Abyssal Demons + others.

[gorgoroth]

Currently Abyssal Demons are my way of obtaining both Crimsons Charms for 90+ Summoning aswell as Money for 99 Magic, 90 Summoning and 90 Prayer. I have come down to an avarage of about a crimson every 5 or 6 kills. I need about another 4.5k Crimsons to get 90 Summoning (this is if i use my Gold, Green and Blue charms aswell). Assuming i get a Crimson Charm 1 in every 6 kills i would need to kill more or less 27 000 more abyssal demons to reach my goal. Assuming i reviece a whip drop at an avarage of 1 in every 600 kills it would bring me to about 45 whips in total. Now this is not the issue. I have never really kept count of the ammount of demons i have killed but i would assume it to be in the region of 2000. I have so far recieved a total of 4 whips. Would assuming an avarage of 1/600 be over enthusiastic? Would wearing a RoW make any noticeable difference to the drops i recieve? Or should i stick with Warrior Ring?

 

Currently im gettign about 40 - 45 crimsons an hour. If i put some focus into it i guess i could get around 50 or so. Does this seem like a avarage ammount?

 

Also i will be getting my Magic to 99 withing the next month so as soon as i get a few whip drops i will be buying supplies for String Jewelry. Since i find this one of the better methods of training i doubt i'll move away from this unless i can be convinced that there is a better method. Can anyone convince me? So far i have spent about 6mil on it and i will need to spend another 30mil for the last 7 or 8 levels (thanx to the constent rise in price of Astral runes i am unsure that even 30mil will now be enough). Would bursting not almost be a better methid now? Seeing as they are almost coming down to the same gp/exp.

 

 

 

Once i finally reach my goals of 99 Magic and 90 Prayer and Summoning, which i would easily have within the next 2 months, i am going to look into some skilling. Possibly get all of them to 80 and beyond. At first ill get them to 70. Anyway. When it comes to buyable skills obviously money is going to be the biggest issue if i want speed (and that is exactly what i want). With 90 Summoning, 90 Prayer and 99 in every other combat skill how should i go about making money? I should by then have Bandos/Barrows and some form of a Godsword. I've kind of gotten the hang of Saradomin Godwars now, Armadyl is also not too hard. Bandos is easy and cheap. Should i put my focus on the Bandos? Big team LS, easy to get a decent drop, but drops arent as rewarding? Or should i set my focus on Armadyl and Sara, do duo CS and hope for the best? I know in the end the choice comes down to me, but some educated input will really help me make the better choice.

 

 

 

Oh one last thing. Lets say i do chose the Saradomin/Armadyl option ( I will only do either Bandos or Arma+ Sara. Not bothe because i wont want to spend money of buying both a Melee and Ranged Setup) would it be best to go with Armaryl Armour + Blessed Spirit Shield (ZGS for Sara Spec) or should i go with the cheaper option of Verac Skirt + Helm and Dhide body?

 

 

 

Once again, Thank you for reading my extremely long essay.

[Judobreaker]

A few quick answers (as far as I can give those):

 

50 charms an hour is pretty decent I think, waterfiends would get you more but with a lot less profit I guess.

 

RoW would increase your chances, but nobody knows how much exactly so that would probably be what you like most (I like RoW). :P

[Aslan]

Well honestly I don't know why would you choose that way of collecting cash(27k demons), although you'd need less if you use the other charms aswell.Maxed melee recommends you for GWD.With a good team, you could get more money than from those 27k demons, with a smaller effort.With the money obtained there you could easily get 99 mage through bursting rock lobsters, thus achieving your summoning goal aswell.

 

 

 

About the armour question, I'd say the better the gear the more kills you will get.You can always sell the items back when you're done with money gathering for skilling, then just focus on that.

[gorgoroth]

Well honestly I don't know why would you choose that way of collecting cash(27k demons), although you'd need less if you use the other charms aswell.Maxed melee recommends you for GWD.With a good team, you could get more money than from those 27k demons, with a smaller effort.With the money obtained there you could easily get 99 mage through bursting rock lobsters, thus achieving your summoning goal aswell.

 

 

 

About the armour question, I'd say the better the gear the more kills you will get.You can always sell the items back when you're done with money gathering for skilling, then just focus on that.

 

Well 27k Demons wont take me more than 30 Days. Since i have alot of time on my hands now i can basically play most of the day. The reason for me chosing Demons as my money maker and charm collector is because its the only method of gaining a great deal of money while also obtaining an above avarage ammount of charms.

 

As about the armour. Ive never seen people using Armadyl at Sara (but that is due to the fact that i have only ever done Duo's with one of my friends so we never see other people.) So i dont know if Armadyl is any good for Sara GWD. Obviously it isthe prefered armour for Armadyl GWD.

[Aslan]

Well GWD for 15 days, burst for 15.You'll see it's much better than the demons.You could also GWD for 1 day then switch to bursting(for 1 day).

[gorgoroth]

Well GWD for 15 days, burst for 15.You'll see it's much better than the demons.You could also GWD for 1 day then switch to bursting(for 1 day).

 

Alright. This was actually one of my initial thoughts but then i started thinking more logically. What if i end up not getting any decent drops? What if i go 15 days dry? This will end up in a complete loss of time and money?

[Aslan]

I've kind of gotten the hang of Saradomin Godwars now, Armadyl is also not too hard. Bandos is easy and cheap. Should i put my focus on the Bandos? Big team LS, easy to get a decent drop, but drops arent as rewarding?

 

 

 

I wonder who wrote that...

 

With a team that actually goes to GWD you shouldn't have any problems in receiving drops.

