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Anyone almsot as psyched as me! Its about 1 month away today! And I just cant wait for the new games.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discuss!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(BTW, im deffinitly buying it, id thought i would wait about a year for the prices to drop, but the biggest bundel set you can get comes to about 499.99 CND! The Xbox bundell was about $700!)

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But taht was a discusion on if its the next generation and what not,a nd it was on all of the systems, and largly a discssion on which was better. I talking about it coming out lnext montha nd how everyone feel;s about it, and what games they want and what not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dotn care if anyone dislikes it or not.

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I thought you were a Square-Enix fan? Square-Enix is supporting Playstation 3, Nintendo Revolution and Nintendo DS. They're hardly supporting Xbox or X360.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think they also support microsoft and the xbox 360 :wink:

 

 

 

FFXI Goes Beta

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update by: Azar. Saturday October 15th, 2005 at 10:31 am.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On the Xbox 360, that is. When Microsoft's new console launches in Japan on December 10th, consumers who buy the Limited Edition of the console, which retails for approximately 40,000 yen, will receive a free Beta disc for Final Fantasy XI. All they'll need are PlayOnline and Xbox Live Silver memberships, which, luckily, are both also free. The offer will only last as long as supplies of the FFXI beta disk hold out, so those who arrive at stores first may be the only ones lucky enough to snag a chance to experience FFXI online on the Xbox before the general public.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Im not excited really, ive gone off consoles :?

And no lol why do you always want to get stuff from John Lewis. Its over ̣̉300 more then than what i paid.

 

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If I'm going to spend money on a console, I'd rather go for the first Xbox. Xbox 360 doesn't really interest me :? First Xbox is what? 170 bucks? I'd rather have that than waste $600 when I can fully buy a new computer with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With better performance, access, gaming and reliability ^_^

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I thought you were a Square-Enix fan? Square-Enix is supporting Playstation 3, Nintendo Revolution and Nintendo DS. They're hardly supporting Xbox or X360.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think they also support microsoft and the xbox 360 :wink:

 

 

 

FFXI Goes Beta

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update by: Azar. Saturday October 15th, 2005 at 10:31 am.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On the Xbox 360, that is. When Microsoft's new console launches in Japan on December 10th, consumers who buy the Limited Edition of the console, which retails for approximately 40,000 yen, will receive a free Beta disc for Final Fantasy XI. All they'll need are PlayOnline and Xbox Live Silver memberships, which, luckily, are both also free. The offer will only last as long as supplies of the FFXI beta disk hold out, so those who arrive at stores first may be the only ones lucky enough to snag a chance to experience FFXI online on the Xbox before the general public.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You call that support!? That's just a PC port!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

X360 will have some nice games (PGR3 is frickin' awesome), but if you intend to buy an X360 just for Square-Enix, bad idea. Very bad idea. They're hardly supporting the X360.

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If I'm going to spend money on a console, I'd rather go for the first Xbox. Xbox 360 doesn't really interest me :? First Xbox is what? 170 bucks? I'd rather have that than waste $600 when I can fully buy a new computer with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah $600 will get you a great computer :roll:. This is exactly why I enjoy console gaming and not computer gaming. I made a bad decision about 4 years ago and bought myself a comp. It cost $850 which was a lot for a 13-14 year old and I got totally ripped. Yes, it was my fault, but even 6 months later I couldn't play half the games on the market. 4 years later and I can still play ever ps2 game I have. I'd say your $600 on a computer is a major waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I already preordered my 360 and I am anxiously awaiting it.

