Zombies/Skeletons 115k exp/hour! BETTER THAN MONKEY ZOMBIES!

[matthew20141]

Hi, Matthew20141 here, I've been a lurker on these forums for a long time and decided to create a guide on my favorite training spot in the game. I was just looking and saw that monkey zombies had to use pray pots, AZ's were crowded as [Cabbage] (I'm too lazy to world hop) and I couldn't read my manga while there, so I found another AFK training spot, this one :). So I present MY GUIDE OF WIN!

 

 

 

Edit=Caromon 27 has decided that this guide was a lie and he wants all the exp so from now on its 1k exp/hour=Matthew20141 has decided that it is!

 

 

 

 

 

[hide=Introduction]What are these monsters that are better than Monkey Zombies? Read my guide to find out!

 

 

Monkey Zombies (129)

 

 

 

 

 

Pros

 

 

 

-Afkable (Drink a Pray pot every couple minutes)

 

-High Hp

 

-Easily Accessible

 

-Undead

 

-Multi-combat so familiars can be used

 

-Maxes at 110k exp/hour

 

 

 

Cons

 

 

 

-Need prayer

 

-Lose 40k/hour

 

-No drops

 

-Need familiar to get 110k exp/hour

 

 

 

Skeletons (79) & Zombies (40)

 

 

 

Pros

 

 

 

-Lower defense

 

-Undead

 

-Easily Accessible

 

 

 

-Afkable (Eat some food every couple Minutes)

 

-Multi-combat so fighting familiars can be used

 

-Maxes at 115k exp/hour

 

-Makes 80k/hour

 

-Magic Exp

 

-20-30 blue charms an hour

 

 

 

Cons

 

 

 

-Pures have almost no chance

 

-Need decent defense level

 

-Need decent armor

 

-Need Familiar to get 115k exp/hour

 

-Possible Revs on the way there[/hide]

 

[hide=Monsters]vs+[/hide]

 

[hide=Requirements and Recommendations]Recommended Levels/Requirements (Good/Better/Best)

 

Attack: 60+/75+/90+

 

Strength: 60+/75+/90+

 

Defense: 60+/75+/90+

 

Magic: 55

 

Summoning: 52+

 

Normal Spellbook

 

Quest Requirements

 

Plague City, Haunted Mine, Tarns Lair Minigame[/hide]

 

 

 

 

 

[hide=Equipment]Equipment

 

Head: Neitiznot>Dragon Full Helm>Berserker Helm>Dragon Med Helm>All (Rune)

 

 

 

Neck: Salve Ammy(e)>Salve Ammy (THIS IS A MUST, Salve ammy(e) or normal)

 

 

 

Weapon: Saradomin Sword (For Strength Training) = Whip> D scim>All

 

 

 

Shield: (If not using 2h weapon): Rune defender>Dragonfire Shield>Dragon Sq>All (Rune)

 

 

 

Torso: Torags Platebody=Bandos Chestplate>Dragon Platebody>Granite body>All (Rune)

 

 

 

Legs: Torags Platelegs=Bandos Tassets>Dragon Plateskirt>Granite legs>All (Rune)

 

 

 

Boots: Dragon Boots>Rune Boots>Adamant Boots>Climbing Boots>All

 

 

 

Ring: Ring of life=Berserker Ring>Warriors Ring>Ring of Wealth

 

 

 

Gloves: Barrows Gloves>Dragon Gloves>Rune gloves>Best RFD Gloves

 

 

 

Cape: Firecape>Skills cape trim>Skills cape>Obsidian Cape>Legends Cape>all

 

 

 

Spec Weapon: Saradomin Godsword>Enhanced Excalibur>Dragon Battleaxe+Restore

 

 

 

Important!!!

 

Salve ammy(e) or Salve ammy is REQUIRED! Do not do this place without it.

 

Oh but the fury has better strength bonuses.