[gorgoroth]

I've kind of gotten the hang of Saradomin Godwars now, Armadyl is also not too hard. Bandos is easy and cheap. Should i put my focus on the Bandos? Big team LS, easy to get a decent drop, but drops arent as rewarding?

 

 

 

I wonder who wrote that...

 

With a team that actually goes to GWD you shouldn't have any problems in receiving drops.

 

Yeah fair enough the chances of getting a decent drop at Bandos is easy. But i'm always afriad that i would have to spend 10mil in supplies before i get a 20mil drop. Sure i make 10mil profit in the end but that could take upto days to get. On the other hand when doing Bandos in a large LS team your supply cost goes down ALOT but so does your chances of recieving a decent drop. From my last bandos trip i was there for about 4 days (about 20hours total) and i did not recieve a single drop. As easy as it is there is always a downside.

[Phixcire]

dont count on money drops off abyssals i killed over 2k and got 0 whips

[Aslan]

Well I told you how I'd do that.All that remains is to choose your way. ;)

[gorgoroth]

Okay. I might have finally come to made my choice, i just need some second opinions. Since i just found out i will be starting a new job in a few days i'm going to have 4 days off. Currently im still camping at abby demons and i will do so for the remainder of the week. By the end of the week i should have, along with the loot and money in my bank, have a cashpile of 30mil or so. I am going to do 2 trips a day to SGW with a friend and then as many AGW solo's as i can. This is my setup (I will use the same setup for both GWD):

 

 

 

Verac Helm

 

Zammy Dhide

 

Verac Skirt(Sara) Karil skirt(Arma)

 

Dragon Boots

 

Barrows Gloves

 

Accumulator

 

Blesses spirit shield

 

Rune Crossbow

 

Amulet of Fury

 

Archer Ring

 

 

 

This setup should come down to round about 15mil which will leave me with 15mil for supplies. Each trip is going to cost me about 300k in pots, 200k in bolts. So this means 15 trips to each GWD. Arma solo should get me 3kills per trip. Sara duo should get me aroung 6 or 7? Now i know its extremely hard to even think about answering this, but what are the chances of getting atleast one decent drop during my 30trips? Would i atleast break even after all of this?

 

 

 

How long will this take more or less?

[Bdvo89]

Just train slayer.

[Bladewing]

My long term average is .32 charms per demon, or about 3 demons per charm. Might want to check your calculations!

[Cptbaker08]

Just train slayer.

 

Slayer is slow and low money. You shouldn't just train slayer for money. Train it because you enjoy it or you plan on training it later. I only have about a 35m cash pile atm. There are better/faster ways of making money.

 

 

 

I would do GWD like it has been mentioned. But also try and get high amounts of LSP by doing Corp or some other places that can generate high LSP for you. After that go and do LS trips to Arma/Sara GWD. Or try to Solo Bandos if you prefer.

 

 

 

As for getting magic and summoning up that seems like an obvious answer. Rock Lobsters. You might get more then enough charms from getting 99 magic, but you're only going for 90 summoning and the best creatures don't stop there (they stop at 99 :) ).

[D Jay99]

You went wrong somewhere. If your crimson drop rate is 1/5 and you average 40 crimsons/hour, you would be killing 200 demons/hour, which equals 120k xp/hour. One of those figures is off, and I think it's the crimson drop rate.

 

 

 

- Just saw this had already been mentioned, but whatever. You will basically be killing less demons (about 14k) and thus getting less whip drops, about 23.

[D Jay99]

You went wrong somewhere. If your crimson drop rate is 1/5 and you average 40 crimsons/hour, you would be killing 200 demons/hour, which equals 120k xp/hour. One of those figures is off, and I think it's the crimson drop rate.

 

 

 

- Just saw this had already been mentioned, but whatever. You will basically be killing less demons (about 14k) and thus getting less whip drops, about 23.

[ddaanniiellh]

Just train slayer.

 

Slayer is slow and low money. You shouldn't just train slayer for money. Train it because you enjoy it or you plan on training it later. I only have about a 35m cash pile atm. There are better/faster ways of making money.

 

 

 

I would do GWD like it has been mentioned. But also try and get high amounts of LSP by doing Corp or some other places that can generate high LSP for you. After that go and do LS trips to Arma/Sara GWD. Or try to Solo Bandos if you prefer.

 

 

 

As for getting magic and summoning up that seems like an obvious answer. Rock Lobsters. You might get more then enough charms from getting 99 magic, but you're only going for 90 summoning and the best creatures don't stop there (they stop at 99 :) ).

 

Slayer is low money?

 

 

 

We recently did a slayer week in my clan, and even people with <80 Slayer were able to earn 13m in 1 week, while those of us who had 70+, at least several of us earned more than 15m in just under 7 days (Note: There was school during the week, so most people had less than 4 hours a day to play). I don't know any other skills at lvl 70, in which you can earn that much in 1 week.

 

 

 

Syou can earn better going GWD or Corp non-stop during this time period, but it is a lot less consistent, in my experience, in money flow compared to slayer.

 

 

 

~Dan

[ddaanniiellh]

Just train slayer.

 

Slayer is slow and low money. You shouldn't just train slayer for money. Train it because you enjoy it or you plan on training it later. I only have about a 35m cash pile atm. There are better/faster ways of making money.

 

 

 

I would do GWD like it has been mentioned. But also try and get high amounts of LSP by doing Corp or some other places that can generate high LSP for you. After that go and do LS trips to Arma/Sara GWD. Or try to Solo Bandos if you prefer.

 

 

 

As for getting magic and summoning up that seems like an obvious answer. Rock Lobsters. You might get more then enough charms from getting 99 magic, but you're only going for 90 summoning and the best creatures don't stop there (they stop at 99 :) ).

 

Slayer is low money?

