What a dull game

[Me_Hate_Libs]

No, not Runescape. World of Warcraft. My RS membership recently ran out, and I've taken a long break from RS. Half because I probably need it, the other half because over the next few months until this damned "upgrade" year is over, when I get back there might actually be a smidgeon of new content for me to play.

 

 

 

But anyway, WoW has a trial that you can do and I did it. Okay, it has graphics. Yippee-O.

 

 

 

The rest of the game is flat and boring. You can only have 2 primary skills, and they have 3 secondary skills that are pretty lame. The whole game is combat based.

 

 

 

And not only combat based, but group combat based. If you've played this game, you can see how much they go out of their way to discourage anyone from playing the game solo. 80% of the monsters are aggressive and if one thing attaks you, it pulls a whole group with it to kill you. Wow, that's fun.

 

 

 

The quests are one of three things. Bring something to someone, retrieve something from someone, kill something for something. Now they can be 2 or all 3 of those things in one quest, but that's all it is. Again, flat and one dimensional.

 

 

 

And they just blow out the crap with characters and monsters, having insane amounts of hp and hits. I mean the whole thing is on the same scale, but instead of being able to hit 20-30s on a creature with 200 hp, they do this nonsense of it having 20000 hp and you're hitting with you hitting 2-3k off of them. Maybe they do it cause 14 year old love hitting big numbers.

 

 

 

I honestly don't see the appeal of this game. If I groveled at the altar of combat and maybe felt that I shouldn't do anything on a game unless I'm with 4 other people at the same time I might like it, but as someone who enjoys some kind of variety in a game and likes to occasionally be by myself when I play, not for me.

 

 

 

I won't have an online game force me to interact with other people. Why I don't play many RS minigames.

[Omali]

Warcraft has thousands of pages of lore and history. World of Warcraft took that lore and murdered it, then held its corpse for all to see.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

Oh yeah, it has great lore, but I don't consider that a part of the game. The lore is on their website, not so much in the game. It would be like walking up to the Chaso Elemental ingame and asking him about some future updates.

 

 

 

The game itself only has graphics and movement. Everything else is very substandard, unoriginal, and boring. And if you think people are protective about their Runescape, try scoping the WoW forums. Never seen so many out of work 30 year olds living with their mothers defending their pathetic existence.

[Omali]

The game itself only has graphics and movement. Everything else is very substandard, unoriginal, and boring. And if you think people are protective about their Runescape, try scoping the WoW forums. Never seen so many out of work 30 year olds living with their mothers defending their pathetic existence.

 

 

 

WoW attempts to appeal to as many as humanly possible, and as a result it's been slowly dumbed down and made easier over the years.

[nerdattack16]

I enjoyed it, but only because I played with a few friends and combat's basically all I do in RuneScape anyway. But it did get kind of dull for me. Quests are stupid and repetitive, skills weren't very fun for me, and I just lost interest.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

The game itself only has graphics and movement. Everything else is very substandard, unoriginal, and boring. And if you think people are protective about their Runescape, try scoping the WoW forums. Never seen so many out of work 30 year olds living with their mothers defending their pathetic existence.

 

 

 

WoW attempts to appeal to as many as humanly possible, and as a result it's been slowly dumbed down and made easier over the years.

 

 

 

Yeah, cause Runescape hasn't, lol :roll:

 

 

 

Not to mention, 15 dollars a month? Are you serious? For that crap? I mean every update is the exact same thing as before, only with higher stats.

 

 

 

I asked on the forums, and I was quite nice about it considering I was new to the game, if the game is essentially the same at lvl 70-80 as it is at lvl 10-20, with the monsters, quests, and so forth. When they said it was, I repled that that was kinda lame.

 

 

 

From the response I got you would've thought I has burned an effigy of Jesus and raped a teenaged girl dressed up to look like the Virgin Mary.

[khandajatt]

lol WoW is only got for raid when you max out, thats when the fun starts

[Mico]

WoW has medicore graphics (yes medicore, I' ve seen better graphics on Asian MMORPG' s), over inflated weapons and armour that just looks dangerous to even touch with all those [bleep]es and sharp edges, a combat system no different that of any other game (actually, I can also find more appealing fights elsewhere), but with a bit more lights and flashes (oooh, sparkly combat), doing quests is like going to work, you just do the same thing over and over, just the numbers are a bit different and you can [bleep] off to a female night elf if you take all her clothes off and make her dance.

