clan and teams, whats the difference?

[generaldesor]

bassicaly a group of friends that cant be in the same clan together because they already got clans so they organize in an unoficial group (team).

 

Well , atleast thats bassicaly how TPR goes.

 

clan=oficial

 

team=not

 

thats why I would never put tpr in like war rankings or something, teams shouldnt be ranked really. Maybe cup-style competitions but not rankings.

[Darkrai]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

You can be in several teams, and up to one clan at the same time. Teams are however less priority, and are usually focused on one goal only.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

LND's a CWA Based team, but other teams (Killjoy, Kenya etc) are PKing Based.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

Depends on what they try to do. CWA Teams don't PK, PKing teams do.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning

No your putting your clan ahead

[Jack]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams?

A team is a bunch of people who want extra fun or wars and who have a community full of friends from other clans, and they put the member's clan events before theirs.

 

2) If you're in a team do you PK?

I'm in Team Power Rangers and Silent Ember, and we sometimes PK in both teams.

 

3)Do you think teams should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

Whatever feels necessary, if it's fun for the team then why not?

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3, then don't you think it is classed as multi clanning?

Absolutely not, as I said for question 1 the team puts their member's clans first then being in a team should be perfectly fine and not considered multi-clanning at all. I joined both TPR and SE to make more friends and to be involved with more wars to pick up more experience in certain situations. I stand behind these decisions as now I'm friendly with lots of members on both teams and being in the teams has benefited me in picking up experience to help lead T0 better.

[zq50]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams

Teams are friends that are in different clans but want to war with each other. And clans are your main runescape priority but you might not have as many friends. Some clans do multi clan though which is bad rep on both clans somebody is in.

 

2) If your in a team do u PK?

Silent ember does. I don't think team vendetta does though.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwa?

Yup. PK only makes everyone better.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

No. Teams are a bunch of friends that want to war with each other without quitting his or hers clan. So basically if i wanted to war with like jst unit01 (my example). I wouldn't quit downfall and join divine forces. first because I don't have the requirements and second I don't want to leave downfall. So I joined his team.

[Danny_TeamDan]

1) What draws the line between clans and teams.

Clans have a hierarchy in decision making. They have more longevity as compared to teams.

(I personally feel a clan adopts itself to the character of there leaders)

2) If your in a team do u PK?

I am not in a team so I cant answer this.

 

3)Do you think team's should be PKing aswell as doing cwar?

It depends on the team.

 

4)If your answer is yes to #3 then dont you think it is classed as multi clanning?

Yes (but since we have a habit of twisting the rules, most people wont agree with me. If a Team does Pking and Cwars it is as good as a clan )

 

 

 

 

 

interesting that most people in a pking/cwa team dont class it as multi clanning and most in none do. 4 years ago it would have been classed as multi clanning and i know changes occur naturally in life and also in rs, just amazed at the big change in this.

 

I think most people just see it as a relatively harmless form of multi-clanning, but they don't want to refer to it as multi-clanning because that phrase has always had extremely negative connotations.

 

@ andy :

Most people posting here are in clans and teams, they wont agree themselves that they multiclan :)

 

@beckingham :

Harmless multi clanning :wub: :wub:

People in teams here have got members from "TWR PARTICIPATING CLANS" where as DV has member from "RSC CLANS" and yet we are termed as multi-clanners. :unsure:

 

Rules on TWR mention "NO member from TWR participating clans" so we dont see ourselves as multi-clanners. :twisted:

 

Unfortunatly your multiclanning isn't harmless It gives you an unfair advantage to recruit skilled warriors and gain more numbers. How is this unfair? Well other clans are stuck recruiting the less experienced that do cwa. With the amount of people who hate DV how do you feel if Downfall allowed top 10 clans to multiclan? It'd be even worse if CR left TWR since they love downfall.

 

I'm not trying to flame you here but rather show you why we think your multiclanning is harming towards the TWR ranking system. But until rules change keep doing what you need to secure those points.

[Deltaer]

interesting that most people in a pking/cwa team dont class it as multi clanning and most in none do. 4 years ago it would have been classed as multi clanning and i know changes occur naturally in life and also in rs, just amazed at the big change in this.

 

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Teams should be banned. From what I can see, some of these pking/warring teams are more active than the clans themselves. And I don't see any difference between clans and teams... it's multiclanning to me, and I don't understand when and why they came about.. like you said, years ago, you'd be kicked and banned on sight if you were in another clan. The older clan era atmosphere would never have allowed for them.

 

So much for clan loyalty these days.

 

And just out of curiosity, for you TPR, SE, whoever team members, how active are your teams? How often do you guys PK (or do whatever you do).

[FairyTail]

Personally, I define a team as a group that specializes in one specific thing. For example CWA teams, boss hunting, Pest Control, Soul Wars, etc. When the team starts spreading to include more functions than I would say it's really a clan and that it is multi-clanning assuming people are not solely in the team same as a clan would be.

