infinitone Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 @pkpeteIt doesn't tip the scales, all those that you posted were all in the 20 people for Collision.why add coll to your ml though They weren't added, they apped time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyblazer Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 @pkpeteIt doesn't tip the scales, all those that you posted were all in the 20 people for Collision.why add coll to your ml though @pkpete Those members in your post were fighting for collision, not lgz... @bravehero They app'd for legendz...and were accepted as members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_TeamDan Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I counted 16 LGZ members, you must realize that having LGZ members join Coll makes Coll their main clan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelKiller Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 seems like lgz has this clear plus they were stil outleveled badly Elite Member of Ascension | Senior Member of Silent Ember | Old School of TPRAscension's Forums | #Rs-Ascension | Ascension's Memberlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitone Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Yellow marks LGZ's 20, others are Collision 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_TeamDan Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 The ones you marked some are Coll FA's, and the rules state you count towards your main clan not your team. Plus ones not on ml and couldn't be bothered to check old rsn so correct me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkpete Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Yellow marks LGZ's 20, others are Collision 20. Cool, speaking of which I believe one of your "Legendz" is another coll, among others I'm sure I missed. You guys cheated, and should be disqualified, then again, cheating ingame in this day of hacking and ddosing is quite original, props to you on that. Hey hey hey, found another one "fighting" for Legendz and another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolAdrian2 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 so that's how lgz mass recruits, by accepting multiclanners huh. I was always wondering how they got of their slump, this explains a lot, lost of respect for lgz. OT: grats on your win. Really?What's the difference between teams and clans? Is it multi clanning if you're in a team and a clan? Or a country clan and a clan? Me and several other Col members joined Legendz because we are completely different clans, and we don't interfere with each other. Collision is 99% pvp and we NEVER do Tip it fights except for this tourney. Meanwhile, Legendz are 99% cwa, and do mostly ALL Tip it fights. Also, our events don't overlap, since Legendz events are usually around 2-3 GMT on weekends, while Col starts at 4-5 eastern. Say what you want, but you're just being ignorant right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitone Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Ok pkpete, im not sure whether your legacy/envy or whatever and the other members of those clans posting, your state is pretty clear as to why you lost the war while being fairly matched in numbers and having a huge level advantage. You have a troll/bait unit but no binds :/ Also, let me note that the Coll Members in LGZ were not added before the war, they've been LGZ members for more than 2 weeks now and have attended some of our recent wars too (other than TICT wars). And same thing with LGZ members that are Coll FAs. Coll members that are in LGZ are Trial Members it doesn't take a genius to know that their main clan is Collision because they are members/higher ranks on there. Similarly, LGZ members that are in Coll are FA's and they are members/higher ranks in LGZ because they are originally in that clan. Gl rebuilding legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I'm in the process of removing spam/pointless off topic flames, in case you wonder where your post has gone. We have received complaints regarding the confusion in memberlists and will post on this topic mid-afternoon tomorrow, roughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyCS Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Oh, my bad. Thought you guys beat us fair and square. Kinda sad you had to use Coll to bolster LGZ. Guess you shoulda read rules. Suppose it's a DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thehitman324 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Oh, my bad. Thought you guys beat us fair and square. Kinda sad you had to use Coll to bolster LGZ. Guess you shoulda read rules. Suppose it's a DQ. We did not war for LGZ.The original col members in LGZ,me, bl4z1ng, rice rabbi, furioust and lonelyboy0 fought for col.The rest of the coll group that joined lgz warred as well. And they didn't join before the tourny, it was after it started. 