archimage_a Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Yeah it is heavily mentioned in the text:http://forum.tip.it/topic/247660-tip-it-hegemony-v2/page__view__findpost__p__3952931__hl__Nerexcite__fromsearch__1 I think it was basically that he has anti-projectile defenses aplenty and you only have missiles and nukes to fight with. Added to that once your Carriers had exhausted their supplies of fighters they became punt-guns, basically, doing less damage than your battleships, despite being three times as plentiful. You would have probably won in the end, but I wasn't going to go though 50 or even 100 rounds with you slowly eroding your way through his armour... Each round was taking about 15 minutes to do so.... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Helios orbs are primarily for planetary defense, but I thought up a little tactic to annoy enemy fleets, I simply scatter them over the battlefield and let them blast away. Each one packs 6 ARC cannons in different directions, and they can all fire at once if the situation requires it. They basically just spin around raining death on nearby enemy ships. The alloy Archi is talking about isn't really an alloy, it's the metal I discovered, but calling it an alloy instead of a metal really makes no difference. Its name is Nerexcite, for the record. It's an extremely radioactive material which coats the inside of all my ships. If any ship is destroyed, the material would presumably leak over the battlefield. And a lot of ships were destroyed, meaning there was a lot of Nerexcite around the battlefield.(I did explain it, multiple times, actually. It's a counter measure against infiltration and hijacking. Any biological life that enters one of my ships is bombarded by massive amounts of radiation.) I presume the main downfall was telling your ships to target the carriers at all costs, because that would give perfect oppurtunity for my ships and orbs to pick off your ships. (I just realised I sounded like a morally superior [wagon] just then, so sorry about that) Yes but my ships had Dirithanium plating, which makes ARC cannons pretty much useless against them <_< Also, I didn't say just go for the transports, I said those were the priority. Doesn't mean that Ross' battlesips could just float around without being attacked. And the Nerexcite wouldn't really be able to destroy half my carrier fleet, that's just silly. At most some would've gotten plastered on the hulls of some of my ships, causing raditation poisoning after a few years. Bah! Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 In truth it would not have made that much difference. Most of your ships were destroyed by the random events, and by Necrawhatever. The H Spheres just made sure that there was a slow stream of points coming off your armour and hull. The majority of the combat worthwhile stuff was done by Ross' rail guns at close range. Which was pretty much the only time you managed to actually do any damage to his non-transporter fleet, except in the first round with the fighters. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 In truth it would not have made that much difference. Most of your ships were destroyed by the random events, and by Necrawhatever. The H Spheres just made sure that there was a slow stream of points coming off your armour and hull. The majority of the combat worthwhile stuff was done by Ross' rail guns at close range. Which was pretty much the only time you managed to actually do any damage to his non-transporter fleet, except in the first round with the fighters. But that's my point. The Nexcerite was designed to stop boarding, not as an offensive weapon. That would be like saying the ships of mine that were destroyed had their Dirithanium plaster against Ross' ships and disable his energy weapons. It's just silly. Oh and the Helios orbs would've hit his own ships too lol. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 You think I would leave that large a flaw in their programming <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 You think I would leave that large a flaw in their programming <_<They basically just spin around raining death on nearby enemy ships. Actually, I don't think a full description has ever been given of these things. And 6 ARC cannons? They'd be massive, and one missile would take it out. Germania has started construction on a new line of spaceships now. Bleh. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Anyway, report time. Britannia had a pretty bad round. [Hide]This is the BBC News At Ten with your host John Packard. Good evening. Horrific reports are coming in from Japan as a Lichte force breaks the ceasefire in a near six million strong assault on the Japanese home Islands. We go live to our reporter Samantha Richards in the effected area. Sam?Thanks John. Behind me you can see the devestation that has left millions dead and a legacy Japan though it had left behind forever. The story begins earlier in the year, on January 21st. when the Lichtes first stormed the beaches, killing the night guard before they even had a chance to react. This 400 thousand man massacare could scaresly have been believed and because of the size Central Command refused to take the threat serouisly until the Litchens were on the streets of Osaka. The Civilians milita took things into their own hands, but the Lichtens fought with such brutality and commited such atrocities that soon some of the Japanese people were cowed into quietly obeying their overlords for fear of being barbarised. They then continued their march in land, sacking the ancient city of Kyoto as a warning to other provinces which defy them.Citizens from all over the province, almost thirty million people, came to swear loyalty to the Lichten Queen. Men and Women watched as their children were taken away while others saw them shot before their very eyes. As the parents wept the