What a dull game

[Woozie]

World of Warcraft did unfortunately kill the fantastic Warcraft-lore. :thumbdown: The game itself is rather crap (I've been playing since beta until recently :? ) and after repeating the stuff you do four times it becomes dull, yeah. Warcraft was at it's peak in Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne, when Arthas became the Lich King.

[BlueLancer]

I also played it in 2004-2005 (also took part in closed alpha-testing), found the game to be extremely boring and, like you said, two-dimensional (gameplay-wise, not graphics). The only reason I see anybody sticking with the game is because they are addicted to seeing animated models made by underpaid korean freelancers make the same death and slash animations over & over again.. Getting tiny image sprites with coloured text descriptions as a reward.

 

 

 

The quests have also always been boring in WoW. Fetch me that item. Kill that guy. There is absolutely no depth or real storyline, it's stunning how it's become one of the most played, if not the most played MMORPG's on the market. Or maybe kids just want to play what 'everyone else' is playing. Although it does also have a community of older players.

 

 

 

The grinding really feels like you're "going to work in the morning". It's actually more boring than a real life job. A huge number of the players are also antisocial, appear to have narcissistic personality disorder, are extremely hostile and use dumb jokes to attack other players verbally... Some people like this alternate reality though, I don't judge them. A lot of my friends say they solely play for the best items and raiding. When they achieve everything they just quit.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

Wait, I'm antisocial, extremely hostile, and use very dumb jokes.... what does that mean? I should be playing WoW?

[Harakiri]

WoW: If you enjoy fetch quests and monster hunting quests...this is your game.

 

 

 

I can't play WoW because the quests are so boring. There is so much lore and stuff behind it, but from what I played, it seems like they kind of say "Screw being the big hero of the land, let them be the guy to depend on to fetch three crates of oranges".

[Ravenkana]

WoW: If you enjoy fetch quests and monster hunting quests...this is your game.

 

 

 

I can't play WoW because the quests are so boring. There is so much lore and stuff behind it, but from what I played, it seems like they kind of say "Screw being the big hero of the land, let them be the guy to depend on to fetch three crates of oranges".

You're not really a big hero, just another agent of the Horde/Alliance. Particularly not in the beginning.

[NotoriousPSC]

I've heard this from other WoW people.

[Tim_Tam_Tan_Tien]

Oh yeah, one more thing to add.

 

 

 

You die. Constantly.

 

 

 

You die constantly if you are stupid. You pull a whole group of mobs if you are stupid.

 

 

 

If you don't enjoy something, don't do it. Nobody is forcing you to quit Rs and play another Mmo.

 

 

 

To the "only 2 professions and 3 secondary professions", if you actually played the game you would understand how important they are. Having every profession would decimate the economy. Think about nobody needing anything else from anyone.

 

 

 

Personally I like the armour. It looks much better than the crap they plonk on you in Runescape. "zomg new armurz ftw, its teh same az meh old armurz but difernt COLOR!!!112"

 

The exception being endgame armour where it starts to look okay, like bandos and barrows.

 

 

 

The big hits are cool. it may be just me, but i don't like hitting 1's and 2's at lvl 110+

 

 

 

The content is all the same? Oh me, oh my! I seem to recall a certain company putting in underdevolped minigame after underdeveloped minigame instead of doing something fresh. I would have been happy if they stopped making minigames after Castle Wars ( except maybe SC, that was kinda cool )

 

 

 

Yes, the entire game is based around combat, but so what? Many people play it for the action factor. Instead of chopping a bad graphic tree all day, why not slap around slightly better-graphiced monsters all day?

 

 

 

Wrapping up, if you hate getting into groups (which you dont need to except for maybe 2-3 group quests per zone near endgame) then roll a Paladin. More specifically a [developmentally delayed]in. Go on a WoW forum and ask if [developmentally delayed]ins are good, you'll get the idea.

 

 

 

I guess WoW and Runescape are just two completely different games. Comparing them is like comparing Mars bars to Snickers. Yes they are both great, but completely different and unique in their own ways. Some people like out of this world flavour, and some like nuts.

[funnisam]

 

I guess WoW and Runescape are just two completely different games. Comparing them is like comparing Mars bars to Snickers. Yes they are both great, but completely different and unique in their own ways. Some people like out of this world flavour, and some like nuts.

 

 

 

Snickers = Mars bar + peanuts

 

 

 

Not that great a difference ;) unless you have a nut allergy :D

[3hitm4g3u]

I haven't been in combat for like two weeks. Been skilling straight.