 

 

 

We recently did a slayer week in my clan, and even people with <80 Slayer were able to earn 13m in 1 week, while those of us who had 70+, at least several of us earned more than 15m in just under 7 days (Note: There was school during the week, so most people had less than 4 hours a day to play). I don't know any other skills at lvl 70, in which you can earn that much in 1 week.

 

 

 

Syou can earn better going GWD or Corp non-stop during this time period, but it is a lot less consistent, in my experience, in money flow compared to slayer.

 

 

 

~Dan

[gorgoroth]

Just train slayer.

 

Slayer is slow and low money. You shouldn't just train slayer for money. Train it because you enjoy it or you plan on training it later. I only have about a 35m cash pile atm. There are better/faster ways of making money.

 

 

 

I would do GWD like it has been mentioned. But also try and get high amounts of LSP by doing Corp or some other places that can generate high LSP for you. After that go and do LS trips to Arma/Sara GWD. Or try to Solo Bandos if you prefer.

 

 

 

As for getting magic and summoning up that seems like an obvious answer. Rock Lobsters. You might get more then enough charms from getting 99 magic, but you're only going for 90 summoning and the best creatures don't stop there (they stop at 99 :) ).

 

Slayer is low money?

 

 

 

We recently did a slayer week in my clan, and even people with <80 Slayer were able to earn 13m in 1 week, while those of us who had 70+, at least several of us earned more than 15m in just under 7 days (Note: There was school during the week, so most people had less than 4 hours a day to play). I don't know any other skills at lvl 70, in which you can earn that much in 1 week.

 

 

 

Syou can earn better going GWD or Corp non-stop during this time period, but it is a lot less consistent, in my experience, in money flow compared to slayer.

 

 

 

~Dan

 

Only good thing about slayer is the Charms. Its horrible money. Total rubbish.

[gorgoroth]

Just train slayer.

 

Slayer is slow and low money. You shouldn't just train slayer for money. Train it because you enjoy it or you plan on training it later. I only have about a 35m cash pile atm. There are better/faster ways of making money.

 

 

 

I would do GWD like it has been mentioned. But also try and get high amounts of LSP by doing Corp or some other places that can generate high LSP for you. After that go and do LS trips to Arma/Sara GWD. Or try to Solo Bandos if you prefer.

 

 

 

As for getting magic and summoning up that seems like an obvious answer. Rock Lobsters. You might get more then enough charms from getting 99 magic, but you're only going for 90 summoning and the best creatures don't stop there (they stop at 99 :) ).

 

Slayer is low money?

 

 

 

We recently did a slayer week in my clan, and even people with <80 Slayer were able to earn 13m in 1 week, while those of us who had 70+, at least several of us earned more than 15m in just under 7 days (Note: There was school during the week, so most people had less than 4 hours a day to play). I don't know any other skills at lvl 70, in which you can earn that much in 1 week.

 

 

 

Syou can earn better going GWD or Corp non-stop during this time period, but it is a lot less consistent, in my experience, in money flow compared to slayer.

 

 

 

~Dan

 

Only good thing about slayer is the Charms. Its horrible money. Total rubbish.

[Cptbaker08]

I would like to see a log of what you go for each task. Getting 13m-15m in one week of just slaying seems unlikely. Doing clues and that can help. But with me at 94 slayer, and if i was making 13m a week doing it i would well have enough money. But i only have that 35m.

 

 

 

If you don't show a picture or a log or something i will not believe you. You can get lucky on some things but when i was at lvl 70 slayer i wasn't making even half of that. I have a friend that made about 22m profit in 2 weeks are non-stop slaying. He is also maxed combat, 99 summoning and slayer, used a Steel titan on most tasks. And also prayed Piety on all task. With all that he made 22m in 2 weeks, 11m in one week and he was playing hours a day.

 

 

 

If you throw in farming, Kingdom Management, clues and other daily things you can do then 13m might be possibly. But just straight slaying I don't see making that much in a week.

 

 

 

And yes slayer is low money compared to other things. Take green dragons for example. Average GP/hr is 400k. 4 hours of that would be 1.6m. During a 5 day school week thats 8m. Lets say you plays 14 hours saturday and sunday. That's another 5.6m. That there is 13.6m in one week of Green Dragons. And the average i gave is probably lower then it could be.

[Cptbaker08]

I would like to see a log of what you go for each task. Getting 13m-15m in one week of just slaying seems unlikely. Doing clues and that can help. But with me at 94 slayer, and if i was making 13m a week doing it i would well have enough money. But i only have that 35m.

 

 

 

If you don't show a picture or a log or something i will not believe you. You can get lucky on some things but when i was at lvl 70 slayer i wasn't making even half of that. I have a friend that made about 22m profit in 2 weeks are non-stop slaying. He is also maxed combat, 99 summoning and slayer, used a Steel titan on most tasks. And also prayed Piety on all task. With all that he made 22m in 2 weeks, 11m in one week and he was playing hours a day.

 

 

 

If you throw in farming, Kingdom Management, clues and other daily things you can do then 13m might be possibly. But just straight slaying I don't see making that much in a week.

 

 

 

And yes slayer is low money compared to other things. Take green dragons for example. Average GP/hr is 400k. 4 hours of that would be 1.6m. During a 5 day school week thats 8m. Lets say you plays 14 hours saturday and sunday. That's another 5.6m. That there is 13.6m in one week of Green Dragons. And the average i gave is probably lower then it could be.

[D Jay99]

I would like to see a log of what you go for each task. Getting 13m-15m in one week of just slaying seems unlikely. Doing clues and that can help. But with me at 94 slayer, and if i was making 13m a week doing it i would well have enough money. But i only have that 35m.