invading forces divided them into 'fighting droves', before pairing up men and women to produce a new serf class, subseviant to the Lichte.With an entire province under their control the Litchen army, still 4 million strong despite the uprising, now faced a combined milita and professional army, numbering in the 20 millions, at a disadvantage of more than four to one. Yet the Lichtens did not stand their ground to fight, as has been their past method, but instead turned about returning to their conqured territory. While the army was willing to leave it at that, until more forces could be rallied, the milita, numbering in the sixteen millions, followed. What no one was expecting were the tear streamed men and women, human men and women, wielding bits of tree and setting on the Milita in a frenzied attack. The Milita soon tried to run as to prevent further death, but either by orders or simply by the insanity the victims followed and continued to beat their countrymen to the ground. Eventually the Milita opened fire, killing hundreds of thousands of men and women. The professional army's hand was forced by calls to 'stop this civil war of enslavement'. Taking the only option open to them a nuclear strike of the province was authorised.The death toll has currently reached fifty million, not including almost nine million people missing, assumed abducted. As the distraught citizens pick their way though the charred remains of their once beautiful province the New World Order emplores Brazil and Germania to cease this wanton war of aggression and turn on the real villan in all this. Both Brazil and Germania have been unavalible for comment, though sources close to both leaders say that this attack was nothing to do with them. True or not the war continues with these staggering losses only beginning to be comprehended. This is Samantha Richards, reporting from Kansai region. Thank you Samantha. The situation in France continues to escalate as over seven million Germanic troops are sent into quell the riots caused by the Brazillian destruction of the great French Monument, the Eiffel Tower. We now go live to Paris for an update of the situation. Jac, are you there?Yes I am here John, the devestation is shocking.What can you see Jac?... Jac?I'm sorry John, there seem to be technical difficults with some of the machinary.Thats quiet alright Jac, have these problems been common?Yes John, I was talking with a Germanic street officer earlier and he said that the Tower's destruction has lead to some strange phenomena.What kind of phenomena Jac?He couldn't go into details but the electronics in Paris and the sounding areas seems to be unstable.I see, what about the rest of the France?The French people are crying out for blood but the Germania Government has declared that there will be none. The destruction of the Eiffel Tower was an unfortunate, but uncontrollable necessity which the people of Brazil are deeply sorry for.Do they say anything on the rumours that the Brazilian leader refused to acknowladge France's suffering?They say they are just rumours John, but even so the Brazilian armies have been withdrawn to Spain and Germany after some violent clashes earlier on.Were their any casualties?According to my sources there could have been as many as fifty thousand killed.Our hearts are with the French people at their time of need, thank you Jac.Thank you. Africa has dominated the headlines this week as over seventeen and a half million troops are redeployed in an effort to pacify the reigion. Britannia defenders were quickly surrounded and forced to surrender as a blockade of South Africa made resupply impossible. Further North conflict between the Holy Empire of Jeruselm and Brazil has claimed the lives of over a million innocent bystanders. James Stimpson has this report. This is where the tanks rolled through. This is where the children played. Only a few meters from this school a tank was shelled, you can still see the burnt out shell behind me.The attack began in the early morning in a sweeping encircling motion designed to trap the defenders and then starve them out. How the Holy Empire could have survived without Egypt is something that we will never know as the whole of the New World Order pulled together to see that there was not another step back. Drones from Somalia were called back as the area disintergrated under the pressure of Brazilian advance and the people answered the call when their government made it as ninty million civilians took to the streets in a battled for their very independance. To either side stood troops from India and Aether, Britian and Japan, all of them united in the common goal of making sure that Egypt remained free. The fighting left nine million dead on the Britannic side and six million dead on the Brazil/Germania side. It is the constant violence that wears the people down and that is why there are no children at school today. James Stimpson In Denmark there has been more Germanic activity as soliders go ashore on the Island of Gotland and the free state of the Aland Islands. Germanic protection has been welcomed in both areas. And now the local news were you are...[/Hide] Summery:Sorry about the newsreport style, I felt like it was a good idea at the time.59 Million Britannias' dead, two and a half million captured, 10 million abducted.6 Million Germanics dead50,000 Brazilians dead. http://www.esnips.com/doc/7a0e5f50-c416-46e5-b150-3c8062c565fb/Lands9 http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Dusty, I think you overestimate the size of the cannons. The Helios orbs are about 35 metres radius. They have a large shell around them, as well, which prevents some damage, but they are a lot easier to take out than my ships, yes. Doesn't really help when there are hundereds of them though. In response to the round ending: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Who the hell gave the order to use a nuke? (Also, minor sidenote: Project Ares is completed, no more weakened prototypes.