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[Retech]

Well I want to build my own super massive ship, but the rules state that the maximum is 10,000 PP. So may we or may we not?

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

Mob rule..... If more people want faster travel they get faster travel.

[Retech]

If that's the case then I vote against faster travel.

[Wisp]

Hex, actually that would be "mod" rule. The game mods can make the final decision. And Retech, you'll have to research first, I guess but I suppose.

[VEGHATERMEATLOVER]

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Rule 1.

[Retech]

But, until now I wasn't even informed that I could build some large ship. I was penalized for following the rule :(

 

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So can I have a free large ship research? :D

[archimage_a]

Rule 2 and Rule 5. Me and Doom run as rulers in tandum.

 

And no free research! Everyone has to play by the rules.

[Retech]

So Doom doesn't have any ship greater than 10,000 PP. The rule was that the max was 10,000 PP, which everyone followed. I would've researched a larger ship, as probaly would everyone else, if there wasn't such a rule. Thus, everyone should get a free larger ship.

 

My basis of that argument is that Doom got an advantage by not following the rule, so we should get the same advantage as if we had not followed the rule.

[archimage_a]

Yeah, lets crash the game...Everyone should get a free planet buster bomb...why, because I want one and if I research it then everyone has to have one.

 

Doom used the Sa Matra rule.

[Retech]

Of which there is only supposed to be one, but she has several. If Doom somehow constructed a planet buster bomb and you agreed with it, then everyone should be able to construct one. It makes perfect sense.

[Wisp]

Meh, the only ships about 10,000 pp I have is the original sa matra, and the new sa matra. New rule, each person may have one ship above 10,000 but below or equal to 20,000, so that way my advantage gained by having the old sa matra goes away.

[Retech]

May I research a 100,000 PP megacruiser (of which I have one). I need a flagship, since I have 2 old flagships which are 10,000 PP, and 4 artillery ships of which are also 10,000 PP.

 

Imagine the possibilities, 50 notes.

[Wisp]

My 100,000 PP ship is the new Sa Matra. So no.

[Retech]

Can someone explain to me what a Sa Matra is? I know it's a trophy ship, but what determines who has it.

[Wisp]

Originally it was who ever built it first. But now I have an idea.

If someone wants to contest the Sa Matra, they announce it, then they spend 5 years researching a new Sa Matra that's 5 times as powerful/takes 5 times the PP. The current owner of the sa matra can start building a new Sa Matra worth 5 times as much with no research. Whoever completes it first would get the new Sa Matra. This means the challenger needs to be willing to invest more of their production capabilities into a new ship than the current owner.

[archimage_a]

I prefer the 'Sa Matra is the largests ship until it is destroyed/retired'

Then it is whoever builds it first.

[Retech]

But essentially we could just keep trying to bump up the limit, correct?

 

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To Archi, what do you think is the cost of keeping a mega fortress the size of a small moon in orbit indefinitely?

[archimage_a]

Not much, once it is built.

[Wisp]

Actually now I like Archi's better. You have to destroy the previous Sa Matra for it to be buildable again.

[Retech]

-Looks evilly at Doom's fleet-

 

Haha, just kidding. Well now there's no hope; no one ever goes to war with Doom. Anyways, I am constructing random parts that happen to fit together with lots of work. This includes a five thousand foot coilgun, among other things. :D

 

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Also, does a defensive structure which goes into warp (so basically it can warp, but not "move") count against the limit of a Sa Matra (less than 20,000).

[archimage_a]

Yes

[Retech]

Ok, how much do you think it would cost and how long would it take to construct a "vessel" which can hold a few million people in warp perpetually and sustainably?

[archimage_a]

This is another reason I don't like the PP system...

 

Probably 10 years or so. Since you don't use money....

[Retech]

Great, I'll create an orbular object capable of holding five million people sustainably for an indefinite amount of time (occasionally resupplied of course) with a PP of 20,000. It also comes with the standard escorts of battleships and the like and is designed to hold key members of the government in the event of an attack. It isn't designed to move about in normal space, but to flee into warp space, where it can remain for a while.

 

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Meanwhile, a parallel project is being done to figure out a way to transmit transmissions from warp space into normal space without distorting it. A likely approach would be to calculate the amount of distortion between warp and normal space, then sending out a signal which then becomes distorted into a regular transmission.

[archimage_a]

No, actually I do know.

 

It would take approximately 300 million tonnes of Ultra Steel(I worked it out for another game) per million people, plus engines and weapons...So thats probably 600 million tonnes(Ultra Steel was a wonder metal) of regular productive capacity.

 

I could be completed by 80 million people(in a country,still having food and such) in 2 and a half years(per million) if everything was devoted to doing it. Increasing for the extra tonnage, I would say 100 million people over 5 years(per million)

 

(You could just use Laser Shifting Communication Tech...I did send out the plans for it a while back)