 

OH NO IT DOESNT, Salve ammy (e) has +20% Attack and Strength and not (e) has +15%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, I dont have the cash to pay for a Saradomin Sword, so just imagine that a Saradomin Sword Exists in this picture if you are training strength.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These equipments are just baselines, feel free to mix and match then equipment, just dont be stupid and try to wear something like Ahrims/Splitbark/Mystics here-_-, I've seen people here do that.....well one person.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you only have the equipment shown above, you are going to eat a LOT more food if you have no bunyip/other familiar. And if you only have this armor, Im going to assume that either you are a rune pure or you are a low level, both of which dont go too well with aggressive, multi-combat monsters.[/hide]

 

 

 

[hide=Inventory Setups]Inventory setups

 

 

 

What should we take to these monsters? Well, if you think that Oh Im a high level, I wont take any damage, YOU ARE WRONG! The skeleton has a max hit of 10 and the Zombie has a max hit of 5, both being somewhat accurate, even with super potted at 90 def, full barrows+dfs, I still get hit, however, a enhanced Excalibur or Saradomin Godsword negates a lot of this damage and if you take bunyips, it is almost fully negated. You should still take a fighting familiar, Like an Obby Golem because it boosts the Exp you get/hour by around 15-20k. Thus, we get an inventory that looks something like these three. Your Beasts of burdens items are up for you to decide.(I'm too lazy to take pics of those) Fires and nats are important, they drop lots of alchables.

 

 

 

 

This is an average inventory, for people with ok armor and ok defense.

 

A BoB should be used with this inventory.

 

1X Dragon Battleaxe

 

2X Restore potion

 

2X Super attack potion

 

2X Super defense potion

 

200X Natures

 

1000X Fires

 

1X Cannonball

 

1X Mud rune

 

1X Law rune

 

10X monkfish

 

1X Coin (Placeholder)

 

1X Empty spot

 

1X Each type of Charm

 

 

 

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Good inventory, the enhanced Excalibur can be replaced with a SGS if needed. Use the SGS spec on the Skeletons.

 

A BoB should be used with this inventory.

 

2X Super Sets

 

1X Enhance Excalibur/SGS

 

200X Natures

 

1000X Fires

 

1X Cannonball

 

1X Mud rune

 

1X Law rune

 

1X Coin (placeholder)

 

1X Empty spot

 

10X Monkfish

 

1X Each type of Charm

 

 

 

 

Best inventory, fighting familiars boost exp/hour about 15k-20k. If bunyips are wanted, replace the pouches, I like using bunyips cause it uses less food.

 

2X Super Sets

 

6X Monkfish

 

1X Each type of Charm

 

1X Enhance Excal/SGS

 

200X Natures

 

1000X Fires

 

1X Cannonball

 

1X Mud rune

 

1X Law rune

 

1X Coin (placeholder)

 

1X Empty spot

 

1X Summoning Potion(2)

 

3X Fighting Familiar of choice[/hide]

 

 

 

[hide=How to get there?]How to get there!

 

Step 1 Getting to the Chaos Tunnels (CT)

 

 

 

 

(Credits go to Runescape Wiki)

 

Path 1, Orange- Combat Brace tele to monastery and Alch brace, then continue to CT.

 

Path 2. Green- Glory Tele to Edgeville and Run to CT

 

Path 3. Cyan- Start in G.E, go through agility shortcut and continue to CT

 

Path 4. Gold- Games necklace Tele to Wildy Volcano, bank and walk to CT

 

 

 

 

 

Step 2 Getting to the Zombies/Skeletons

 

 

 

 

 

 

After you go down the rope, you will get to the number 1. Go through the portal that I have circled in yellow.

 

WELCOME TO THE SKELETON/ZOMBIE ROOM ADVENTURER!!