 

Nicely put.

This. I use Silent Ember as a way to get better at warring, and I know I have tbh; as well as meet a bunch of new people and compete against different clans in various styles.

 

But I think it's kind of weird joining like 3-4 teams+clan and warring with all of them. I just wonder where the time is to war with all of them and stay active... But to each his/her own.

[MikeyMontana]

I'm currently in 3 teams, Silent Ember, Team Power Rangers, and Team Vendetta.

 

I think teams are about a group of people doing things they like to do. To me, I love to war. That's why I've joined 3 teams. However, sometimes a team can be very strict, which personally I don't like. If its for friends to have fun, why must they have rules like staying active on forums and such. Sure, I understand that its important to the team, but I joined because I wanted to have careless warring fun when I feel like it.

 

I love to war, but sometimes there comes a time to train, and I just don't want to stop training and go to a war for a team. Sorry, that's just my opinion.

[Danny_TeamDan]

interesting that most people in a pking/cwa team dont class it as multi clanning and most in none do. 4 years ago it would have been classed as multi clanning and i know changes occur naturally in life and also in rs, just amazed at the big change in this.

 

+ + + + +

 

Teams should be banned. From what I can see, some of these pking/warring teams are more active than the clans themselves. And I don't see any difference between clans and teams... it's multiclanning to me, and I don't understand when and why they came about.. like you said, years ago, you'd be kicked and banned on sight if you were in another clan. The older clan era atmosphere would never have allowed for them.

 

So much for clan loyalty these days.

 

And just out of curiosity, for you TPR, SE, whoever team members, how active are your teams? How often do you guys PK (or do whatever you do).

 

For tpr we aim to get short preps when we think we'll get a reasonable pull or enough ppl wanting one. We don't pk much but we like to go out for fun, it's nothing different than pking with your friends really, atleast for tpr.

 

Yes let's ban teams, giving your clan less opponents to war that's rather dumb statement. Just because teams are more active than clans doesn't mean the members are, they may have more events to suit everyone in the team so they can all war together but when it comes down to it they are loyal and skip for main clan events.

[indianishere]

The saying "Rules are meant to be BROKEN" is made exactly for TWR Forums.

 

Rules have so many loopholes that "TWISTING" them is fairly easy, if it was not the case, then LND would never have come in existence.

 

Vannakka_1992 is in LND and Downfall, but if we were to point, it would be said he is in LND and not LND TWR list.

And yet he warred in CR vs LND which was on 29th December 2009 and it was supposed to be a TWR fight .

 

Well I don't know what it would be termed now... <_<

[Jack]

The saying "Rules are meant to be BROKEN" is made exactly for TWR Forums.

 

Rules have so many loopholes that "TWISTING" them is fairly easy, if it was not the case, then LND would never have come in existence.

 

Vannakka_1992 is in LND and Downfall, but if we were to point, it would be said he is in LND and not LND TWR list.

And yet he warred in CR vs LND which was on 29th December 2009 and it was supposed to be a TWR fight .

 

Well I don't know what it would be termed now... <_<

 

Pretty sure he wasn't in Downfall then, but keep trying to get others into trouble when you're the ones bending the rules. :thumbup:

[Danny_TeamDan]

The saying "Rules are meant to be BROKEN" is made exactly for TWR Forums.

 

Rules have so many loopholes that "TWISTING" them is fairly easy, if it was not the case, then LND would never have come in existence.

 

Vannakka_1992 is in LND and Downfall, but if we were to point, it would be said he is in LND and not LND TWR list.

And yet he warred in CR vs LND which was on 29th December 2009 and it was supposed to be a TWR fight .

 

Well I don't know what it would be termed now... <_<

 

Please hypocracy is not needed. As Jack states he wasn't in Downfall at the time. Don't complain about 'multiclanners' when you have several.

[CrovaxKing]

 

 

Pretty sure he wasn't in Downfall then

thats because he wasn't.

[andyk47]

this thread wasnt made to point fingers at certain people so please keep that off the thread, thanks.

[Adr1an]

To be honest there is little to no difference between teams and clans these days. I see some say their team is a group of friends that do wars/events together. Isnt that pretty much what a clan is or at least supposed to be? I can understand maybe if a team specializes in a specific thing like CWA but I know clans that will only fight in CWA or only in PVP. Clans can specialize as much as a team can. I see that some people bring up the strict structure of a clan over a team, but I see teams that have FA programs or I see clans that dont control their members at all in terms of rules. There are examples to prove the same is done in teams and in clans.

 

It has gotten to the point where the line between teams and clans is hazy and unclear. I do believe (as many others have stated) that it is simply a name put on something to try to pass it off as something else. Call it a team. Call it a clan. Call it a group of friends. Its pretty much all the same these days. A team is considered multiclanning in my eyes and will always be that way.