 

 

 

That' s it. That' s WoW. Did I miss anything?

 

 

 

Oh yea, and the only reason it' s so damn popular it' s because it' s WoW. That' s it. Like Starbucks, over inflated prices for something you can do better and 10x cheaper at home. Yes, you actually can make yourself coffe for less than 5$. Amazing huh?

[Omali]

Oh yea, and the only reason it' s so damn popular it' s because it' s WoW. That' s it. Like Starbucks, over inflated prices for something you can do better and 10x cheaper at home. Yes, you actually can make yourself coffe for less than 5$. Amazing huh?

 

 

 

Regular coffee isn't over-inflated at Starbucks, you can get a pretty big cup for under 2 bucks. It's the foofy drinks that cost way too much.

 

 

 

I can get a medium ice-cap for 2.99 at Tim Hortons. Sure, I can make it myself for cheaper, but it won't have the heroin laced cream that Timmy [garden tool]'s uses.

[Mico]

Oh yea, and the only reason it' s so damn popular it' s because it' s WoW. That' s it. Like Starbucks, over inflated prices for something you can do better and 10x cheaper at home. Yes, you actually can make yourself coffe for less than 5$. Amazing huh?

 

 

 

Regular coffee isn't over-inflated at Starbucks, you can get a pretty big cup for under 2 bucks. It's the foofy drinks that cost way too much.

 

 

 

I can get a medium ice-cap for 2.99 at Tim Hortons. Sure, I can make it myself for cheaper, but it won't have the heroin laced cream that Timmy [garden tool]'s uses.

 

 

 

It was more or less just a comparison that you can get a lot more from Runescape at a much lower price, just that it isn' t covered in flashy graphics. I myself have no idea what the price is, nor how much you can get for the price nor do I know where a Starbucks café is here.

 

 

 

What do I care really, I don' t drink coffee :D . But I think you' re smart enough to know what I' m getting at here. Your witty comments that far exceed anything most of us can write sure do suggest to an educated mind. And I really love reading what you write when you use sarcasm or just blantly bash a post or topic. Brightens a rainy day.

 

 

 

P.S. no sarcasm used in the above post, I really do ejoy reading witty coments :

[Me_Hate_Libs]

That, and combat is also overly complicated. All the hotkeys and stuff. I'm much happier to keep it much simpler.

[Omali]

It was more or less just a comparison that you can get a lot more from Runescape at a much lower price, just that it isn' t covered in flashy graphics. I myself have no idea what the price is, nor how much you can get for the price nor do I know where a Starbucks café is here.

 

 

 

What do I care really, I don' t drink coffee :D . But I think you' re smart enough to know what I' m getting at here.

 

 

 

I work right next to a Starbucks and naturally I've become an addict to said foofy drinks (I spend maybe 100 bucks a month on Starbucks) because they kept bringing me free samples when they first opened.

 

 

 

Your witty comments that far exceed anything most of us can write sure do suggest to an educated mind. And I really love reading what you write when you use sarcasm or just blantly bash a post or topic. Brightens a rainy day.

 

 

 

Well I do have a group of fans and foes that can't be let down.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

Oh yeah, one more thing to add.

 

 

 

You die. Constantly.

[Mico]

That being said, I still don' t know if this rant will survive. I mean it isn' t a Runescape related rant, could be moved to the Debate club. This is a rant about WoW, while Runescape is only being shown in a good way.

 

 

 

Hm. Off topic sounds better, the Debate club is still RS related. Hmmm...

 

 

 

Best turn on the Modlight, the super-human powers of a Tif Moderator are needed on this one.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

That being said, I still don' t know if this rant will survive. I mean it isn' t a Runescape related rant, could be moved to the Debate club. This is a rant about WoW, while Runescape is only being shown in a good way.

 

 

 

Hm. Off topic sounds better, the Debate club is still RS related. Hmmm...

 

 

 

Best turn on the Modlight, the super-human powers of a Tif Moderator are needed on this one.

 

 

 

I don't want to show Runescape in a good light. I only tryed WoW because of this BS upgrade year that's resulted in very little for me to do.

 

 

 

Hopefully in 2010 we'll be done with the upgrades and the content team will be over their bout of Minigame Madness.