 

 

 

I got alot of problems with Runescape but one thing I admire and have always admired is the variety in what you can do.

[Harakiri]

WoW: If you enjoy fetch quests and monster hunting quests...this is your game.

 

 

 

I can't play WoW because the quests are so boring. There is so much lore and stuff behind it, but from what I played, it seems like they kind of say "Screw being the big hero of the land, let them be the guy to depend on to fetch three crates of oranges".

You're not really a big hero, just another agent of the Horde/Alliance. Particularly not in the beginning.

 

 

 

Well how is that exciting? At least in RS you are a hero, not a disciple or slave to some King.

[Ravenkana]

WoW: If you enjoy fetch quests and monster hunting quests...this is your game.

 

 

 

I can't play WoW because the quests are so boring. There is so much lore and stuff behind it, but from what I played, it seems like they kind of say "Screw being the big hero of the land, let them be the guy to depend on to fetch three crates of oranges".

You're not really a big hero, just another agent of the Horde/Alliance. Particularly not in the beginning.

 

 

 

Well how is that exciting? At least in RS you are a hero, not a disciple or slave to some King.

But it adds a bit more realism as you see hundreds of other characters of your power or higher. Even when you save the world or take down a powerful enemy you do it in a group.

 

 

 

But in Runescape you're a single powerful hero who's saved significant chunks of the world many times. Despite the fact that there are thousands of OTHER identical heroes, running around doing the same.

[Tim_Tam_Tan_Tien]

WoW: If you enjoy fetch quests and monster hunting quests...this is your game.

 

 

 

I can't play WoW because the quests are so boring. There is so much lore and stuff behind it, but from what I played, it seems like they kind of say "Screw being the big hero of the land, let them be the guy to depend on to fetch three crates of oranges".

You're not really a big hero, just another agent of the Horde/Alliance. Particularly not in the beginning.

 

 

 

Well how is that exciting? At least in RS you are a hero, not a disciple or slave to some King.

 

 

 

You have to start somwhere. You can't just one day decide to rid the world of evil....imagine trying to do monkey madness at lvl 3. And in Runescape its the same, get me 10 balls of wool, get me an egg flour and milk, go get 2 halves of a sheild..

[Sir_Kurity]

WoW: If you enjoy fetch quests and monster hunting quests...this is your game.

 

 

 

I can't play WoW because the quests are so boring. There is so much lore and stuff behind it, but from what I played, it seems like they kind of say "Screw being the big hero of the land, let them be the guy to depend on to fetch three crates of oranges".

You're not really a big hero, just another agent of the Horde/Alliance. Particularly not in the beginning.

 

 

 

Well how is that exciting? At least in RS you are a hero, not a disciple or slave to some King.

But it adds a bit more realism as you see hundreds of other characters of your power or higher. Even when you save the world or take down a powerful enemy you do it in a group.

 

 

 

But in Runescape you're a single powerful hero who's saved significant chunks of the world many times. Despite the fact that there are thousands of OTHER identical heroes, running around doing the same.

 

 

 

Gertrude loses her cat lots?

 

 

 

Maybe she needs many heros =D.

[nerdboyxxx]

I played wow for about a month. Got to level 60, got some good gear from Outland when I played, then stopped. Cause I got so high in such a little amount of time for the freaking raids which everyone faps over, and they just ended up to be dungeons with more people and more enemies to kill. The game is a sink, honestly I can find better things to do on an Asian mmo (some of them are good, seriously). Raids take about 3 hours to do, and if you have something to do dueing the raid everyone just spam abuses you because you have a life. I can raid at level 40 if I want to, its essentially the same at level 60, just tougher opponents and bigger gear. The game definitely forces you to participate in group combat, which most people are okay with, until you get some 10-year old who doesn't know where f5 is on the freaking keyboard.

 

 

 

That been said, it has a good appeal to those who love combat, but in the end, the only solo thing you can do is world PvP, which gives a [cabbage] payout (no drops, only rank, which allows you access to better gear. But to get a good rank you need to go battlegrounds, yet more group activities. Yay.)

 

 

 

In the end, the entire game is a grind, only runescape gives you the option to grind skills or combat, which can be fun. I find combat gay anyways. And yeah, the o fans out there are really aggressive when you say [cabbage] about there game. Especially the little kids :ohnoes:

 

 

 

So, I have just ranted and vented my fustration. Feel free to quote me and give me [cabbage] as well. I don't really care

 

 

 

 

Personally I like the armour. It looks much better than the crap they plonk on you in Runescape. "zomg new armurz ftw, its teh same az meh old armurz but difernt COLOR!!!112"

 

The exception being endgame armour where it starts to look okay, like bandos and barrows.