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Combination of bad dice rolls everywhere but Egypt and absolutely no defensive planning from anyone except Grim and the Germania Alliance. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Well, I suppose the Lichtes are very much my enemy now.And since they've killed over 50 million citizens, a heavy handed blow would no longer be overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Dusty, I think you overestimate the size of the cannons. The Helios orbs are about 35 metres radius. They have a large shell around them, as well, which prevents some damage, but they are a lot easier to take out than my ships, yes. Doesn't really help when there are hundereds of them though.If they are smaller than regular ARC cannons then they're pretty useless against massive spaceships, no? And holy [cabbage], Japan just got its [wagon] kicked. And Arch what do the numbers on the map mean? Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 They're about the same size as the lasers on the Rhadamanthus ships. It's still enough to do a lot of damage, but they aren't as powerful as most of my ship based ones. A fleet of 30 Rhadamanthus battleships, one Hyperion ship and 10 Cataclysm ships has begun moving to Recea Decimus. Accompanying them is one of the Ares prototypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 And Arch what do the numbers on the map mean? Size of forces moved, I have to use two maps, one for me and one for everyone else, just put up the wrong map. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 They're about the same size as the lasers on the Rhadamanthus ships. It's still enough to do a lot of damage, but they aren't as powerful as most of my ship based ones. A fleet of 30 Rhadamanthus battleships, one Hyperion ship and 10 Cataclysm ships has begun moving to Recea Decimus. Accompanying them is one of the Ares prototypes. Can you post a description of these things? From what I gather it's just a ball with arc cannons attached to it? Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Alright then.Its a hollow shell with a set of six ARC cannons inside, each one facing in a different direction. There is a hatch at the point of each one so that they can fire without destroying themselves. They have small jets on the outside to allow for rotation. The shell is about 1.5 metres thick. They are programmed to target enemy ships and avoid targeting allied ships. They are designed as defensive turrets, and there are actually multiple hundereds orbiting each of my planets (I think around 600 per planet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Alright then.Its a hollow shell with a set of six ARC cannons inside, each one facing in a different direction. There is a hatch at the point of each one so that they can fire without destroying themselves. They have small jets on the outside to allow for rotation. The shell is about 1.5 metres thick. They are programmed to target enemy ships and avoid targeting allied ships.So they have no missile defense then? Also, Ross, I think around 70% of your military got destroyed this round :razz: Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 EDIT: WhoopsAlso, helios spheres would be around earth, nowhere near where the battle was, since you can't come out of warp near a solar system. Whatever though. Brazilian fleet is still being built up in our system designed solely for mass ship production.Naval production continues at max capacity.Project ANDY roles on. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 None of my transports were destroyed. Get on IRC doooom Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 First things first, Horrific reports are coming in from Japan as a Lichte force breaks the ceasefire in a near six million strong assault on the Japanese home Islands. We go live to our reporter Samantha Richards in the effected area. Sam? Didn't the liches have 1 million people on Earth yesterday? So they multipled by 600% in a year? And they're all mature? What? Behind me you can see the devestation that has left millions dead and a legacy Japan though it had left behind forever. The story begins earlier in the year, on January 21st. when the Lichtes first stormed the beaches, killing the night guard before they even had a chance to react. This 400 thousand man massacare could scaresly have been believed and because of the size Central Command refused to take the threat serouisly until the Litchens were on the streets of Osaka. Yeah, the military is constantly on red alert because we're in a war situation, we're advanced to the point where we can go FTL, but we don't take invasions seriously! The Civilians milita took things into their own hands, but the Lichtens fought with such brutality and commited such atrocities that soon some of the Japanese people were cowed into quietly obeying their overlords for fear of being barbarised. They then continued their march in land, sacking the ancient city of Kyoto as a warning to other provinces which defy them.Citizens from all over the province, almost thirty million people, came to swear loyalty to the Lichten Queen. Because, people from one of the most patriotic nations in the world, just give up arms and swear loyalty to an alien race. That's a no brainer, right? Men and Women watched as their children were taken away while others saw them shot before their very eyes. As the parents wept the invading forces divided them into 'fighting droves', before pairing up men and women to produce a new serf class, subseviant to the Lichte.With an entire province under their control the Litchen army, still 4 million strong despite the uprising, now faced a combined milita and professional army, numbering in the 20 millions, at a disadvantage of more than four to