 

 

 

If you don't show a picture or a log or something i will not believe you. You can get lucky on some things but when i was at lvl 70 slayer i wasn't making even half of that. I have a friend that made about 22m profit in 2 weeks are non-stop slaying. He is also maxed combat, 99 summoning and slayer, used a Steel titan on most tasks. And also prayed Piety on all task. With all that he made 22m in 2 weeks, 11m in one week and he was playing hours a day.

 

 

 

If you throw in farming, Kingdom Management, clues and other daily things you can do then 13m might be possibly. But just straight slaying I don't see making that much in a week.

 

 

 

And yes slayer is low money compared to other things. Take green dragons for example. Average GP/hr is 400k. 4 hours of that would be 1.6m. During a 5 day school week thats 8m. Lets say you plays 14 hours saturday and sunday. That's another 5.6m. That there is 13.6m in one week of Green Dragons. And the average i gave is probably lower then it could be.

 

[hide=Data]

127 Tasks



Att   5425k  7473k

Str   5582k  7501k

Def   5421k  7465k

Hp    7853k  10258k (also ~300k from bursting)

Range 5409k  7095k

Slay  4457k  6613k

Summ  5388k  5605k



About 60k from bork/vine, so a total of 2096k slayer xp. The summoning xp was all from penguins/lamps.



Total time: 96 hours and 21 minutes, 21.75k xp/hour.



Charms

Gold  1913   166k xp

Green 852    103k xp

Crim  3224  1206k xp

Blue  473    331k xp

           1806k xp



The charms I got from bork/bursting have been subtracted from the total.



Total cost, pots/cballs/pouches etc:



22203k



523  ppots

129  sup att

172  sup str

118  sup def

16   range

10   mage (been slaying on lunars for a while)

8    antifire

44   zamorak brew

60k  cballs

1500 broad bolts

~200 house tabs

6    tort pouches

58   yip pouches

32   uni pouches

21   geyser pouches

4    parasite pouches

~1k  uni scrolls

261  pine pizzas



Total value of drops not counting rare drops:



~9000k (didn't take placeholders of rune items/snap seeds etc out of my bank, 8693k exactly)

~5800k (placeholders again, 5603k exactly)

~6100k (placeholders, 6046k exactly)



1 whip         2662k

4 d boots      1418k

2 d bows       1764k

6 range amulets 8953k (sold them when I got them because the price was bound to fall)



So a total of 20900k worth in drops, 2300k loss

Taking into account rare drops a total of 35700k in drops, 13.5m profit.



So, a total of 2100k slayer xp in 96.35 hours:



2048k attack xp

1919k strength xp

2044k defence xp

2104k hitpoints xp

1686k range xp

1806k summ xp



13500k profit, or 2300k loss (about 1 gp/xp) without rare drops.



Xp/hour:



62.3k melee xp/hour

17.5k range xp/hour

18.7k summoning xp/hour

21.8k slayer xp/hour



I used 10% range/strength prayer everywhere, and followed the methods Zarfot describes in his 'Mega Slayer Guide 4'. I piety waterfiends/wyverns/scarabites, and have also pietyed two abyssal demon tasks and two greater demon tasks (the latter are a waste piety because of spot stealers and only 3 spawns). Furthermore I cannon as much as possible, try to change my equipment/inventory fast in between tasks, and also try to waste as little time possible picking up drops/walking round. I repot at 7/8/9 levels under my potted max.



My task list if anyone is interested, copied from excel so not that clear.