3 Years Strong<3 PM TheHitman|Will in #downfall at swiftirc if your interested in a fight against Downfall Clan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyCS Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I love how you say we cheated. I mean i'd understand if we cheated and outleveled you guys or had some sort of advantage, but the fact is at the start of this war you had every advantage on your side yet you still got destroyed. The definition of a clan/multiclanning is obviously subjective and your arrogance has led you to believe that your ideology of a clan/multiclanning is what we are supposed to abide by. LGZ is a solely cwa-based clan (we do not do pvp at all) meaning its members cannot join other CWA clans. Contrary, Coll is a pvp-based clan meaning its members cannot join other PVP clans. If you want to say thats multi-clanning i can say your members being in a PC clan is multi-clanning then or any other minigame for that matter. As much as tip.it clans would like to believe higher levels = wins, it doesn't. It's about organization. Therefore if two separate clans have 20 and one clan has 25 and another 15. One clan works much better together (Collision I would say is the most experienced clan of all four of us and I would definitely be willing to say a hell of a lot better than all three of us). Therefore they would have the advantage if they had more members together than any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintimme1 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 <infinitone> you there?<Venomous> ?<infinitone> lgz is not a team<infinitone> its a clan<infinitone> i never told you its a team<infinitone> its a cwa clan<Venomous> i know<infinitone> clear that up with this troll 'dandaman' then<Venomous> i have before gg bro, gg. K thanks for confirming that poison is desperate for 3 opts and allows multiclanners. Excuse me, desperate? Obviously you aren't smart enough when you don't understand "CWA" clan, Poison is a clan that does countless pvp action. I went over this with Infinitone when he first joined, and we both made sure we understood that Legendz is only a cwa clan, a clan with other people coming in from main clans. I would really use smarter words before posting if I were you, you're also saying collision is multi clanning too ? Now stop bringing Poison into this. Stop looking for excuses too, I was watching this fight, and regardless of whoever joined from Collision, LGz had about 3+ 105s+ in their pile and they had a string of ko's on you. Collision members that applied to LG doesn't effect the outcome of how your members got ko'd. Grats collision + Lgz, good try legacy + envy. We aren't making excuses that our performance was bad. Yes, we did get outperformed by LGZ + Coll. But it comes down to rule breaking and disqualification by having multiple members on two ML's in which both clans happen to be teamed up for this fight. From what I do remember, you said you'd talk to Infinitone about the whole multi-clanning thing or whatever. You seemed pretty sure of it before as we were talking about it on #Justintime that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Oh, my bad. Thought you guys beat us fair and square. Kinda sad you had to use Coll to bolster LGZ. Guess you shoulda read rules. Suppose it's a DQ. We did not war for LGZ.The original col members in LGZ,me, bl4z1ng, rice rabbi, furioust and lonelyboy0 fought for col. With all due respect, if you're going to quote me, include the entirety of the log: [hide][19:20] <CS> I'll explain what I mean particularly[19:20] <CS> Team is Legendz[19:20] <CS> Clan is Collision01[19:20] <Ninane> The stronger clan has their members join the weaker team so they can bypass the 20 limit?[19:21] <CS> Collision put 7 members inside of LGZ[19:21] <CS> to bolster the roster01[19:21] <Ninane> They must war for Collision[19:21] <CS> ah01[19:21] <Ninane> It's in the rules[19:21] <CS> so if they war for LGZ01[19:21] <Ninane> They cannot war for LGZ01[19:21] <Ninane> At all[19:21] <CS> thanks[19:21] <CS> :DSession Close: Mon Feb 15 19:22:39 2010[/hide] Like you, I was under the impression that Legendz was considered a Community/CWA Team. If they are claiming to be a clan and cannot be proven otherwise, what I said might not apply. As mentioned, you can rest assured that we are looking into this, but please keep it on topic and continue to PM evidence to the Clan Staff. Posting it here's just going to churn more baits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyCS Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Oh, my bad. Thought you guys beat us fair and square. Kinda sad you had to use Coll to bolster LGZ. Guess you shoulda read rules. Suppose it's a DQ. We did not war for LGZ.The original col members in LGZ,me, bl4z1ng, rice rabbi, furioust and lonelyboy0 fought for col. With all due respect, if you're going to quote me, include the entirety of the log: [hide][19:20] <CS> I'll explain what I mean particularly[19:20] <CS> Team is Legendz[19:20] <CS> Clan is Collision01[19:20] <Ninane> The stronger clan has their members join the weaker team so they can bypass the 20 limit?