 

 

 

The big hits are cool. it may be just me, but i don't like hitting 1's and 2's at lvl 110+

 

 

 

The content is all the same? Oh me, oh my! I seem to recall a certain company putting in underdevolped minigame after underdeveloped minigame instead of doing something fresh. I would have been happy if they stopped making minigames after Castle Wars ( except maybe SC, that was kinda cool )

 

 

 

Yes, the entire game is based around combat, but so what? Many people play it for the action factor. Instead of chopping a bad graphic tree all day, why not slap around slightly better-graphiced monsters all day?

 

 

 

I'm sorry but I have to rant. You are on a "Runescape" forum backing up WoW? That is irony for you. WoW is combat, so its the same. ITS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE SAME. JUST LIKE COMBAT IS GOING TO BE THE SAME ON RUNESCAPE.

 

 

 

WoW. you can kill enemies in the middle of nowhere as a group, or kill some badass as a group. Both combat. Raid. Combat. BG. Combat. Runescape, you kill monsters to train. Combat. You go gwd with a group. Combat. OR, you can skill, minigames, hang out, do whatever. WoW is either combat or professions (I maxed herblore profession while playing also, and it is not fun at all. Incredibly gay. Sure I made good cash, but its not worth it in the end because you can make heaps of cash raiding as well).

 

 

 

Unless you have the attention span of an amoeba and can bear to just fight your way through the entire game, getting better gear, then getting more awesome gear in the end to go PvP, then PvP for even BETTER gear, max out your best gear, and then quit, WoW is the game for you. Runescape, I find, gives more payout for spending a long time on training your skills. The amount of things you can do on a max total character on Runescape is phenomenal. WoW, at max level and best gear just means you can pwn until you kill yourself playing.

 

 

 

You CAN compare Runescape to WoW, they are the same genre of game and both have combat. But Runescape has more to offer than just combat. Oh my God is there more to offer!

 

 

 

So don't give crap to Runescape defending WoW. Like I said, you are all so bloody defensive of your game it drives me up the wall. So much [cabbage] is given to rs players and rs in general, do you hear us going "omfg @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@" on WoW forums? NO.

[Sir_Kurity]

Wow armor doesnt look all that amazing either.

[Tim_Tam_Tan_Tien]

Wow armor doesnt look all that amazing either.

 

Compared to Runescape? I think so..

 

 

 

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That been said, it has a good appeal to those who love combat, but in the end, the only solo thing you can do is world PvP, which gives a [cabbage] payout (no drops, only rank, which allows you access to better gear. But to get a good rank you need to go battlegrounds, yet more group activities. Yay.)

 

 

 

-World PvP solo? I'd like to see that. From what I've seen in WoW, yes it is very much a team game. Many of the obstacles you face would be impossible without a group to back you up. But that, in my opinion, makes it a great game. One of the reasons i quit Rs members was because it is an incredibly solo game. Wow, we got clan loot rules? They seem fair and all. Coin share? Not so great. Everything in Runescape ( albeit GWD, some bosses and minigames ) is meant to be for soloing. Sure we can interact and buy things, but its no a group game if it ends there. Also the guild system pales in comparison to WoW

 

 

 

 

 

In the end, the entire game is a grind, only runescape gives you the option to grind skills or combat, which can be fun.

 

 

 

-In the end. Runescape is a grind. How you dont see this i dont know. In WoW you can do the same things as you stated. You can train your professions, train combat, go into dungeons with friends, get a group together and experience world or battleground PvP. The options are as diverse as runescape's.

 

 

 

 

 

I find combat gay anyways.

 

 

 

- Everyone has a different opinion. This is probably why you didn't like WoW.

 

 

 

And yeah, the o fans out there are really aggressive when you say [cabbage] about there game. Especially the little kids :ohnoes:

 

 

 

- Excuse me? I was stating points to support WoW, i wasn't 'Getting Aggressive'. If anything you chucked the bigger sad here by posting to Vent some rage when i wasn't dissing runescape at all..

 

 

 

I'm sorry but I have to rant. You are on a "Runescape" forum backing up WoW? That is irony for you. WoW is combat, so its the same. ITS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE SAME. JUST LIKE COMBAT IS GOING TO BE THE SAME ON RUNESCAPE.

