Interesting Wilderness Find?

[strilmus]

Before whatever age that Zaros rose up to power in, both the desert and the lands of Morytania were all forest. Or at least, large parts of it was. It pains me to think of all the woodcutting potential the area used to have.

[walka92]

interesting, but i dont see the wilderness ever being terribly furtile. ever

 

also, next time, could you put the image in a hide box? it stops the page from stretching for everyone that way

[strilmus]

Well, at one point, it was fertile, but of course the wars scorched everything.

 

 

 

It seems that there is something else trying to hold back the reclamation of land by nature, but for the most part even the most scarred earth holds nutrients for plants.

[Dognapalm]

Not leaves! My entire Wilderness experience has been completely ruined!

[Hippodo]

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I think those trees with three or four leaves on 'em have been there the whole time, but it's a neat idea though. I've always liked the idea of 'curing' Morytania from its evils, and see it returning to its former glory.

 

 

 

Yeah that'd be cool.

 

 

 

But other than the vampire overlords and a few other ill intented creatures there's not alot to cure.

 

 

 

Unlike the wilderness there no reference to it ever psychically changing, it's always been swampy.

 

Mort Myre used to be a forest instead of a swamp.

 

 

 

 

 

Where does it say that?

 

 

 

There references of it as a swamp as far back as the god wars and I don;t think I've seen any pre-godwars mentions of it.

 

I've heard references that imply the Haunted Wood was a nice forest once, but nothing about Mort Myre not being, Myre/Swamp

 

 

 

It was in a tome from the Darkness of Hallowvale quest. Hallowvale used to be a woody place with an Icyene queen in what is now Castle Draken. When the vampyres arrived, the land became corrupted.

 

 

 

It is also implied that the fate of Misthalin will be the same of Morytania (Hallowvale) if the vampyre overlords and their minions breach Paterdomus. In one quest, two werewolves escaped Morytania and attacked you.

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Hallowvale is not mort myre though.

 

 

 

Hippo mentioned Mort Myre referred to as being a forest and he tends to be epically good at his history of rs, though I am pretty good too so we do sometimes prove the other slightly wrong.

 

 

 

I think using your reference to Hallowvale you're thinking of Morytanina in general, this is very specific to Mort Myre.

 

Equally the Haunted wood ajoins to Hallowvale whihc suggest tht it is the forest tht tome refers to.

 

Plus I forgot to mention before swamp and corrupt don;t go hand in hand, after all lumbridge swamp isn't corrupt.

 

You have a point Paw Claw. I've been searching through the tomes Serephurus was talking about, and found this:

 

 

 

It is said that before the dark lord Drakan arrived in Morytania, a very different land existed. A green land, pleasant and bounteous. Sufficient to please hundreds of farmers, and to supply large towns, villages and cities with food. there is little information to support this idea, but there are hints that this land had not always been the darkened and dreadful place it now appears to be.

 

 

 

This at least confirms Morytania used to be a whole lot healthier. It still doesn't say anything about Mort Myre existing back then, I agree. But I distinctly remember reading a piece of text about Mort Myre once being a lush forest, and that it was corrupted to a dirty swamp. Something to do with Drakan temporarily raising the sea to flood the land. And I know it doesn't count for much, but the RuneScape Wiki agrees with me :mrgreen:.

 

 

 

To summarize it, I can't find much about it in any book or tome regarding Morytania I remember. Maybe later today or tomorrow I will reread the dialogue of every Myreque Quest, and see if they mention it there. I should be able to find them on YouTube.

 

 

 

EDIT: It could also be in a letter from the Postbag...

[Drakolord7]

Not trying to conspire too much but,mabyee...just mabye,the closer zaros has come to returning to gelinor has caused the wilderness to retain the life it had in the 3rd age. :idea:

 

that would be extremly cool

 

 

 

But Zaros wasn't around in the Third Age

[whocares]

Trees can be dead and have some leaves left...

[Sy_Accursed]

Not trying to conspire too much but,mabyee...just mabye,the closer zaros has come to returning to gelinor has caused the wilderness to retain the life it had in the 3rd age. :idea:

 

that would be extremly cool

 

 

 

But Zaros wasn't around in the Third Age

 

 

 

Zaros 'died' second age, but the wilderness was still green and lush into the third age.

 

 

 

It got scarred and torn by the godwars DURING the third age, which was AFTER Zaros had gone.

 

 

 

In fact most evidence would suggest the wilderness was mostly damaged quite late in the god wars, with a suggestion a lot of the damage came from when Guthix used to Stone of Jas (thus creating the fist of guthix) to forecfully end the war.

[Dirkmetal]

Trees can be dead and have some leaves left...

 

Trees that have been dead for thousands of years can have green leaves?

[Sy_Accursed]

Trees can be dead and have some leaves left...

 

Trees that have been dead for thousands of years can have green leaves?

 

 

 

A tree that is dead with disintegrate and collapses within a few weeks, heck even the giant red woods will of literally vanished within a year if they die.

 

 

 

However a "dead" tree in the slangly no literal way tht we assume it and Jagex uses it. Is not LITERALLY dead, it's still alive jsut dormant or badly hurt. Much like most trees and plants "die" back for the winter, they are not literally dead they are just dormant. And how if you move a tree or plant it may sit there dormant for the whole summer but then next year it'll be green again.

 

 

 

These dead tree are jsut badly scared and wounded, so they are still alive inside and thus can grow leaves. Equally it was jsut a graphic update tht changed some models to have a few leaves, to be mroe realistic its not like they have literally grown.