[19:21] <CS> Collision put 7 members inside of LGZ[19:21] <CS> to bolster the roster01[19:21] <Ninane> They must war for Collision[19:21] <CS> ah01[19:21] <Ninane> It's in the rules[19:21] <CS> so if they war for LGZ01[19:21] <Ninane> They cannot war for LGZ01[19:21] <Ninane> At all[19:21] <CS> thanks[19:21] <CS> :DSession Close: Mon Feb 15 19:22:39 2010[/hide] Like you, I was under the impression that Legendz was considered a Community/CWA Team. If they are claiming to be a clan and cannot be proven otherwise, what I said might not apply. As mentioned, you can rest assured that we are looking into this, but please keep it on topic and continue to PM evidence to the Clan Staff. Posting it here's just going to churn more baits. What about the pic with the coll fa's in them? Or is that false? I just cut the crap out with the hello and bolstering part but I certainly could add the whole log. There you go. Also if they were both main clans. That makes it even worse with multi clanning. Yours provided no better than the first one. I just hit the meat of it l0l . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrovaxKing Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 With all due respect, if you're going to quote me, include the entirety of the log: [hide][19:20] <CS> I'll explain what I mean particularly[19:20] <CS> Team is Legendz[19:20] <CS> Clan is Collision01[19:20] <Ninane> The stronger clan has their members join the weaker team so they can bypass the 20 limit?[19:21] <CS> Collision put 7 members inside of LGZ[19:21] <CS> to bolster the roster01[19:21] <Ninane> They must war for Collision[19:21] <CS> ah01[19:21] <Ninane> It's in the rules[19:21] <CS> so if they war for LGZ01[19:21] <Ninane> They cannot war for LGZ01[19:21] <Ninane> At all[19:21] <CS> thanks[19:21] <CS> :DSession Close: Mon Feb 15 19:22:39 2010[/hide] Like you, I was under the impression that Legendz was considered a Community/CWA Team. If they are claiming to be a clan and cannot be proven otherwise, what I said might not apply. As mentioned, you can rest assured that we are looking into this, but please keep it on topic and continue to PM evidence to the Clan Staff. Posting it here's just going to churn more baits. infinitone, on 15 February 2010 - 10:09 PM, said: <infinitone> you there?<Venomous> ?<infinitone> lgz is not a team<infinitone> its a clan<infinitone> i never told you its a team<infinitone> its a cwa clan<Venomous> i know<infinitone> clear that up with this troll 'dandaman' then<Venomous> i have before gg bro, gg.----------this looks a bit complicated but if I understand this right ninane is saying that only if they are a team are they allowed to do that, but if infinitone is saying they are a "cwa clan" and not a team then it seems they can't do that? #-o CK Forums | CK Memberlist | #Cknights 105+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAnarchy Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Grats Coll+Lgz Ascension Forums || IRC: #rs-ascension on SwiftIRC || Ascension Memberlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imblooded Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Gratz Coll + Lgz........I think...... #-o Current Tempted Killers Council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machamp195 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 goodjob coll+lgz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaaaaaa Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 gratz gl in r2 AWAY ATM =[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Lots of arguing and debating. :o I was always wondering why Legendz had some Coll trial members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shutai Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 lol nice, grats :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~~~Proud Ex-Council of Tempted Killers, There Since Day One~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~No Regrets, Only Memories ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacesso Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Requesting that legacy stop posting. We lost and no amount of [bleep]ing will change that fact.We were outclassed, whether they were on the same memberlists or not. Stop whining trying to get them DQ'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Good job Collided Legendz. :thumbup: Wow, we never accepted any multiclanners when I was there. Sad to see a good clan become a team or a nh clan to get such advantages. :sad: Genesis LeaderEnding Templar & Trial Caller of The RisingEx-Leader of Silent Ember - Ex-Leader of True Ownage - Ex-Leader of LegendzFormer Tip.It Clan Community Leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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