Seriously? Another word for donkey?

[AmadanUladh]

It would appear to me that Runescape's actual censors have gotten more lenient while yours have gotten ever tighter, binding us to use an 'educated vocabulary' or whatever the desired effect may be.

 

But seriously. Donkey? Censored? That's just ludicrous. It's not "offensive". I don't feel offended when someone calls me an [wagon], or uses it in their casual speech.

 

You should seriously reconsider where you stand on your censors. It's easy to evade and it's just pointless to censor such a playground word.

 

[wagon].

[Rainy_Day]

Whilst you may not find it offensive, I'm sure other members may object to people using that word in a derogatory manner towards them. I think our censors are pretty lenient at the moment, I wouldn't say they've become stricter at all.

[Wongtong]

I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed, [wagon] has always been censored. So.. the censor hasn't gotten tighter from what I've observed.

 

And who cares? Just deal with it. Jeez.

[n_odie]

Is there a way it would be a positive influence on the community?

[AmadanUladh]

Whilst you may not find it offensive, I'm sure other members may object to people using that word in a derogatory manner towards them. I think our censors are pretty lenient at the moment, I wouldn't say they've become stricter at all.

So, what you're saying is is that people do find it offensive, therefore you censored it, but then censoring could produce more elaborate cuss words. I could call you a [hide]ballbag[/hide] for example. (I'm not calling you it. I'm using it as an example. If you do not wish to be offended, don't open the hide tags. Please don't ban me D:) Which is a hell of a lot more offensive than donkey, and I'd take offence and I'm sure most people here would take offence from it, but isn't censored.

 

 

Is there a way it would be a positive influence on the community?

 

Personally, I can't see it. At the risk of repeating myself, it's only going to make more people conjure up more elaborate swearwords as I have demonstrated above in the hide tags.

[Rainy_Day]

They can conjure up elaborate words regardless as to whether or not that one word is censored, it makes little to no difference.

[AmadanUladh]

They can conjure up elaborate words regardless as to whether or not that one word is censored, it makes little to no difference.

 

Well, I accept that they can but don't you think that people will be less inclined to do that if they're even slightly satisfied with that one word being uncensored?

[Wongtong]

Whilst you may not find it offensive, I'm sure other members may object to people using that word in a derogatory manner towards them. I think our censors are pretty lenient at the moment, I wouldn't say they've become stricter at all.

So, what you're saying is is that people do find it offensive, therefore you censored it, but then censoring could produce more elaborate cuss words. I could call you a [hide]ballbag[/hide] for example. (I'm not calling you it. I'm using it as an example. If you do not wish to be offended, don't open the hide tags. Please don't ban me D:) Which is a hell of a lot more offensive than donkey, and I'd take offence and I'm sure most people here would take offence from it, but isn't censored.

 

 

Is there a way it would be a positive influence on the community?

 

Personally, I can't see it. At the risk of repeating myself, it's only going to make more people conjure up more elaborate swearwords as I have demonstrated above in the hide tags.

Well.. you're just asking for the censor to be more stricter, if you ended up creating 'elaborate' swear words (which I've never seen anyone do), admin will just censor those words and you'd get upset that TIF is strict. -Shrug-

 

And I think n_odie was asking whether or not uncensoring [wagon] would have a positive influence on the community. Or 'relaxing the censor'. What do you think about that?

[AmadanUladh]

Well.. you're just asking for the censor to be more stricter, if you ended up creating 'elaborate' swear words (which I've never seen anyone do), admin will just censor those words and you'd get upset that TIF is strict. -Shrug-

 

 

And I think n_odie was asking whether or not uncensoring [wagon] would have a positive influence on the community. Or 'relaxing the censor'. What do you think about that?

 

Urgh, I misread it. Good call.

 

I'm going to opt for the uncensoring [wagon] argument n_odie was (probably) meaning to put forward to me. It was an extremely open question and I hope you can understand why I misread it :oops:

 

Now, let's forget about all this previous bleh for the moment and let's roll.

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Is there a way it would be a positive influence on the community?

 

Personally, I'd rather hear your case for censoring it first. I want to hear how something which is thrown around pre-watershed (and quite happily too) could offend people in such a manner as to say "Right, let's censor this,"

 

As I am proposing this, I really should be doing the talking first, but I want to hear what you have to say on the case first. Why is this word so offensive? How is it that 3 letters can make someone so upset that you must censor it? What is so dire and disgusting about this piece of vocabulary that no-one is allowed to say it?

[Wongtong]

Well.. you're just asking for the censor to be more stricter, if you ended up creating 'elaborate' swear words (which I've never seen anyone do), admin will just censor those words and you'd get upset that TIF is strict. -Shrug-

 

 

And I think n_odie was asking whether or not uncensoring [wagon] would have a positive influence on the community. Or 'relaxing the censor'. What do you think about that?

 

Urgh, I misread it. Good call.