 

 

 

-Yes. Just like skills will always be the same on Runescape. Chop, Chop, Chop. Burn, Burn, Burn. Fish, Fish, Fish. And to compensate for the lack of skill based activities WoW's combat system is much better than,

 

1.Click

 

2.Wait

 

3.???

 

4.Profit!

 

 

 

Runescape, you kill monsters to train. Combat. You go gwd with a group. Combat. OR, you can skill, minigames, hang out, do whatever. WoW is either combat or professions

 

 

 

-You fail to mention that a vast majority of the minigames in Runescape involve, yeap you guessed it, combat. GWD, involves combat doesn't it? Then only thing that doesnt involve comabt in this sentence is Skilling. True, WoW IS combat based, but maybe that's because the whole world is at war Between eachother and the struggle to eliminate a tyrant king? Also WoW's version of minigames would include Dungeons or Battlegrounds.

 

 

 

The amount of things you can do on a max total character on Runescape is phenomenal. WoW, at max level and best gear just means you can pwn until you kill yourself playing.

 

 

 

-A max total character? Tell me what a max total character would do, hmm? Would they skill? not likely, they are maxed... Quest? for how long, maybe 50 quests maximum? Once you hit maxed total in Runescape, thats exactly what you are. Maxed. You aren't gonna go burn another 1k mages for fun once you hit 99 Fm. WoW only opens up once you hit the max lvl. All the lower lvls are basicly preparing you for what is to come.

 

 

 

You CAN compare Runescape to WoW, they are the same genre of game and both have combat. But Runescape has more to offer than just combat. Oh my God is there more to offer!

 

 

 

-Tell me how there is more to offer. WoW has battlegrounds (minigames), it has professions (skills), it has a vastly superior combat system, it has group dungeons and a GRAND EXCHANGE in nearly every city!

 

 

 

 

I would also like to add that the class and race thing really makes it awesome. In runescape you are all the same. Yes i know, "nO u k3n b3 4 r4ng3rr!!!1124", but in the end each person is exactly the same as the next, there are no advantages and disadvantages. This is probably why i found Runescape PvP so boring..

[nerdboyxxx]

 

I would also like to add that the class and race thing really makes it awesome. In runescape you are all the same. Yes i know, "nO u k3n b3 4 r4ng3rr!!!1124", but in the end each person is exactly the same as the next, there are no advantages and disadvantages. This is probably why i found Runescape PvP so boring..

 

 

 

Then why the [cabbage] are you still hanging around if you hate runescape so much? I don't get you people.

 

 

 

And the class thing is gay. It minimises the game, forcing you to play as all these different characters. Runescape allows the most versatility in any mmorpg in the world, completely throwing out the D&D rulebook which WoW follows to the grave (which makes it just like all the other mmo's out there. I can play Guild Wars for free, and its basically the same. Don't give me [cabbage] that it isn't, I play both Guild Wars and Runescape, and quit WoW because it was Guild Wars with gay $ 20 month fees in Australia).

 

 

 

So, in the end, WoW has a LOT of things wrong with it. And of course fanboys and girls fail to realise these and blindly defend it with their lives. It is just a grind as Runescape is, probably more if you want all the freaking gear. And the graphics suck for all the coding they put into that game. WotLK didn't improve them either, I've seen the game at max GFX settings.

 

 

 

And if Runescape is "nO u k3n b3 4 r4ng3rr!!!1124", WoW is "n0 omg I g0t epic mt fín awesome!!!11!11!!111!1!!111one," Only takes about ALL YOUR TIME. Runescape may be long too, It is probably the slowest levelling game in history apart from LC which is ridicuously slow, but you aren't in any rush. You are practically ordered by Blizzard to waste your life on the game to get the best gear possible. You have to anyway. 18 hours a day of BG a day for like 4 months to get the top rank and get that epic gear? NO FREAKING THANKYOU.

 

 

 

I'm not saying you are been aggressive. You don't have to be aggressive. But you're hanging around a forum FOR Runescape basically just doing...well, I dont know what the hell you're doing. If you quit, move on and play WoW. Doesn't bother me. Just don't blatantly protect WoW when you can play HUNDREDS of other games like it. Which is exactly why it is a failing market. All mmo's are the same. It's just a matter of what you prefer. Combat? Or combat? "Ski-" COMBAT?

 

 

 

Runescape is the only mmo out there to offer versatility. It is apart from all other mmo's. It is a market leader. As you can see by the some-80M people playing the game.

