Nero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 It's also largely effected by where the battle is taking place. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 In order to stop this from getting too far: A MOAB would turn it to shrapnell, end of story. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I fail to see how a strip of land in Jordan can destroy a battleship. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Ok, a Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb would turn it to shrapnell. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 *sigh* It's essentially a nuclear weapon. Has the same destructive capabilities of it. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 The sea doesn't really have much terrain. Any smart admiral will stay out of reefs, so that's out of the window, and storms basically affect both sides equally... I think you're confusing strategy and tactics, Dusty. You just need to do something like "If the enemy ships do X, then we do Y, if not, then use plan Z which I told you about earlier. If the chance is given, activate W, wherupon my forces shall retreat to point V, do U, and begin preperations for T" Where the enemy is doesn't particularly matter. You just need to include another instruction in case of a certain terrain type IE "If there is a reef nearby, try to move around it so the enemy cannot engage us at close range" That is more or less what I've been doing, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 But it uses conventional explosives. To be a nuclear weapon it'd have to use either fission or fusion to amplify the blast, what the MOAB and other such explosives use is rapid combustion. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 and your thinking of launching a friggen missle in medival times. archi ponly has explosive barrels. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hampton_Roads Doesn't destroy the other ship in 'a second' but destroys two contemporary battleships while sustaining minimal damage itself...and would doubtlessly be able to destroy many more battleships.Which was the only thing I claimed they were able to do. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 and your thinking of launching a friggen missle in medival times. archi ponly has explosive barrels.We were talking about vs. a modern battleship, a modern rocket launcher would be all that it took to take out a galley. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 and this makes sense to ahve a conversation on modern day weapons in a friggen medival RP? Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 and your thinking of launching a friggen missle in medival times. archi ponly has explosive barrels.We were talking about vs. a modern battleship, a modern rocket launcher would be all that it took to take out a galley.Or a Hlaupari firebomb. :twisted: 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hampton_Roads Doesn't destroy the other ship in 'a second' but destroys two contemporary battleships while sustaining minimal damage itself...and would doubtlessly be able to destroy many more battleships.Which was the only thing I claimed they were able to do.Once Ironclads came into play then they became the ship of the technological time period. But it uses conventional explosives. To be a nuclear weapon it'd have to use either fission or fusion to amplify the blast, what the MOAB and other such explosives use is rapid combustion.You don't read much, do you? The sea doesn't really have much terrain. Any smart admiral will stay out of reefs, so that's out of the window, and storms basically affect both sides equally... I think you're confusing strategy and tactics, Dusty.What's visibility at? Is there fog? What time of day is it? Are we close to shore? How long would it take reinforcements to come up? Is the water choppy or calm?Plenty of ways that tactics in a sea battle can depend on the terrain. And no, I'm not. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Oh, ok. My bad. I guess my Thunder Rays are the ship of the era then. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Exactly. So, we've advanced into the Renaissance era, so everyone will soon get Arquebus'. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I am not sure thats how technology works...I am pretty sure the Aztecs didn't see the Spainyards and advance to the contemporary modern era when they saw cannons. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Of course not, because they were in completely different continents and had none of the means to replicate it. However, Spain and Crete is hardly similar to Spain and the Aztecs. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I don't know....Crete has advanced technology, Spain doesn't....The parallels are definately there. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Dusty, you're just trolling now. Everyone else (I accept that this means myself too), we should stop replying to anything he says about this. The game doesn't even work on a "ship of the age" system that way. It's secret technology, that one nation has, and it uses gunpowder. Archi, can we just tell him the propulsion method? 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 But it uses conventional explosives. To be a nuclear weapon it'd have to use either fission or fusion to amplify the blast, what the MOAB and other such explosives use is rapid combustion.You don't read much, do you?No, cuz saing I read much would be like saying a nuclear war would kill many people. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 I will just confirm that Archi does not have Ironclads. :thumbup: Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexaduro Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I now own those two tiny islands between Iceland and Europe. :thumbup: Someone update the map? 10:53 PM - retech9691: I feel the need10:53 PM - retech9691: To include many chasms in my story arc10:53 PM - Resistance: You mean plotholes? Remember, Remember, the 4th of NovemberRIP Dawngate ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 No, cuz saing I read much would be like saying a nuclear war would kill many people.... Dusty, you're just trolling now. Everyone else (I accept that this means myself too), we should stop replying to anything he says about this. The game doesn't even work on a "ship of the age" system that way. It's secret technology, that one nation has, and it uses gunpowder. Archi, can we just tell him the propulsion method?Why is it that whenever an argument comes up on the internet, someone always just instinctively yells 'z0mg troll don't respond!!' And if it uses gunpowder then why would you start a 2 page argument before saying it didn't use gunpowder? Oh I know, trolling! I don't know....Crete has advanced technology, Spain doesn't....The paralles are definately there.Not really. The Aztecs were a tribal dictatorship with a limited range of technology. Spain is a feudal monarchy that is only behind in technology when dealing with this single ship. The parallels are definitely not there. I now own those two tiny islands between Iceland and Europe.How. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 They were uninhabited, so he just claimed them. :thumbup: Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 A typo on doesn't? Anyway, last post on the matter (since Retech ultimately decides things not us). Spain is maybe 30 years behind Crete, which isn't that long in History....Look at the Soviet Union. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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