 

 

Personally I come from a clan that does not allow multiclanning. We do allow groups with clan in their names like pc clans, soul wars clans, castle wars clans (dont think that has been an issue ever), and monster bossing clans. These clans are seen purely as groups to help in a group effort of getting a goal (exp for personal use, a large scale minigame for fun, or group bossing to make money for personal gain) and I have never seen drama come to a clan over any one of these kinds of clans. The closest would probably be a monster bossing clan I guess. These clans usually do not have official events. The thing is for the most part our clan can cover every aspect of that and I would trust going to say a boss monster more with my clanmates than randoms from a huge group like God Wars Inc.

 

Teams seem to bring drama imo. We do not allow our members to be a part of any clan whether it is a country clan or not. We do not allow our members to be in any teams. They are allowed to pk with friends of course. When our members go out with anyone though they are representing THE and for the most part our clan knows who and who not to hang out with.

 

Our clan is of course more built on community so I can understand why some other clans allow it. I have seen that many people state that teams are for when you are bored and they are for your friends. You are in a clan for a reason arent you? Shouldnt you be developing better relationships with your clanmates? Heck you dont even have to play runescape. There have been plenty times that was have played Dota (wc3 custom game) or played xbox live together. Simply chilling and playing runescape while on ts and irc is what I personally do when there isnt an event going on.

[Guddurulz]

Teams are one of the reason why the clan world is dying.....because people give more time and interested to do events with teams as there is no discipline to follow in teams hence teams are more active then clans ,therefore clans nowadays pulls less options. Another reason to blame team for clan world's slumping because people tend to be more active/dedicated to teams to maintain friendship which is more to specific individuals all they do is put the chat off when their teams and clans having events that clashes!

[Danny_TeamDan]

Teams are one of the reason why the clan world is dying.....because people give more time and interested to do events with teams as there is no discipline to follow in teams hence teams are more active then clans ,therefore clans nowadays pulls less options. Another reason to blame team for clan world's slumping because people tend to be more active/dedicated to teams to maintain friendship which is more to specific individuals all they do is put the chat off when their teams and clans having events that clashes!

 

LMFAO.

 

Thankyou for proving to me how dumb you are, yet once again.

 

If you're in a Team and you skip main clan event then A. Your main clan will strike / kick you.

 

Secondly the clan world is not dying. If it is certainly not because of teams. Let's think about that statement...

 

Get rid of all teams and you get rid of a decent amount of people who are in teams only. Theres even less actual people in the clan world.

 

Now let's think about the competition...

 

You now have 100+ teams that you can no longer war with. So now you are stuck with warring the same people over and over. What happens when bordem arrives? People quit clanning or RS in general. Teams are for people who have time or can manage a main clan and a team. Just because you're in a team doesn't mean you can make every event. That's why TPR has low pulls sometimes, they have main clan events and we respect their main clans and let them go war for them rather than us. In no way in hell are they killing the clan world.

 

Even if your statement was true let's think about that.

 

You said that Teams are really active. LOLOLO OMG CLAN WROLD DYING DUE TO ACTIVE TEAMS OMG OMG THERE IS NO ONE TO WAR / NO ONE TO RECRUIT OMG

 

 

R[]FLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 

Alright now let's think about them ditching for their team and not their main clan..

 

The person obviously has 3 choices when you have a team event and a clan event, they are as follows:

 

-War for Team

-War for Clan

-Ditch both

 

You say they ditch clan and war for team so that =

 

Activity in the clanning world.

 

Ditching team for a main clan =

 

Activity in the clanning world.

 

Ditching both =

 

No activity in the clanning world.

 

The last option obviously would be the reason the clanning world is as you say Dying. Please don't give me the clan world is dying bull [cabbage].

 

You can't say that because there are plenty of cwa clans out there, and don't give me bs about o pvp clans because quite frankly I see you as CWA clanner.

 

EDIT:

 

Just because there are less pvp clans with lower opts doesn't mean the clan world is dying, it means it's taking a cnahge of course: CWA

[generaldesor]

guddurulz your statement is false, I even know alot of teams and country clans like clan europe that will actualy STRIKE YOU if you skip an event of your main clan for them.

[ggohanss77]

Teams aren't as serious as clans.

 

However the line between clans are teams are getting generously close though. It seems like teams are turning into more like clans everyday.

[drinkndrive5]

here's the thing, im f2p now and tbh i get pretty bored of skilling, although tk is very active i still find myself sitting around doing nothing alot so im in se, also it gives me an opportunity to war with friends in other clans. Think what you want about multiclanning, i can see where u are coming from saying that it is but i disagree. Teams in general do not schedule wars, just get quick preps. There is nothing wrong with a team going out to pvp, i think its a good thing. If you think teams should be banned then go ahead and try, im pretty sure u wont be able to get it done without the clan world losing more people