one. Yet the Lichtens did not stand their ground to fight, as has been their past method, but instead turned about returning to their conqured territory. While the army was willing to leave it at that, until more forces could be rallied, the milita, numbering in the sixteen millions, followed. What no one was expecting were the tear streamed men and women, human men and women, wielding bits of tree and setting on the Milita in a frenzied attack. Nobody was expecting because that's ABSURD. Why the [bleep] would 16 million Japanese citizens just turn on their countrymen? SIXTEEN MILLION. The Milita soon tried to run as to prevent further death, but either by orders or simply by the insanity the victims followed and continued to beat their countrymen to the ground. Eventually the Milita opened fire, killing hundreds of thousands of men and women. The professional army's hand was forced by calls to 'stop this civil war of enslavement'. Taking the only option open to them a nuclear strike of the province was authorised. The death toll has currently reached fifty million, not including almost nine million people missing, assumed abducted. Nuclear strike. JAPAN. On it's own country. Sorry, but no. 50 million people? The entire population of Japan is only 150 million, at best. A third of the population will not die in one year, I can't believe that. So, to recap Retech himself: He joins a few days ago, immediately joins Hegemony, starts spamming posts, comes up with this alien race, okay, fine, we can put up with him. But then he's just allowed to turn me to [cabbage] totally implausibly. Why are people like Killerwatt forced to play properly, to the rules, 10 million population etc, but this guy can do what he wants? While I, without trying to big myself up too much, a member of Hegemony for god knows how long, am treated to [cabbage] by a war mechanic that is decided on a whim, so far as I can tell. You say that only Grim / Germania posted their "defence plans", but I have no idea what we're supposed to do. It was fine that first time, then you said something about updating a map, and arrows and I don't know what's going on. That space battle seems absurd, radiation on a ship will hardly affect an enemy SHIP at all, I would've thought. Helios orbs will do as much damage to their owner as their enemy in the chaos of battle, especially in a 360 degree radius. Unless someone points out something that makes this all make sense, I'm out. 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I still don't understood what that battle report even means. Are they saying that they betrayed themselves? What? Please explain. :) As to Dungeon, I'm not sure about Defensive plans. I think you can just tell Arch where you're putting your troops in Pm ie. Southern Japan, and he'll factor that in. I don't quite understand what went on with Japan anywhoo. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Yeah, alright, the radiation thing was taking it a bit far.If ships can't come out of warp between jumps, how did you ambush me?70% of my forces on Earth may have been destroyed, but now that I'm using my old factories I can produce them without having to go through the whole transport business.THE ARC CANNONS WILL NOT TARGET MY OWN SHIPS. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY JUST SHOOT RANDOMLY OVER AND OVER. I'm bolstering ship production by syphoning a ton of money into it to build more shipyard drones. The extent of this increase will be shown tommorow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I still don't understood what that battle report even means. Are they saying that they betrayed themselves? What?Basically there was a massive overreaction because of bad luck dice rolls. The attack on the main Island of Japan turned into a total bloodbath. Now I need to reign that back because obviously I overstepped the mark that people were comfortable with. Yeah, alright, the radiation thing was taking it a bit far.If everyone is agreed then Dusty gets back all of his Carriers. The number of surviving battleships was 33.Given that I had no idea what I was doing and was basically trying a more complicated system than just 1=1. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I still don't understood what that battle report even means. Are they saying that they betrayed themselves? What?Basically there was a massive overreaction because of bad luck dice rolls. The attack on the main Island of Japan turned into a total bloodbath. Now I need to reign that back because obviously I overstepped the mark that people were comfortable with. Yeah, alright, the radiation thing was taking it a bit far.If everyone is agreed then Dusty gets back all of his Carriers. The number of surviving battleships was 33.I agree! :razz: Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 You suck at deception, Dusty. You would've caused a LOT more damage if you just signed the treaty and allowed us to demilitarise. All you accomplished was catching us on stand-by, but we were still ready to launch an assault, so it wasn't a surprise attack. If everyone is agreed then Dusty gets back all of his Carriers. The number of surviving battleships was 33. Of course not. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 You suck at deception, Dusty. You would've caused a LOT more damage if you just signed the treaty and allowed us to demilitarise. All you accomplished was catching us on stand-by, but we were still ready to launch an assault, so it wasn't a surprise attack. If everyone is agreed then Dusty gets back all of his Carriers. The number of surviving battleships was 33. Of course not.Sere, don't disagree just because you don't want him to have an advantage.And peace treaty is boring. We never said we'd agree, and we decided against it internally. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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