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Fist of Guthix

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Does anybody else hate getting paired up with somebody 40 levels higher who can deal three times as much damage as you can? (I'm not exaggerating, by the way.) I'm just wondering if it's supposed to try and match things up fairly. I mean, the reducing the effectiveness of stats helps, but not by much. I really don't understand how a Level 43 with Wind Blast is fair against a Level 81 with three protection prayers, Fire Blast and a rune scimitar... especially when I get paired up against four in a row. FoG can get annoying sometimes... can anyone explain why this happens?

Because there is no one else within your level range.

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I know exactly what you are talking about. When I had my old account I used to play FoG all the time and almost every time I would get paired up with someone that would be anywhere from 40-50 levels lower than me. It didn't really seem all that fair to the other player. :???:

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Umm, train your stats higher before playing?

 

Also, most opponents in FOG are low leveled players who are only there for magic exp, so I guess you are unlucky.

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I don't play F2P FOG anymore (my bank died because of the f2p armor needed), and I can usually dominate even against higher leveled players even with their own nubby little "no running" fetish.

 

Moral of the story: Get strategy or get out. Seriously, with a single defensive maneuver as the hunted, I can usually get an extra 200 charges before they even see me.

 

Then again, maybe the only reason I can dominate is because I'm a welfare TDs trained hybrid. I put welfare in there because, well, if you want even moderately fast kills at TDs with welfare equipment and about 71 range, you've gotta be fast.

 

The other moral: Get protection prayers and some def armor against all styles. Carry rune + dhide in your inventory when you're the hunted, it really helps if you can switch to block the style you're being attacked with.

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I have a lvl 38 account named sqelt. I used FoG to get mage xp, but I'm very competitive.

When FoG was still popular, and worlds would be full, I was able to beat level 90's - 120's with hiding. At one point in time, I firmly believed that if I didn't want them to find me they wouldn't, but I still needed games to go faster.

 

If you play the game as it was fully intended to be played you'll win. You'll also be called sad, noob, etc., but who cares? You're there to play fog.

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When I used to play F2P FOG, I always got paired up with really low level'd people.

 

... I won, most of the time, although I once played against a guy who completely avoided me for an entire match, whoever that is, Kudos to you, Sir.

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Being a low-level is a disadvantage, but it doesn't mean in any way that you're guaranteed to lose.

 

Go practice hiding and running. Once you're good enough most high level players wouldn't be able to catch you regardless of how high their magic/melee/ranged level is.

mate i am lvl 55 i own ppl who are like lvl 100. The trick is to run and hide if they are higher level. Stay in the middle and u die.

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@ to all the people who support running:

 

Only do it, and I mean ONLY DO IT, if you're good and experienced at it! Otherwise, you'll be easily found and attacked by your opponent. Usually that means an easy kill.

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I actually just registered to post in this thread. I hate playing FoG now. I used to love it. However, every time I play now, I'll be against someone 90+ levels higher than me (not joking!). These people can kill me in 1 hit, makes running impossible, I can't even use the healing stuff. Secondly, they just stand in the middle, no armour, no prayer, they don't even bother to heal and they can tank all my attacks until the timer runs out. The worst part is there *ARE* people my level range in the lobby for FoG, my rating is 0 (but it should be allowed to go negative so I play against people who aren't as good).

 

I run, juke, tele, hide inside houses until they run away, use every trick, go in the middle and around he outside and avoid them. Usually get around 500-1000 charges then they kill me in 1 hit. Ok, 1000 charges, great! The next round starts, they sit in the middle and build up 4-5k charges not moving at all. Really not fair. They need to add additional damage as well as stat drain and everyone's HP should be equal, weather its by boosting the lower levels HP or draining the higher levels HP.

Well, Jagex is obviously not going to try to make lower level lose, is just that higher levels have a better advantage. If you are level 40ish, you should expect to lose a large amount of your matches simply because you are too weak.

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Well, Jagex is obviously not going to try to make lower level lose, is just that higher levels have a better advantage. If you are level 40ish, you should expect to lose a large amount of your matches simply because you are too weak.

 

This is why I am ranting. They try to make it "balanced" by making people weaker in the centre, but its useless. It's supposed to be fun to play but it isn't. If I play flawlessly in every way and my opponant runs to the centre and sits there afk and wins, is that fair?

 

Me: 0

Afkers: 20

I can make the arguement if I spend more time on my account than your account, why should I not receive an advantage? Honestly if the difference is not extreme, it is not impossible to defeat higher level opponents.

 

Edit: To be honest maybe Jagex does not want the game to be balanced too much, it should be quite simple to just make everybody have the same level while playing the game. I think they have stated that level is a factor, just not as much as in other minigames.

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I have 11.5k tokens from FOG which makes me fairly experienced. I win approx 95% of the games I play at level 80 ish combat. These are the reasons I win:-

 

1. My prayer level is 61. This means several things.

2. My range level is 81.

3. My mage level is 73.

4. My def level is 71. (Att 40 str 48 whoops).

 

These are my strategies to allow me to use the above effectively:-

 

As Hunted first - Its all about being underestimated

 

a) Whilst in waiting room pay attention to the levels higher than yourself i.e see what they are wearing and how high they are. If they are very high then the likelihood is that you will be attacked with melee or range, low levels will attack with mage and if about the same as yourself they will probably melee or mage. The method they will attack will probably be indicated by what weapon they are wielding. As soon as you know you are the hunted put on your appropriate dress. If you do not recall seeing your opponent waiting then they are probably lower than you so no need to panic.