 

 

 

Better yet, to anyone who gets it, I'm going to refer to it as Runescape 2009: The "Upgrayedd" Year

[Mico]

Off-topic:

 

Isn' t Upgrayedd the pimp of that hooker who was the test subject along with the most average soldier in the U.S. Army, and they were frozen in "time capsules", just to be defrosted in the far off year of 2000 something-something, only for the dude to become the smartest president in known history with the hooker by his side as the smartest first woman in known history and they had the three smartest kids in history?

 

 

 

From the film Idiocracy?

 

 

 

On-topic:

 

 

 

Oh yea, I forgot that you ranted about the dreaded Year of Upgrades.

[fenrir321]

Any mmorpg you play will emphasize team work in at least a few areas of the game. If you want to be by yourself and not have to work with anyone but still want to play fantasy based games, I suggest the Tales series for wii, ps2, and gc. You could also go Oblivion or Fable 2.

 

 

 

But really, you cannot just compare runescape with WoW. Their mechanics are so different, trying to compare them yields less results than apples to oranges. For example, death. Death in WoW causes you to either lose durability in a world death or none in pvp. In Rs, you either lose your items or you keep them. The former allows the player to "safely risk" their hard won items against monsters and allows death to be about as much as a commodity as food to us is. Unless you 1, 3, or 4 item, you will lose your items, which makes players think twice about their limits. I would never try to solo a GWD boss with all of my armor. I would gladly walk up to Illidan and type: /y YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!!! and then run around like a screaming two year old until I died...twice in full epics. There are several single links to "Death" that basically dictate the mechanics of the overall game. the best example between death and X is gear. World of warcraft = world of gearcraft. Relatively speaking, a lvl 138 and a lvl 138 in rune and barrows respectively have a relatively even match. It is not uncommon for a person in rune plate to beat a person in guthans (both with a whip). If you have full blue items and you fight someone with full purple, you WILL lose. I don't care if they're a noob and you're leet, you WILL lose. Well, unless they disconnect.

 

 

 

I could go on with the stark contrasts, but I won't.

 

 

 

Instead, I'll reply to those saying WoW is boring and it's unoriginal:

 

WoW appeals to a wide range of players, from hardcore to casual. It also places them into the same blender and pushes the button. What you get is a highly critical fanbase about everything else. If you so much as ask an "obvious" question, you will have more people just laughing at you and posting spam than you would say on rs or here (I blame the American based attitude since we're supposedly less refined than the British or other countries) There is less moderation on the forums and thus gives way to both positive and negative trolling, though the main reason is probably that there is no page 51 monster, so Blizzard can soak up trolling spam/jokes. Back to the criticism. Casual gamers cannot and should not raid. They lack the motivation and asperity to realize that 9 other people are depending on them 100% of the time to be at full capacity of the stereotypical class. They don't expect you to be at the top of your game but to maximize your class' potential 100% of the time. Some leaders are just plain [cabbage]s though. They think they know everything when really they're just as clueless as the newbie hunter.

 

 

 

WoW is boring to some because it pushes teamwork more so than a lot of games. However, this is for practicality reasons. You can just glance at the corporeal beast and see the limit of a single player. With raids, there is no limit to the difficulty "cap" except memory for having 25 or more people in a single instance running several instances at the same time. The quests are actually quite interesting if you're a geek like me. I did all of the quests in a single area and I could recite the context of armies, the groups, the area's history, etc in a blink of an eye. Try actually reading the text. And the only difference between WoW quests and Runescape quests is that the quests are simply "jobs" like in Lumbridge OR they are cut up pieces of rs quests. You could take the underground pass and turn that into a quest chain of about 10 quest links long, maybe 15.

 

 

 

To my knowledge, WoW was one of the first mmorpg's in existence. I believe it came out in '05, earlier than a bunch of those cardboard cut outs. Rule of thumb: if the game has action bars and moves with arrow keys or wasd, it's most likely a rip off of WoW. Probably FFX is the "original" seeing as how Devious MUD wasn't a true mmo and rsc in '01 was hardly "massive". I've thought of playing FFX, but never really got around to doing it. But from the wiki article, it sounds like Tales series put in multi player perspective.