189	Abyssal Demons	19	7	66	2	

182	Black Demons	35	19	90	3	

142	Fire Giants	82	6	6	2	

4	Mithril Dragons	0	0	4	4	

149	Nechryael	12	12	45	2	94 Hp

160	Waterfiends	14	9	122	3	

169	Fire Giants	83	15	10	2	

65	Scarabites	7	1	17	2	

167	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

42	Scarabites	7	3	10	0	

143	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

197	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

189	Waterfiends	25	6	140	7	

71	Scarabites	7	1	18	0	

164	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

154	Abyssal Demons	12	6	51	0	

195	Aquanites	22	8	5	10	

6	Mithril Dragons	4	12	8	0	

137	Greater Demons	8	8	35	2	

165	Bloodvelds	65	12	9	2	

159	Black Demons	28	13	73	4	

175	Abyssal Demons	15	4	67	3	

168	Abberant Spectres	22	7	6	9	89 Slayer

47	Black Dragons	5	9	4	1	

147	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

187	Dust Devils	19	14	45	0	

195	Abberant Spectres	18	13	6	14	91 Att/Str/Def

57	Scarabites	1	2	15	0	

58	Goraks		0	0	0	

178	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

158	Gargoyles	11	10	5	12	

197	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

164	Nechryael	18	7	54	1	

156	Abyssal Demons	16	11	48	3	

154	Greater Demons	8	2	31	1	

58	Scarabites	4	1	19	0	91 Range

194	Greater Demons	11	7	48	2	

188	Gargoyles	18	6	16	18	

134	Greater Demons	11	3	30	0	

178	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

151	Black Demons	30	21	65	5	

149	Abyssal Demons	14	7	46	3	

195	Black Demons	39	21	80	1	

151	Gargoyles	13	8	12	10	

135	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

7	Mithril Dragons	4	12	8	0	

161	Black Demons	42	24	58	3	

45	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

177	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

42	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

195	Bloodvelds	89	11	8	1	

199	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	90 Slayer

139	Abyssal Demons	19	7	40	1	

42	Black Dragons	4	6	4	1	

143	Dark Beasts	6	9	11	17	

77	Skeletal Wyverns	2	2	100	4	

130	Nechryael	10	4	35	1	95 Hp

145	Fire Giants	74	14	5	1	

146	Abberant Spectres	20	5	2	11	

53	Scarabites	3	1	14	0	

140	Dark Beasts	14	8	12	12	

184	Gargoyles	14	8	12	4	

191	Aquanites	16	11	8	13	

168	Abyssal Demons	17	6	54	3	

73	Scarabites	6	4	20	0	

184	Dark Beasts	16	8	16	28	92 Att/Str/Def

43	Suqah	3	2	3	3	

57	Black Dragons	5	10	5	1	

55	Scarabites	3	2	16	1	

51	Skeletal Wyverns	12	4	54	2	

69	Scarabites	5	6	21	1	

189	Gargoyles	16	9	6	13	

171	Aquanites	6	8	11	15	

139	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

68	Black Dragons	5	14	5	0	

177	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

58	Black Dragons	3	8	3	1	

159	Bloodvelds	66	8	9	0	92 Range

156	Abyssal Demons	15	6	41	2	

157	Aquanites	19	6	5	13	

70	Skeletal Wyverns	16	6	72	0	

4	Mithril Dragons	4	8	0	0	

55	Scarabites	2	4	11	2	

160	Abberant Spectres	28	4	4	8	

135	Aquanites	17	8	7	6	

71	Suqah	8	3	5	5	

48	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

73	Black Dragons	4	16	7	1	

184	Black Demons	39	10	91	3	91 Slayer

199	Aquanites	20	7	11	6	

64	Black Dragons	3	8	9	3	

146	Abberant Spectres	15	8	5	6	

173	Gargoyles	16	14	7	16	

190	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

198	Black Demons	37	27	92	4	

45	Skeletal Wyverns	14	7	36	0	

155	Fire Giants	82	8	4	4	

195	Waterfiends	8	2	155	3	

144	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	96 Hp

4	Mithril Dragons	0	8	0	0	

153	Nechryael	20	6	41	3	

175	Aquanites	21	5	6	10	

166	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

144	Gargoyles	11	5	8	5	

73	Suqah	6	8	1	2	

176	Abyssal Demons	20	10	50	2	

189	Nechryael	20	7	70	2	

158	Greater Demons	12	5	33	1	

144	Dark Beasts	14	6	9	19	

190	Abyssal Demons	26	17	51	0	

137	Black Demons	22	8	57	2	

198	Gargoyles	17	4	12	16	93 Att/Str/Def

161	Greater Demons	7	6	41	0	

173	Aquanites	13	9	12	11	

74	Scarabites	3	0	24	0	

164	Nechryael	16	4	48	1	

151	Gargoyles	13	7	11	12	

152	Abberant Spectres	18	11	6	9	

199	Gargoyles	11	12	9	16	

65	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

173	Aquanites	15	11	9	10	

196	Waterfiends	15	9	147	3	92 Slayer

175	Abberant Spectres	18	9	9	15	

151	Greater Demons	6	8	38	0	

50	Skeletal Wyverns	4	0	54	0	

135	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

136	Greater Demons	8	4	33	0	

[/hide]So, according to that data, slayer is about 140k profit/hour. I don't know if 96 hours of data is enough, but it will at least get close. I wasn't that lucky with whip/d boot drops, so if you'd get like 2 whips and 5 boots more you'd make about 200k/hour, with higher stats and more attention maybe 240k. You'd have to play nearly 8 hours a day to make 13m in a week of slaying. Seems unlikely.

 

 

 

It does give nearly the same amount of crimsons per hour to slay that way, 33/hour and quite some other charms.

 

 

 

/slightly off topic.

[D Jay99]

I would like to see a log of what you go for each task. Getting 13m-15m in one week of just slaying seems unlikely. Doing clues and that can help. But with me at 94 slayer, and if i was making 13m a week doing it i would well have enough money. But i only have that 35m.

 

 

 

If you don't show a picture or a log or something i will not believe you. You can get lucky on some things but when i was at lvl 70 slayer i wasn't making even half of that. I have a friend that made about 22m profit in 2 weeks are non-stop slaying. He is also maxed combat, 99 summoning and slayer, used a Steel titan on most tasks. And also prayed Piety on all task. With all that he made 22m in 2 weeks, 11m in one week and he was playing hours a day.

 

 

 

If you throw in farming, Kingdom Management, clues and other daily things you can do then 13m might be possibly. But just straight slaying I don't see making that much in a week.

 

 

 

And yes slayer is low money compared to other things. Take green dragons for example. Average GP/hr is 400k. 4 hours of that would be 1.6m. During a 5 day school week thats 8m. Lets say you plays 14 hours saturday and sunday. That's another 5.6m. That there is 13.6m in one week of Green Dragons. And the average i gave is probably lower then it could be.

 

[hide=Data]

127 Tasks



Att   5425k  7473k

Str   5582k  7501k

Def   5421k  7465k

Hp    7853k  10258k (also ~300k from bursting)

Range 5409k  7095k

Slay  4457k  6613k

Summ  5388k  5605k



About 60k from bork/vine, so a total of 2096k slayer xp. The summoning xp was all from penguins/lamps.



Total time: 96 hours and 21 minutes, 21.75k xp/hour.



Charms

Gold  1913   166k xp

Green 852    103k xp

Crim  3224  1206k xp

Blue  473    331k xp

           1806k xp



The charms I got from bork/bursting have been subtracted from the total.