B) Whilst waiting for the count down to finish right click above stone so you are going to pick it up immediately.

c) Now, without forgetting to wield stone run towards centre but stop at first house. Remember to dress as you run and then click on prayer icon so you are ready to select correct prayer or prayers. (If I know I am facing a high level I will activate steel skin and both health restores immediately. This is because there is no point in having unused prayer when you die.

d) If your hunter intercepts you before you get to the house then panic. This is an experienced player and whatever their level needs to be treated as if very high level.

e)When you see the yellow arrow appear at the centre run straight to the fist. This should mean that your opponent will run straight past you. At this point you will see what they will attack you with but do not bother to assess their level. Just put on prayers if not already done. Once in middle and geared up locate your attacker and watch to see that they are not changing attack method at this point you can see what level they are and whether you can turn off some of the prayers you should already have activated.

e) If they attack with mage steel skin will not help and only activate the health bars if you know you will have spare prayer before you die.

f) If they change attack style then change prayer first before dress. Sometimes it is better that the highest levels use mage so I like to leave armour on for a bit just to encourage them to mage and since they like to train mage for free too this can work well.

 

Hunter first - Its all about surprise

 

a) Before you even enter the waiting area remember to put your most attack effective clothing for your attack type and do not forget to change the attack option to slash style, rapid for melee or range (If you used mage on the previous opponent you will attack with range on long range etc)

B) Again pay attention to your possible opponents. Remember that the ones that come into the area with you are your most likely opponents

c) As the countdown commences rotate your screen so that you are looking directly at the centreand are also facing your unseen opponent..

d) Break the orb and continue running striaght and away from fist. Pay attention to the centre spot as you run from it in case the little yellow arrow appears.

e) You will in all probability catch your opponent still at his stone or he will have teleported to middle. Either way you have forced him to use his orb and also know exactly where he is.

f) If you do not see any sign of the yellow arrow then the opponent has sped round the edge. However if you have run straight as is possible you should get an indication of the direction he has gone by looking at the direction the majority of other hunted are running. I then run round back to where I started and hope to catch him. This obviously is not an exact science but if it does fail then you should run to centre and recharge your run and then search the other half of the area.

g) As soon as you see the yellow arrow you should turn on your boost prayer for whichever attack method you are using. If possible attack from the fist itself so your opponent may have difficulty seeing the method you are using. I tend not to change attack method mid game as you lose efficiency of prayer,armour and style.

h) If at this point you realise your opponent is going to hammer you remember to smile and change to mage (its free and against an experienced level 126 you might as well gain more than one token). If I know my high level is going to win then I dont eat or prayer when hunted.

 

Hunted Second - Luck is required

 

a) How many charges did your opponent get. Loads (Over 1300 - I have never lost with this many against any opponent) Never worry about giving up. You already got your mage experience and so why not lose quickly?

B) 700 - 1300. Now you are in with a chance) . So run round the edge (in the opposite way to the direction other players are going) until slightly less than halfway round and move towards centre about halfway to houses and wait until you have picked up 100 - 200 charges. Now run to centre and you should already know the prayers and armour you need from the first round.If against high level you can use the health prayers even before you see the arrow in fact turn them on as soon as you have lost any health.

 

Hunter Second - Surprise and under estimation

 

a) Melee is useless for this strategy. So you are going to attack with range or mage.

B) Teleport to centre and then go straight into crowd in fist.

c) If your opponent is higher than you it means that without surprise you cannot win so I hope they think that they are too good to lose and run straight to centre. As they approach activate your stat boost prayer and attack before they even get into middle . The chances are that they will not realise they are being attacked since they will be concentrating on getting right into centre. If they stop just outside the centre then you will not get in too many shots before they switch their own prayers on but remember they are probably not going to use health or sttel skin prayers initially because they cannot lose.

d) Once again range or mage until you know you have lost (or won - as against similar levels if they use two or three bandages before putting prayer on then I switch to mage so I get experience and the win- just dont be too confident)

 

You will notice that I never mentioned hiding in houses because that is plain silly. Do not hide at edge either as this gains nothing . I do hide but once found will always run to centre ( This is to counterract really high levels who just stay in middle and think that all opponents should run to them). There are some high level players who run round the houses very effectively. Fortunately they are few and far between because this is a really annoying but very clever strategy if done right.

 

So in conclusion for these and all methods to work you need to have high prayer. Without good prayer you will lose the majority of games. You need at least one exceptional skill compared to your combat level in my case range. A very good def level also helps as so many players have high strength. You will find as you play more and develop your own ideas and strategies you will look forward to playing against the high levels as they are the ones that are the best to beat and best to refine those ideas against.

 

I hope this helps in a small way . Thanks for listening

You'd be surprised to realize how little combat level matters....

  • 2 weeks later...

Ah, I completly hate runners! Althou I haven't played FOG more then 10 hours in the past 10 month I'm still one of the best 1k foggers and I remember I've only lost 3 times and that was on my early days. I've altmost never run, not even when I'm facing 126s. The only time I do run is when a noob hide or use to much of those portals or a higher lvl runs from me. That just makes me mad! Anyway, I'm 117 cb and I usualy get 160-200 tokens per hour.

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As a "high leveled" person I occasionally went to F2p to get some rating fast in order to obtain new dragon slayer gloves..

 

Being combat 110 (not a clue what my actual f2p combat is, but it's still 100+) I usually got paired with the highest players around, but yes, occasionally with level 40s and such simply because I already got paired with the higher levels (that also were quite far below me).

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