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I thought you were a Square-Enix fan? Square-Enix is supporting Playstation 3, Nintendo Revolution and Nintendo DS. They're hardly supporting Xbox or X360.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think they also support microsoft and the xbox 360 :wink:

 

 

 

FFXI Goes Beta

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Update by: Azar. Saturday October 15th, 2005 at 10:31 am.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On the Xbox 360, that is. When Microsoft's new console launches in Japan on December 10th, consumers who buy the Limited Edition of the console, which retails for approximately 40,000 yen, will receive a free Beta disc for Final Fantasy XI. All they'll need are PlayOnline and Xbox Live Silver memberships, which, luckily, are both also free. The offer will only last as long as supplies of the FFXI beta disk hold out, so those who arrive at stores first may be the only ones lucky enough to snag a chance to experience FFXI online on the Xbox before the general public.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You call that support!? That's just a PC port!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

X360 will have some nice games (PGR3 is frickin' awesome), but if you intend to buy an X360 just for Square-Enix, bad idea. Very bad idea. They're hardly supporting the X360.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No no no, that was just me saying that thats basicly support cause they are giving an ff game to the 360. No I intend to buy the 360 for more games. Oblivion (Which i saw a demo today and it looks so ever cool!), Perfect dark zero, and when it comes out Halo 3!

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Yeah $600 will get you a great computer :roll:. This is exactly why I enjoy console gaming and not computer gaming. I made a bad decision about 4 years ago and bought myself a comp. It cost $850 which was a lot for a 13-14 year old and I got totally ripped. Yes, it was my fault, but even 6 months later I couldn't play half the games on the market. 4 years later and I can still play ever ps2 game I have. I'd say your $600 on a computer is a major waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I already preordered my 360 and I am anxiously awaiting it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i spent $500 on my computer about 1 year and a half ago. i can still play all the games (i did buy a $80 video card about a month ago). if you buy a dell or a gateway or hp, yes you will get ripped off. but there are a lot of good cheap computers out there.

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Yeah $600 will get you a great computer :roll:. This is exactly why I enjoy console gaming and not computer gaming. I made a bad decision about 4 years ago and bought myself a comp. It cost $850 which was a lot for a 13-14 year old and I got totally ripped. Yes, it was my fault, but even 6 months later I couldn't play half the games on the market. 4 years later and I can still play ever ps2 game I have. I'd say your $600 on a computer is a major waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I already preordered my 360 and I am anxiously awaiting it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omg, that rocks. I totally missed the fact that games need faster specs as newer ones are made.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why not pay $100-150 bucks to upgrade your RAM? Just to keep up with the games instead of paying for another console which equals buying another computer? You'll end up paying more than 1k to enjoy the console anyway. Might as well spend it on something worthwhile.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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i spent $500 on my computer about 1 year and a half ago. i can still play all the games (i did buy a $80 video card about a month ago). if you buy a dell or a gateway or hp, yes you will get ripped off. but there are a lot of good cheap computers out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you name any computer which will run the most current games and doesn̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t need to be upgraded for about 5 years? Most computers will be lucky to last 2 years (although more realistically you are looking at 1 year).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I brought my 3 GHz P4 a couple of months ago and it can't play games on full settings anymore, Doom3 even lags a little but it might be the cheap 3d Card. At least when you get a console game you know you are going to get something that will have optimal performance for the platform.

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If I'm going to spend money on a console, I'd rather go for the first Xbox. Xbox 360 doesn't really interest me :? First Xbox is what? 170 bucks? I'd rather have that than waste $600 when I can fully buy a new computer with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah $600 will get you a great computer :roll:. This is exactly why I enjoy console gaming and not computer gaming. I made a bad decision about 4 years ago and bought myself a comp. It cost $850 which was a lot for a 13-14 year old and I got totally ripped. Yes, it was my fault, but even 6 months later I couldn't play half the games on the market. 4 years later and I can still play ever ps2 game I have. I'd say your $600 on a computer is a major waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I already preordered my 360 and I am anxiously awaiting it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what are u talking about ryan? u make it sound like $600 for a console is a good deal. advertising has screwd with your brain.