Total cost, pots/cballs/pouches etc:



22203k



523  ppots

129  sup att

172  sup str

118  sup def

16   range

10   mage (been slaying on lunars for a while)

8    antifire

44   zamorak brew

60k  cballs

1500 broad bolts

~200 house tabs

6    tort pouches

58   yip pouches

32   uni pouches

21   geyser pouches

4    parasite pouches

~1k  uni scrolls

261  pine pizzas



Total value of drops not counting rare drops:



~9000k (didn't take placeholders of rune items/snap seeds etc out of my bank, 8693k exactly)

~5800k (placeholders again, 5603k exactly)

~6100k (placeholders, 6046k exactly)



1 whip         2662k

4 d boots      1418k

2 d bows       1764k

6 range amulets 8953k (sold them when I got them because the price was bound to fall)



So a total of 20900k worth in drops, 2300k loss

Taking into account rare drops a total of 35700k in drops, 13.5m profit.



So, a total of 2100k slayer xp in 96.35 hours:



2048k attack xp

1919k strength xp

2044k defence xp

2104k hitpoints xp

1686k range xp

1806k summ xp



13500k profit, or 2300k loss (about 1 gp/xp) without rare drops.



Xp/hour:



62.3k melee xp/hour

17.5k range xp/hour

18.7k summoning xp/hour

21.8k slayer xp/hour



I used 10% range/strength prayer everywhere, and followed the methods Zarfot describes in his 'Mega Slayer Guide 4'. I piety waterfiends/wyverns/scarabites, and have also pietyed two abyssal demon tasks and two greater demon tasks (the latter are a waste piety because of spot stealers and only 3 spawns). Furthermore I cannon as much as possible, try to change my equipment/inventory fast in between tasks, and also try to waste as little time possible picking up drops/walking round. I repot at 7/8/9 levels under my potted max.



My task list if anyone is interested, copied from excel so not that clear.



