutting out some movies to make room for other ones suggested... Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matok Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 .. I still need some system of cutting out some movies to make room for other ones suggested... Any ideas? Sure [hide=movies i saw and remember which shouldnt be in the list in my opinion]5. Lord of the Rings: Return of the King 6. Two Towers 10. The Fugitive 11. Patriot Games 14. Gattaca 16. Life of Brian 19. Monty Python and The Meaning of Life 24. Dark Knight 27. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind 29. Amelie 33. The Fifth Element 37. Se7en 43. 28 Days Later 61. Kill Bill Volume 1 62. Kill Bill Volume 2 76. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas 81. Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels 82. Lost In Translation 90. Gladiator 92. The Sixth Sense 95. The Bourne Identity 96. The Bourne Supremacy 97. The Bourne Ultimatum 108. The Usual Suspects[/hide] and Bladerunner should be on the list as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Posted June 22, 2009 Author Share Posted June 22, 2009 It's funny, because I absolutely agree with you on every one :lol: But we need a better way of doing it than that. We need a voting system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Jackass 1 & 2 Those deffinately are not "Masterpieces". I still need some system of cutting out some movies to make room for other ones suggested... Any ideas? Neither are masterpieces, and neither are all that great besides for a few laughs. But your original post was one hundred movies to see before you die, regardless of how good they are or not. You could argue that one of them should go on there to represent the "low budget TV show given a large budget for a movie and then not doing anything with it" movie. It is also a good representation of actors doing their own stunts, if you really watch a lot of action you see how rare that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcallmedaddy Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Napoleon Dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 You have to admit that movie wasn't terrible....... and I say "the bomb"...... All the Rush Hour movies sucked. Period. Jackie Chan hasn't been funny since...1994? The only time I thought he was funny was on Drunken Master. That movie was hilarious. :lol: But anything else. :thumbdown: I didn't even like the second one that much. Neither are masterpieces, and neither are all that great besides for a few laughs. But your original post was one hundred movies to see before you die, regardless of how good they are or not. You could argue that one of them should go on there to represent the "low budget TV show given a large budget for a movie and then not doing anything with it" movie. It is also a good representation of actors doing their own stunts, if you really watch a lot of action you see how rare that is. Yeah, and you can "argue" that the Hannah Montana movie represents how you can be popular and successful irregardless of your age! Why don't we just make this a list of 1,000,000 movies since we all seem to be fine with the idea that as long as the movie exists, and no matter how crappy it is, it's worthy of being on the list of "must-see" movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Yeah, and you can "argue" that the Hannah Montana movie represents how you can be popular and successful irregardless of your age! Why don't we just make this a list of 1,000,000 movies since we all seem to be fine with the idea that as long as the movie exists, and no matter how crappy it is, it's worthy of being on the list of "must-see" movies. What crawled up your butt? but throw out movies you think are deserving to be seen by everyone, whether they changed movie making, whether they were good, whether they sucked Yes, you could argue that the Hannah Montana movie also would fit on the list on must see films before you die since it was huge movie that affected a lot of people. Whether or not it is good is irrelevant, as the OP said in the quote above. Also you could put some truly bad movies on the list, to show how much a film could suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 What crawled up your butt? You did. No, just kidding - I'm sorry if that came out a bit harsh. I just don't understand why bad movies should belong on a list of must-see movies. I mean, if you had the opinion that they were good movies then it would be different, but you did say that they weren't very good movies and that just because something isn't good it should still belong on the list. Yes, you could argue that the Hannah Montana movie also would fit on the list on must see films before you die since it was huge movie that affected a lot of people. Whether or not it is good is irrelevant, as the OP said in the quote above. Also you could put some truly bad movies on the list, to show how much a film could suck. So then what exactly sets apart a "must-see" movie from a "non-must-see" movie? It doesn't make sense to say that every single movie that exists is a "must-see" movie. What would be the point of this thread then? I thought the point was to limit it down to the 100 top movies that should be your priority to see - not just to say, "Go see every movie that you can." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 So then what exactly sets apart a "must-see" movie from a "non-must-see" movie? It doesn't make sense to say that every single movie that exists is a "must-see" movie. What would be the point of this thread then? I thought the point was to limit it down to the 100 top movies that should be your priority to see - not just to say, "Go see every movie that you can." Well what I thought of when reading the OP was 100 movies to give someone who doesn't really watch movies to show them the full range of what movies can do. So crappy movies would be on the list if there was a reason to. I probably still wouldn't put either Jackass or Hannah Montana on it, since neither of them did anything special. Jackass might be the only reality TV show to get a movie, I don't consider that good enough of a reason to get on the list, but there is an argument for it there. But it seems now the OP and everyone else wants to put their favourite movies on there, which is what any topic like this will become eventually anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 I don't want to put my favorite movies up there...do you see Casino Royale up there? No. Do you see Watchmen up there? No. I have no idea what your talking about Indy. I'm simply trying to think of a way to eliminate movies on the list, put new ones up there, and continue till we have a list of 100 movies that everyone was able to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 But it seems now the OP and everyone else wants to put their favourite movies on there, which is what any topic like this will become eventually anyways. I didn't just put any movie that I liked on here. I would have put stuff like Drunken Master, Night at the Roxbury, Clerks 2, and movies like that but I don't think they really count as "must-see" movies, just more of something that will help you pass time and give you a few good laughs. While I like them just as much as my other list, I don't really think they're worthy of this specific list - movies you must see before you die. And yes, you can "argue" that anything deserves to be put up there just like how you can "argue" homosexuality is wrong or slavery is right or whatever. What it comes down to is if you have a reasonably legit argument or not. Hannah Montana doesn't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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