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Why not pay $100-150 bucks to upgrade your RAM? Just to keep up with the games instead of paying for another console which equals buying another computer? You'll end up paying more than 1k to enjoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Upgrading JUST your RAM wont help at all. Try running Battlefield 2 or Half Life 2 on a 32MB ATI video card :wink: Or try playing AOEIII on a 300 MHZ processor with 2gb of RAM, wont work :P

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If I'm going to spend money on a console, I'd rather go for the first Xbox. Xbox 360 doesn't really interest me :? First Xbox is what? 170 bucks? I'd rather have that than waste $600 when I can fully buy a new computer with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah $600 will get you a great computer :roll:. This is exactly why I enjoy console gaming and not computer gaming. I made a bad decision about 4 years ago and bought myself a comp. It cost $850 which was a lot for a 13-14 year old and I got totally ripped. Yes, it was my fault, but even 6 months later I couldn't play half the games on the market. 4 years later and I can still play ever ps2 game I have. I'd say your $600 on a computer is a major waste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I already preordered my 360 and I am anxiously awaiting it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what are u talking about ryan? u make it sound like $600 for a console is a good deal. advertising has screwd with your brain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Xbox 360 does NOT cost $600. You can buy the core system for $300 or the premium for $400. So you guys can stop with the $600 rubbish. Anything after spending the 400/300 = whatever you also have to pay for your comp to do gaming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ShadowFaxPZ - Would my argument be presented better if I used 50 spaces between my sentences? Didn't think so. Just upgrading my RAM wasn't going to cut it, since computers have things called processors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scenario: Buy a new console every 4-5 years for $300 - $400. Upgrade my computer's ram ever 1.5 - 2 years and then every 2 - 3 years (5 total following original purchase) buy a new computer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hrmm which one saves me a lot more money and still gives the same amount of satisfaction. Console wins in the total utility department.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Can you name any computer which will run the most current games and doesn̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t need to be upgraded for about 5 years? Most computers will be lucky to last 2 years (although more realistically you are looking at 1 year).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I brought my 3 GHz P4 a couple of months ago and it can't play games on full settings anymore, Doom3 even lags a little but it might be the cheap 3d Card. At least when you get a console game you know you are going to get something that will have optimal performance for the platform.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

full settings on a computer are almost always better than looking than on the current console. only times it isnt is when a new console comes out, and for a little while after.

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Can you name any computer which will run the most current games and doesn̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t need to be upgraded for about 5 years? Most computers will be lucky to last 2 years (although more realistically you are looking at 1 year).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I brought my 3 GHz P4 a couple of months ago and it can't play games on full settings anymore, Doom3 even lags a little but it might be the cheap 3d Card. At least when you get a console game you know you are going to get something that will have optimal performance for the platform.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

full settings on a computer are almost always better than looking than on the current console. only times it isnt is when a new console comes out, and for a little while after.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Doom3, Half-life 2 and Halo2 are pretty good at matching up to the computer. Although they don't look like max setting games (probably medium settings) they sure run well for something less then 1/3 of a computer that handles max settings. If you had a computer with the same stats as the Xbox the games wouldn't even run.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However this isn't the Xbox; the xbox360 has statistics quite a bit better then computers today (compared to the mediocre stats of the Xbox). The architecture for the graphics card is next generation in terms of speed and a couple of generations ahead in terms of features (a large cache next to the GPU and unified shader pipelines). Also the 3 CPU cores with 2 threads each running at 3.2 GHz (so that̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s what 9.6Ghz of raw power) pretty much dwarfs current computers whereas the Xbox barely kept up with my year or two old computers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also I would like to mention that games will not age as fast compared to the Xbox. The first generation games are already starting to look photorealistic (have you seen the sweat on the basketball players in NBA2k6) with future generations looking much better as programmers get use to the Xbox̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s capabilities (compare Halo 1 to 2 or Project Gotham 1 to 2). Sure there will be some nice new graphics effects that will come out but they won't be as big as 4x Anti-Aliasing, motion blur or bloom effects (which gives graphics a lot greater realism) ; not to mention the graphics will output at details that will approach computer monitors.