189	Abyssal Demons	19	7	66	2	

182	Black Demons	35	19	90	3	

142	Fire Giants	82	6	6	2	

4	Mithril Dragons	0	0	4	4	

149	Nechryael	12	12	45	2	94 Hp

160	Waterfiends	14	9	122	3	

169	Fire Giants	83	15	10	2	

65	Scarabites	7	1	17	2	

167	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

42	Scarabites	7	3	10	0	

143	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

197	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

189	Waterfiends	25	6	140	7	

71	Scarabites	7	1	18	0	

164	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

154	Abyssal Demons	12	6	51	0	

195	Aquanites	22	8	5	10	

6	Mithril Dragons	4	12	8	0	

137	Greater Demons	8	8	35	2	

165	Bloodvelds	65	12	9	2	

159	Black Demons	28	13	73	4	

175	Abyssal Demons	15	4	67	3	

168	Abberant Spectres	22	7	6	9	89 Slayer

47	Black Dragons	5	9	4	1	

147	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

187	Dust Devils	19	14	45	0	

195	Abberant Spectres	18	13	6	14	91 Att/Str/Def

57	Scarabites	1	2	15	0	

58	Goraks		0	0	0	

178	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

158	Gargoyles	11	10	5	12	

197	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

164	Nechryael	18	7	54	1	

156	Abyssal Demons	16	11	48	3	

154	Greater Demons	8	2	31	1	

58	Scarabites	4	1	19	0	91 Range

194	Greater Demons	11	7	48	2	

188	Gargoyles	18	6	16	18	

134	Greater Demons	11	3	30	0	

178	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

151	Black Demons	30	21	65	5	

149	Abyssal Demons	14	7	46	3	

195	Black Demons	39	21	80	1	

151	Gargoyles	13	8	12	10	

135	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

7	Mithril Dragons	4	12	8	0	

161	Black Demons	42	24	58	3	

45	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

177	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

42	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

195	Bloodvelds	89	11	8	1	

199	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	90 Slayer

139	Abyssal Demons	19	7	40	1	

42	Black Dragons	4	6	4	1	

143	Dark Beasts	6	9	11	17	

77	Skeletal Wyverns	2	2	100	4	

130	Nechryael	10	4	35	1	95 Hp

145	Fire Giants	74	14	5	1	

146	Abberant Spectres	20	5	2	11	

53	Scarabites	3	1	14	0	

140	Dark Beasts	14	8	12	12	

184	Gargoyles	14	8	12	4	

191	Aquanites	16	11	8	13	

168	Abyssal Demons	17	6	54	3	

73	Scarabites	6	4	20	0	

184	Dark Beasts	16	8	16	28	92 Att/Str/Def

43	Suqah	3	2	3	3	

57	Black Dragons	5	10	5	1	

55	Scarabites	3	2	16	1	

51	Skeletal Wyverns	12	4	54	2	

69	Scarabites	5	6	21	1	

189	Gargoyles	16	9	6	13	

171	Aquanites	6	8	11	15	

139	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

68	Black Dragons	5	14	5	0	

177	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

58	Black Dragons	3	8	3	1	

159	Bloodvelds	66	8	9	0	92 Range

156	Abyssal Demons	15	6	41	2	

157	Aquanites	19	6	5	13	

70	Skeletal Wyverns	16	6	72	0	

4	Mithril Dragons	4	8	0	0	

55	Scarabites	2	4	11	2	

160	Abberant Spectres	28	4	4	8	

135	Aquanites	17	8	7	6	

71	Suqah	8	3	5	5	

48	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

73	Black Dragons	4	16	7	1	

184	Black Demons	39	10	91	3	91 Slayer

199	Aquanites	20	7	11	6	

64	Black Dragons	3	8	9	3	

146	Abberant Spectres	15	8	5	6	

173	Gargoyles	16	14	7	16	

190	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

198	Black Demons	37	27	92	4	

45	Skeletal Wyverns	14	7	36	0	

155	Fire Giants	82	8	4	4	

195	Waterfiends	8	2	155	3	

144	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	96 Hp

4	Mithril Dragons	0	8	0	0	

153	Nechryael	20	6	41	3	

175	Aquanites	21	5	6	10	

166	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

144	Gargoyles	11	5	8	5	

73	Suqah	6	8	1	2	

176	Abyssal Demons	20	10	50	2	

189	Nechryael	20	7	70	2	

158	Greater Demons	12	5	33	1	

144	Dark Beasts	14	6	9	19	

190	Abyssal Demons	26	17	51	0	

137	Black Demons	22	8	57	2	

198	Gargoyles	17	4	12	16	93 Att/Str/Def

161	Greater Demons	7	6	41	0	

173	Aquanites	13	9	12	11	

74	Scarabites	3	0	24	0	

164	Nechryael	16	4	48	1	

151	Gargoyles	13	7	11	12	

152	Abberant Spectres	18	11	6	9	

199	Gargoyles	11	12	9	16	

65	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

173	Aquanites	15	11	9	10	

196	Waterfiends	15	9	147	3	92 Slayer

175	Abberant Spectres	18	9	9	15	

151	Greater Demons	6	8	38	0	

50	Skeletal Wyverns	4	0	54	0	

135	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

136	Greater Demons	8	4	33	0	

[/hide]So, according to that data, slayer is about 140k profit/hour. I don't know if 96 hours of data is enough, but it will at least get close. I wasn't that lucky with whip/d boot drops, so if you'd get like 2 whips and 5 boots more you'd make about 200k/hour, with higher stats and more attention maybe 240k. You'd have to play nearly 8 hours a day to make 13m in a week of slaying. Seems unlikely.

 

 

 

It does give nearly the same amount of crimsons per hour to slay that way, 33/hour and quite some other charms.

 

 

 

/slightly off topic.

[Cptbaker08]

I would like to see a log of what you go for each task. Getting 13m-15m in one week of just slaying seems unlikely. Doing clues and that can help. But with me at 94 slayer, and if i was making 13m a week doing it i would well have enough money. But i only have that 35m.

 

 

 

If you don't show a picture or a log or something i will not believe you. You can get lucky on some things but when i was at lvl 70 slayer i wasn't making even half of that. I have a friend that made about 22m profit in 2 weeks are non-stop slaying. He is also maxed combat, 99 summoning and slayer, used a Steel titan on most tasks. And also prayed Piety on all task. With all that he made 22m in 2 weeks, 11m in one week and he was playing hours a day.

 

 

 

If you throw in farming, Kingdom Management, clues and other daily things you can do then 13m might be possibly. But just straight slaying I don't see making that much in a week.

 

 

 

And yes slayer is low money compared to other things. Take green dragons for example. Average GP/hr is 400k. 4 hours of that would be 1.6m. During a 5 day school week thats 8m. Lets say you plays 14 hours saturday and sunday. That's another 5.6m. That there is 13.6m in one week of Green Dragons. And the average i gave is probably lower then it could be.

 

[hide=Data]

127 Tasks



Att   5425k  7473k

Str   5582k  7501k

Def   5421k  7465k

Hp    7853k  10258k (also ~300k from bursting)

Range 5409k  7095k

Slay  4457k  6613k

Summ  5388k  5605k



About 60k from bork/vine, so a total of 2096k slayer xp. The summoning xp was all from penguins/lamps.



Total time: 96 hours and 21 minutes, 21.75k xp/hour.



Charms

Gold  1913   166k xp

Green 852    103k xp

Crim  3224  1206k xp

Blue  473    331k xp

           1806k xp



The charms I got from bork/bursting have been subtracted from the total.



Total cost, pots/cballs/pouches etc:



22203k



523  ppots

129  sup att

172  sup str

118  sup def

16   range

10   mage (been slaying on lunars for a while)

8    antifire

44   zamorak brew

60k  cballs

1500 broad bolts

~200 house tabs

6    tort pouches

58   yip pouches

32   uni pouches

21   geyser pouches

4    parasite pouches

~1k  uni scrolls

261  pine pizzas



Total value of drops not counting rare drops:



~9000k (didn't take placeholders of rune items/snap seeds etc out of my bank, 8693k exactly)

~5800k (placeholders again, 5603k exactly)

~6100k (placeholders, 6046k exactly)



1 whip         2662k

4 d boots      1418k

2 d bows       1764k

6 range amulets 8953k (sold them when I got them because the price was bound to fall)



So a total of 20900k worth in drops, 2300k loss

Taking into account rare drops a total of 35700k in drops, 13.5m profit.



So, a total of 2100k slayer xp in 96.35 hours:



2048k attack xp

1919k strength xp

2044k defence xp

2104k hitpoints xp

1686k range xp

1806k summ xp



13500k profit, or 2300k loss (about 1 gp/xp) without rare drops.



Xp/hour:



62.3k melee xp/hour

17.5k range xp/hour

18.7k summoning xp/hour

21.8k slayer xp/hour



I used 10% range/strength prayer everywhere, and followed the methods Zarfot describes in his 'Mega Slayer Guide 4'. I piety waterfiends/wyverns/scarabites, and have also pietyed two abyssal demon tasks and two greater demon tasks (the latter are a waste piety because of spot stealers and only 3 spawns). Furthermore I cannon as much as possible, try to change my equipment/inventory fast in between tasks, and also try to waste as little time possible picking up drops/walking round. I repot at 7/8/9 levels under my potted max.



My task list if anyone is interested, copied from excel so not that clear.