 

 

 

 

 

As for my final note, I want to ask the OP, why he does not like working with other people. If you actually look at the endgame content in Rs, it was team based, even before WoW with the KBD. I guess the main difference between wow and rs encounters would be:

 

In rs you work together for enjoyment

 

In WoW you work together to advance

 

When some people are just plain idiots and can't follow simple instructions (you think BA noobs are bad? Please...), it makes you want to stab them through the internet. That makes me rather play runescape, but when you get in a group of people who know what they are doing, dungeons are quite enjoyable. As for the big numbers, it's most likely scaling issues. Like the military, you are expected to gain more stats for an invisible "survivability timer" and "kill timer". If you attack a mob who has 50 hp and you have 5 dps, it will take the same amount of time to kill a monster of 4,900,000 hp if you have 490k dps. If there was no scaling in WoW, then you'd be killing Arthas for aesthetics seeing as how the gear you get upon leaving the starting area would be the same as the gear from looting his scourge corpse.

 

 

 

Scaling is also a part of life. As you grow older, you are expected to have more responsibility because of the "standard". There are a few very important life examples: military, jobs, management in particular, parenting, any other job that grows as time passes.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

You didn't really dispute what I had to say. You simply replied that the things I find boring or annoying about the game, you like. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

 

 

 

And just because something is a ripoff of something else, doesn't mean the original is any better. I mean, there's a third Van Wilder movie and the first one was completely awful.

[Ravenkana]

Wrong, frickin', forum. WoW has absolutely nothing to do with Runescape, and it makes you appear childish to complain about it on a forum for Runescape in game rants. If it wasn't, I'd be ranting about the floating briefcase bug in TF2.

 

 

 

I very much enjoy WoW. Better customer support, combat requires strategy and some intelligence, the censor is far less invasive, you're more likely to play with others, I don't worry about bugs destroying all that I've worked so hard for, and having only two primary skills allows the price of goods to remain somewhat high because not everyone is producing them.

 

 

 

And you complain about how combat centric WoW is. Well, here's news for you buddy: so is Runescape. Most everything that every skill produces somehow leads back to the woefully archaic combat system. You may enjoy skilling, but the majority of the stuff you produce, unless it's obsolete, will be used in combat.

[Grogthurk]

Alright,

 

 

 

I got 3 chars to 70 (Pre-WOTLK)

 

 

 

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Questing is just grinding in WoW. You talk to NPCs betwen monsters you "quest" amirite?

[Me_Hate_Libs]

It's a rant forum, and it's tie to Runescape is that WoW, in comparison to the game, is woefully one dimensional. The game is bland, unless you want to kill bosses. If not, you got nothing else to do.

 

 

 

And yes, Runescape is combat based a good bit too, but I can go for hours without having to fight in Runescape. As far as playing with other people, I don't want to! I don't want to associate with pther people on that deep a level. I accept playing in and around with other people, but Runescape doesn't force you to deal with them all the time. I can do about 80-90 percent of stuff on RS by myself.

 

 

 

And on RS if I die, at least I don't have to respawn where I died, and die all over again. That's a lovely chain of things to do 7 or 8 times in a row.

 

 

 

Also, in WoW, they put in motorcycles. That's it. Case closed.

[Sir_Kurity]

Ive played wow, and its basically just endless killing, at least this game has skills, and some semi-half decent quests which differ from "kill 10 bears and get back to me"

[Me_Hate_Libs]

Ive played wow, and its basically just endless killing, at least this game has skills, and some semi-half decent quests which differ from "kill 10 bears and get back to me"

 

 

 

If only they were all kill the 10 bears. Gotta love the bring me 8 something or others from creatures that drop it 10% of the time and when you attack 1, 2 more will jump out to attack you as well.

[quelmotz]

So that "wonderful" game everyone seems to play is just another "kill anything you see" game. Wow (no pun intended), how unoriginal. :roll:

 

 

 

What? Graphics, teamwork. Big deal.

 

 

 

Runescape is much more dynamic, it also requires teamwork, and its not just kill kill and more kill, despite poorer graphics.

 

 

 

Graphics mean nothing. Of course, a reasonable standard of graphics is necessary, but once you reach that level further improvements are redundant and a waste of time IMO. Especially if you have a big game to deal with.

 

 

 

And I laugh at that person who said WoW was one of the "earliest" MMORPGs. This forum is about Runescape, a game created about 4 years or more earlier. :roll:

 

 

 

I've never played the stupid game, costs too much, stupid, unoriginal, boring, kill, kill, kill, etc.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

I'm going to repeat this because it bears repeating.

 

 

 

WoW has motorcycles. Shark jumped. :x