 

I'm going to opt for the uncensoring [wagon] argument n_odie was (probably) meaning to put forward to me. It was an extremely open question and I hope you can understand why I misread it :oops:

 

Now, let's forget about all this previous bleh for the moment and let's roll.

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Is there a way it would be a positive influence on the community?

 

Personally, I'd rather hear your case for censoring it first. I want to hear how something which is thrown around pre-watershed (and quite happily too) could offend people in such a manner as to say "Right, let's censor this,"

 

As I am proposing this, I really should be doing the talking first, but I want to hear what you have to say on the case first. Why is this word so offensive? How is it that 3 letters can make someone so upset that you must censor it? What is so dire and disgusting about this piece of vocabulary that no-one is allowed to say it?

It's alright, small misunderstanding.

 

I find it amusing how you're debating over this one little word. Oh well.

 

Anywho, remember that this forum is G-rated, meaning that 13 year olds should be catered for as well. You know.. the word '[wagon]' could pollute their minds!!!! :P

 

I imagine that TIF have a list of words that are censored in other forums but -shrug-

 

Okay, think about it like this. You might not find it offense, but others might. It's sort of like.. okay, let's say you're white. I'm asian (I actually am). You call me a '[racist term]'. You wouldn't find it offensive, but I would. You could easily tell me that it's just a 'playground word'

 

Different people find different words offensive.

 

edit: hey look, my example word was censored. Good.

[Mirror]

Here is a useful and light topic I found on the internet for why some words are taboo. There is even a little quiz at the end. :D

http://www.englishclub.com/esl-forums/viewtopic.php?f=192&t=38114

It might help you find your answer. It's in there.

[Laikrob]

The word censor has been relaxed gradually the last year, and even more since the conversion, so I find it amusing that this is brought up now. :)

 

 

To clarify:

 

* Censored words are just to cover the most widely used swear words and offensive expressions. Unless someone exaggerates, there is no need to report someone for a "[bleep]" or two.

 

* Avoiding the censor to use any of these words will not be allowed, use a dictionary and a little imagination - and a donkey or a gardening tool will do just fine.

 

* Uncensored offensive words can of course still be reported, and will be dealt with accordingly by the Moderator staff.

 

* Same goes for unoffensive words used in an offensive way.

 

* Common sense and courtesy go a long way.

 

 

Laikrob,

Tip.It Moderator

[tripsis]

It's easy to evade and it's just pointless to censor such a playground word.

Yes it's very easy to evade.. but evading the censor is also against the rules and can get you in trouble.

 

Of all things, our censor has gotten much more lenient over the past few years. I don't think any new words have even been added recently, so don't act like this is a new thing.

[The Observer]

If a word is censored, it's censored for a reason. Is there a real necessity for you to use that word?

[das]

Devil's advocate here but if runescape doesn't censor it I see me making a push for it here as well.

 

 

Thank you for posting this.

 

~Das

[Sam]

It does seem a little silly to censor it.

[Rainy_Day]

Devil's advocate here but if runescape doesn't censor it I see me making a push for it here as well.

 

 

Thank you for posting this.

 

~Das

Though just because RuneScape allows the word, does that instantly mean we should? I'm sure if enough users went around calling others an [wagon], we'd soon have reports complaining about it. :unsure:

[das]

Devil's advocate here but if runescape doesn't censor it I see me making a push for it here as well.

 

 

Thank you for posting this.

 

~Das

Though just because RuneScape allows the word, does that instantly mean we should? I'm sure if enough users went around calling others an [wagon], we'd soon have reports complaining about it. :unsure:

 

 

Oh Aaron, you know how liberal I am baby ;)

[Rainy_Day]

Devil's advocate here but if runescape doesn't censor it I see me making a push for it here as well.

 

 

Thank you for posting this.

 

~Das

Though just because RuneScape allows the word, does that instantly mean we should? I'm sure if enough users went around calling others an [wagon], we'd soon have reports complaining about it. :unsure:

 

 

Oh Aaron, you know how liberal I am baby ;)

 

That I do, hun, that I do. :mellow:

[Laikrob]

Just because you like one, it doesn't mean you have to allow one. :P

[n_odie]

Don't be such an [wagon].

 

 

 

^ I just don't see how @$$ would bring positive bonus to the site. Yes, RS allows it. Rs doesn't allow pimp and lots of other slang words that we do. They shouldn't be connected and should be community by community based. Cussing honestly rarely helps a post out anyway, it just lowers any respectability your post had.

 

I personally do say [wagon] from time to time rl, but its more with close friend whom I know I'm not going to offend. Being a fansite for a huge mass of users means we need to moderate some words that may be 50/50 on the social "ok meter."

[True_Ownage]

Well, I hear the insult of dog being thrown around here and then, hows this any different to "donkey", cause in my opinion calling someone a dog is far more offensive. I honestly think you're overreacting lol. If a poster finds a post offensive with no censored words, then they should report the post and action should be taken against the offender, rather than censor common words that could be used in an offensive manner.