 

 

 

I bid you good-day, fanboy/girl (whichever you are...). I'm done arguing an endless point which will just revolve until we are about to make it a personal matter, and I am in no mood to argue about another mmo on a forum that has nothing to do with other games. Neither of us are going to give in anyway, we obviously have totally different points of view. Yaaaak,yaaaaak,yaaaak, I could give you a speech. I'll cut it sweet.

 

 

 

I dont really give a [cabbage].

[3hitm4g3u]

Saying everyone is the same on Runescape is moronic.

 

 

 

We have tons of player made classes.

[jijilentosmi]

Although I definatly Runescape more, World of Warcraft can be alot of fun. The reason I don't think Wow is as good as Runescape is after you max on WOW(which doesn't take that long) you run outta real interesting things to do, sure there are raids, but they are on time limts(normally once a week).

[Omali]

Runescape and WoW are very different storywise, and it's these differences that account for a lot of the ways the games play out.

 

 

 

In WoW, you're a small part of the war effort. You may get to do some stuff every now and then that makes a big difference, but at the end of the day you never made a dent on the world.

 

 

 

In Runescape, your character has his/her own story, yes. The world is very different from where you began to where you are now. You see the lives and deaths of major characters, the reshaping of cities, and all of this can be re-experienced by players as they aren't just one-time events you had to have been there in 200x for. Upcoming games like Champions Online, Marvel Universe, and The Old Republic are going to be following this same formula, it's a standard the industry is turning to, the concept that you can mix your story with your MMO.

 

 

 

As for a previous comment about the bronze-rune armor looking exactly the same; Jagex has shown great strides since rs2's launch in making weapons and armor look unique, starting with dragon and moving on to barrows, 3rd age, etc. I have a feeling they'll be working on bronze to rune, but one thing you have to remember is that those are the "newb" armors, and even WoW has countless items that use the same icons, or are reskinned versions of other items. Another thing you have to remember is that WoW started with a massive development team. Runescape had less than 10 for a good while from initial launch.

[s1reatalot]

Big woop, WoW has good graphics. Does it make it a good game? No.

 

It's totally [cabbage] in storywise, Runescape has a better gameplay, But if you play for graphics then you shoulden't be playing, their just a bonus.

 

Oh wait; Forgot to add, the WoW monsters repeat themselves, over.. and over.. Atleast runescape has some variety.

 

In conclusion.. Runescape > WoW

[Me_Hate_Libs]

One incredibly annoying thing in WoW is that an aggressive monster is agressive to a character forever, no matter what level you may be.

 

 

 

Granted at high levels it doesn't matter damage wise, but it's still seriously stupid for a pack of lvl 3 wolves to attack a lvl 67 player.

[nerdboyxxx]

Exactly. Runescape was run by the Gower brothers in their basement, and developed it through college. WoW has had funding from about 8 other games, and a lot of lore to draw from. Runescape was a scratch-built product made by two brothers, which has just become majorly popular for all the features it has. Best java game I've ever played, and it offers more than a lot of other MMO's out there.

[quelmotz]

Exactly. Runescape was run by the Gower brothers in their basement, and developed it through college. WoW has had funding from about 8 other games, and a lot of lore to draw from. Runescape was a scratch-built product made by two brothers, which has just become majorly popular for all the features it has. Best java game I've ever played, and it offers more than a lot of other MMO's out there.

 

 

 

:thumbup: +1

 

 

 

I hate stupid MMOs where all you do is kill, kill and kill. And some lame quests with NO storyline or anything in the slight bit interesting, and you still just kill, kill, kill. And some silly "player interaction" crap when you can do it on RuneScape as well, but they actually give you an option instead of forcing you to interact with other players. Also, RuneScape might be repetitive, but there's actually more variety than WoW. Kill, kill, kill. Nice variety. And you call RuneScape repetitive. RuneScape actually has a variety of skills to train and quite a few minigames. And there's actually other things that can be added to RuneScape other than tougher monsters, better items.

 

 

 

I've never played WoW, but from all the descriptions, it really seems like Maplestory with better but pointless graphics and some additional fluff.

[Ravenkana]

 

I've never played WoW, but from all the descriptions, it really seems like Maplestory with better but pointless graphics and some additional fluff.

Well, there's your problem. You've never played it and most of your descriptions come from Runescape fanboys.

 

 

 

True, individual quests are often weak, but when you put them together they often tell a story and generally lead into one another. Also, they are realistic- it's WARCRAFT, a world in which both sides are constantly testing each other and skirmishing. Of course you're going to be killing stuff. It's not World of Lovecraft, although that would be pretty freakin' sweet... Summoning Cthulu... Being a loyal cultist...