189	Abyssal Demons	19	7	66	2	

182	Black Demons	35	19	90	3	

142	Fire Giants	82	6	6	2	

4	Mithril Dragons	0	0	4	4	

149	Nechryael	12	12	45	2	94 Hp

160	Waterfiends	14	9	122	3	

169	Fire Giants	83	15	10	2	

65	Scarabites	7	1	17	2	

167	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

42	Scarabites	7	3	10	0	

143	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

197	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

189	Waterfiends	25	6	140	7	

71	Scarabites	7	1	18	0	

164	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

154	Abyssal Demons	12	6	51	0	

195	Aquanites	22	8	5	10	

6	Mithril Dragons	4	12	8	0	

137	Greater Demons	8	8	35	2	

165	Bloodvelds	65	12	9	2	

159	Black Demons	28	13	73	4	

175	Abyssal Demons	15	4	67	3	

168	Abberant Spectres	22	7	6	9	89 Slayer

47	Black Dragons	5	9	4	1	

147	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

187	Dust Devils	19	14	45	0	

195	Abberant Spectres	18	13	6	14	91 Att/Str/Def

57	Scarabites	1	2	15	0	

58	Goraks		0	0	0	

178	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

158	Gargoyles	11	10	5	12	

197	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

164	Nechryael	18	7	54	1	

156	Abyssal Demons	16	11	48	3	

154	Greater Demons	8	2	31	1	

58	Scarabites	4	1	19	0	91 Range

194	Greater Demons	11	7	48	2	

188	Gargoyles	18	6	16	18	

134	Greater Demons	11	3	30	0	

178	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

151	Black Demons	30	21	65	5	

149	Abyssal Demons	14	7	46	3	

195	Black Demons	39	21	80	1	

151	Gargoyles	13	8	12	10	

135	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

7	Mithril Dragons	4	12	8	0	

161	Black Demons	42	24	58	3	

45	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

177	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

42	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

195	Bloodvelds	89	11	8	1	

199	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	90 Slayer

139	Abyssal Demons	19	7	40	1	

42	Black Dragons	4	6	4	1	

143	Dark Beasts	6	9	11	17	

77	Skeletal Wyverns	2	2	100	4	

130	Nechryael	10	4	35	1	95 Hp

145	Fire Giants	74	14	5	1	

146	Abberant Spectres	20	5	2	11	

53	Scarabites	3	1	14	0	

140	Dark Beasts	14	8	12	12	

184	Gargoyles	14	8	12	4	

191	Aquanites	16	11	8	13	

168	Abyssal Demons	17	6	54	3	

73	Scarabites	6	4	20	0	

184	Dark Beasts	16	8	16	28	92 Att/Str/Def

43	Suqah	3	2	3	3	

57	Black Dragons	5	10	5	1	

55	Scarabites	3	2	16	1	

51	Skeletal Wyverns	12	4	54	2	

69	Scarabites	5	6	21	1	

189	Gargoyles	16	9	6	13	

171	Aquanites	6	8	11	15	

139	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

68	Black Dragons	5	14	5	0	

177	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

58	Black Dragons	3	8	3	1	

159	Bloodvelds	66	8	9	0	92 Range

156	Abyssal Demons	15	6	41	2	

157	Aquanites	19	6	5	13	

70	Skeletal Wyverns	16	6	72	0	

4	Mithril Dragons	4	8	0	0	

55	Scarabites	2	4	11	2	

160	Abberant Spectres	28	4	4	8	

135	Aquanites	17	8	7	6	

71	Suqah	8	3	5	5	

48	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

73	Black Dragons	4	16	7	1	

184	Black Demons	39	10	91	3	91 Slayer

199	Aquanites	20	7	11	6	

64	Black Dragons	3	8	9	3	

146	Abberant Spectres	15	8	5	6	

173	Gargoyles	16	14	7	16	

190	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

198	Black Demons	37	27	92	4	

45	Skeletal Wyverns	14	7	36	0	

155	Fire Giants	82	8	4	4	

195	Waterfiends	8	2	155	3	

144	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	96 Hp

4	Mithril Dragons	0	8	0	0	

153	Nechryael	20	6	41	3	

175	Aquanites	21	5	6	10	

166	Spiritual Mages	0	0	0	0	

144	Gargoyles	11	5	8	5	

73	Suqah	6	8	1	2	

176	Abyssal Demons	20	10	50	2	

189	Nechryael	20	7	70	2	

158	Greater Demons	12	5	33	1	

144	Dark Beasts	14	6	9	19	

190	Abyssal Demons	26	17	51	0	

137	Black Demons	22	8	57	2	

198	Gargoyles	17	4	12	16	93 Att/Str/Def

161	Greater Demons	7	6	41	0	

173	Aquanites	13	9	12	11	

74	Scarabites	3	0	24	0	

164	Nechryael	16	4	48	1	

151	Gargoyles	13	7	11	12	

152	Abberant Spectres	18	11	6	9	

199	Gargoyles	11	12	9	16	

65	Goraks	0	0	0	0	

173	Aquanites	15	11	9	10	

196	Waterfiends	15	9	147	3	92 Slayer

175	Abberant Spectres	18	9	9	15	

151	Greater Demons	6	8	38	0	

50	Skeletal Wyverns	4	0	54	0	

135	Warped Terrorbirds	0	0	0	0	

136	Greater Demons	8	4	33	0	

[/hide]So, according to that data, slayer is about 140k profit/hour. I don't know if 96 hours of data is enough, but it will at least get close. I wasn't that lucky with whip/d boot drops, so if you'd get like 2 whips and 5 boots more you'd make about 200k/hour, with higher stats and more attention maybe 240k. You'd have to play nearly 8 hours a day to make 13m in a week of slaying. Seems unlikely.

 

 

 

It does give nearly the same amount of crimsons per hour to slay that way, 33/hour and quite some other charms.

 

 

 

/slightly off topic.

 

Well to go a little more off topic. That's with your 92 slayer. He was talking about players with less then 70 Slayer getting 13m in a week. Now i know that dragons can make money. But that means some of the best monsters are cut out. Abby Demons, Spiritual Mages, Gargoyles, and a few others.

 

 

 

But other then that. A very nice log you made there.