 

[Killing is best done on a 1500+ world][/hide]

 

 

 

[hide=Killing]How to kill them Undead

 

First, when you walk in, you *Will* get swamped, note, in the picture it's been 3 secs and my hp went down by 24, this can happen rarely sometimes so be prepared

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now you have to walk to the place right here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You will then pot up and stand in this place to minimize damage and let auto retaliate do the work for you. Read a book for 5 minutes, go back to rs, spec with spec weapon, and pot up, pick up drops/charms, alch. back to reading. If you wanted, you could piety flash, but that would take too much concentration. If you were really lazy, you could just pot+spec.[/hide]

 

[hide=Note]Notice how only 2 Zombies/Skeletons can attack me at one time? This way, I can switch between two things attacking me at the same time, same as Zombie Monkeys. But better, notice the difference between the first screenshot and second screenshot. That was loot of 3 mins while getting the screenshot. Also, when stepping out to get drops, alch the items WHILE attacking because alching no longer stops attacking :thumbsup: , this shaves down on time a lot.

 

Also not picking up loot increases exp by about 6k/hour.

 

The things you alch all depend on you. (List is too long and Im too lazy)[/hide]

 

 

 

 

 

[hide=Aggression]Oh Noez! The Undead arent aggressive anymore!!!!!111!! WTF!!!

 

Calm down, there is a simple fix to that problem, follow the arrows on the picture.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Boom! Aggressive Zombies/Skeletons :) Every time the skeletons/zombies go non-aggressive, do this and then go afk for the next 10 minutes. After trip is done, Teleport to Ardy with the mud runes and law runes youve collected.[/hide]

 

 

 

[hide=Credits+Calculations]Credits are 100% Matthew20141

 

Yes I am a girl in the setups

 

I was doing recruitment drive.

 

 

 

Now for calculations

 

In 1 hour I got a total of 32,404 in Atk/Str/Def potting every 5 levels.

 

32,404*3=97,202 Experience/hour without piety flash or

 

Combat familiar and picking up all the drops!

 

I got this at 89/91/89

 

Pray can also be used here for piety and even more exp.

 

Not picking up drops is also another way to get exp up.[/hide]

 

 

 

I *have* gotten a skeleton champion scroll here so :)

[The_Great_One]

A good guide, but the low hitpoints of them makes this a bit not-so-good for higher levels.

 

AZ's were crowded as [Cabbage]

Um, no they're not.... :shock: It's easy as [cabbage] to find a world for them. And they're alot better, but if you get bored and as such read mags and whatnot, then you should do slayer.

 

 

 

Still, a good guide, and I imagine it's good for low-ish levels.

[matthew20141]

"Slayer Sucks"~Compfreak

 

No the redeeming thing about this place is the ability to afk. Just drink a dose of pot, excal spec, and your set to go for 5 mins. you don't even need to pick up drops.

[muggiwhplar]

I used to train there... decent charm drops. I still find Monkey Zombies to be significantly faster XP, though.

[Inuashakent]

115k xp/hour? Are you sure...? If so, this is one of the best 4 training spots...

[Great_one]

i sure will be using this :thumbsup:

[mrpadre]

Can Void be used? Or do they hit too often?

[sants5]

Can Void be used? Or do they hit too often?

 

Sure u can, but u need protection prayer :D. Oh and btw, they drop lots of blue charms, more than any other monster i now

[matthew20141]

115k xp/hour? Are you sure...? If so, this is one of the best 4 training spots...

 

 

 

 

 

To get 115k/exp hour you'll need a familiar to help you, max without would be id assume 105k/hour maxed stats no pray and since my melee stats are 89atk/90str/89def....97k/hour without familiar...

 

 

 

 

 

BTW what are the 4 best training spots?

[Inuashakent]

Zombie monkies, Armored zombies, and the skeletons you chin. Add this and it would be 4.

[matthew20141]

Ok, Don't forget rock lobs, Best charms in game.

[Inuashakent]

Ok, Don't forget rock lobs, Best charms in game.

 

That's magic. I'm talking about for xp/drops, general training.