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The Xbox 360 does NOT cost $600. You can buy the core system for $300 or the premium for $400. So you guys can stop with the $600 rubbish. Anything after spending the 400/300 = whatever you also have to pay for your comp to do gaming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ShadowFaxPZ - Would my argument be presented better if I used 50 spaces between my sentences? Didn't think so. Just upgrading my RAM wasn't going to cut it, since computers have things called processors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scenario: Buy a new console every 4-5 years for $300 - $400. Upgrade my computer's ram ever 1.5 - 2 years and then every 2 - 3 years (5 total following original purchase) buy a new computer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hrmm which one saves me a lot more money and still gives the same amount of satisfaction. Console wins in the total utility department.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good Night.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look, you got me all wrong here. I love consoles. Heck, I find Xbox and GameCube as fun as hell. I'm only buying the Revolution in terms of Next-Gen consoles as it's the cheapest one. GameCube was cheap and it was fun, I'll expect it to be the same with Rev. And because a lot more people will be able to afford the Rev. than the rest of the Consoles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's just that to me, you can just use that money to upgrade your computer that you prolly use everyday than spend it on a console you play once a week after the hype wears off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and the bundles I've seen worth buying are more than $600 plus. Put that in CAD and it explodes a lot more.

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The first generation games are already starting to look photorealistic (have you seen the sweat on the basketball players in NBA2k6)
Yea, but have you seen the movies for it? The screens are way easier to make look good. When you watch the movies, there are hardly stellar, and can't even compare to the screens. That's how it always has been. High def teaser screens and E3 vids, then dissappointing when the game actually comes out and you are actually playing it.
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If I'm going to spend money on a console, I'd rather go for the first Xbox. Xbox 360 doesn't really interest me :? First Xbox is what? 170 bucks? I'd rather have that than waste $600 when I can fully buy a new computer with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With better performance, access, gaming and reliability ^_^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My Xbox is much more reliable than any of my computers :P

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The Xbox 360 does NOT cost $600. You can buy the core system for $300 or the premium for $400. So you guys can stop with the $600 rubbish. Anything after spending the 400/300 = whatever you also have to pay for your comp to do gaming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ShadowFaxPZ - Would my argument be presented better if I used 50 spaces between my sentences? Didn't think so. Just upgrading my RAM wasn't going to cut it, since computers have things called processors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scenario: Buy a new console every 4-5 years for $300 - $400. Upgrade my computer's ram ever 1.5 - 2 years and then every 2 - 3 years (5 total following original purchase) buy a new computer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hrmm which one saves me a lot more money and still gives the same amount of satisfaction. Console wins in the total utility department.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good Night.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Look, you got me all wrong here. I love consoles. Heck, I find Xbox and GameCube as fun as hell. I'm only buying the Revolution in terms of Next-Gen consoles as it's the cheapest one. GameCube was cheap and it was fun, I'll expect it to be the same with Rev. And because a lot more people will be able to afford the Rev. than the rest of the Consoles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's just that to me, you can just use that money to upgrade your computer that you prolly use everyday than spend it on a console you play once a week after the hype wears off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and the bundles I've seen worth buying are more than $600 plus. Put that in CAD and it explodes a lot more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alright, well I guess this all is a misunderstanding so not point in dragging it on ;). You're right, I did spend $600 but that included extras like 3 games and another controller, etc. The point of this thread wasn't pc vs. xbox so I say we just drop it 8)

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If I'm going to spend money on a console, I'd rather go for the first Xbox. Xbox 360 doesn't really interest me :? First Xbox is what? 170 bucks? I'd rather have that than waste $600 when I can fully buy a new computer with that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With better performance, access, gaming and reliability ^_^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My Xbox is much more reliable than any of my computers :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Cough*Sarcasm*Cough*

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