[Cantristenon]

Got my skeleton champion scroll in this exactly same place before this guide was posted. I used dharoking with combat familiar, though, worked pretty fine too. Sgs healed me about enough. Liked charm drops definitely.

[matthew20141]

I've tried dharoking here before, I found that It's better to dharok at Zombie Monkies due to:

 

A-Zombies & Skeles have less health so you are not getting max exp/hour

 

B-Zombies & Skeles CAN get lucky on you and hit up to 30+ in a streak

 

 

 

However, you could try dharoking with a whip to finish off low hp monsters.

[JoeDaStudd]

No offense but those rates seem bs.

 

I've had a quick test with 5% prayer, obby golem and was getting far less exp then at AZ's.

[abbydog95]

These things cant be 115K xp/hour.....and these monsters have low hp....not so good for high lvs...AZ's are better than these + Monkey Zombies are better, alright guide.

[Championfurydelta123]

NEXT TIME I COME HERE I BRINING FULL BARROWS! THEY HIT HARD AS (CABBAGE!)!

 

 

 

Good guide though :)

[matthew20141]

No offense but those rates seem bs.

 

I've had a quick test with 5% prayer, obby golem and was getting far less exp then at AZ's.

 

 

 

First pot up every 5 mins

 

Then pick up drops smartly, don't lose time picking em up

 

Piety flash if its not enough

 

If all the above does not work for you

 

Then go back to az's which ARE faster

[JoeDaStudd]

 

Now for calculations

 

In 1 hour I got a total of 32,404 in Atk/Str/Def potting every 5 levels.

 

32,404*3=97,202 Experience/hour without piety flash or

 

Combat familiar and picking up all the drops!

 

I got this at 89/91/89

 

Pray can also be used here for piety and even more exp.

 

Not picking up drops is also another way to get exp up.

 

Ok if that was 100% true then with void, piety and a combat familiar it would be 30%+5 to 15k more exp.

 

So your talking (97+30%)+15=141k exp per hour max if it was true. Thats a good 25k/hour more then the current best exp in combat.

 

So with maxed stats not picking up the drops, void (pray melee), piety, pure sets and combat familiar you could be getting 150k+ per hour.

 

See how it looks like its unreasonable.

 

 

 

The hp of these is 2 hits per kill at pretty much any level.

 

In a perfect world say you always hit 30's with salve (e).

 

Az's would waste 20 exp per kill, zombie monkeys 0 exp per kill these 36 to 88 exp per kill. The lost exp being the difference between the finishing hit and a full hit.

 

Seems like given the hp it might be better to use a GS here then normal training weapon.

 

 

 

PS. I wasn't randomly picking up drops, I was using the 5% prayer and potting every time my stats dropped to 10 less then there normal (which is about every 4/5 minutes).

[001hayden1]

Might check this out, if it's good ima use it for 20/50m def exp 8-)

 

 

 

1 question though, wtf is with the cannonball?

[dubcit]

 

 

 

1 question though, wtf is with the cannonball?

 

 

 

 

 

they drop them and its a place holder

[ipkjooo]

These are great :)

 

 

 

I was ranging them yesterday with cheap tank gear and I lasted about an hour an half. (Using a bull ant with 9 p'apple pizzas)

 

 

 

Gear was :

 

D med

 

Glory

 

D legs

 

Bronze Knives

 

Granite Shield

 

Dragon Boots

 

Black Hide Vambs

 

Black Hide Chest

 

Archers Rings

 

Im also 75defence using super defence pots

 

 

 

I managed about 50k an hour at 80 range potting up at 85.

 

 

 

I also got 17 blue charms over two trips (3 hours total)

[totalpwnage]

its NOT 115k exp an hour, 90 att 99 str with a familiar and pray I got like 90k an hour.

[Scouterzach1]

With my stats i get 117k/hour at monkey zombies and 117k>115k

 

This is training str with sara sword and +10% str prayer.