UK isnt the first O_o

 

But yeah its good to know that more countries follow after countries like the Netherlands

this isn't the right direction. right direction would be government stepping away from religion. stick to separation between church and state

this isn't the right direction. right direction would be government stepping away from religion. stick to separation between church and state

Consider it a baby step then.

this isn't the right direction. right direction would be government stepping away from religion. stick to separation between church and state

Consider it a baby step then.

 

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Yay, let's promote aids and children possibly having to grow up without a real mother.

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Yay, let's promote aids and children possibly having to grow up without a real mother.

 

 

Surely a stable family unit is more important than the genders involved. Homosexuality in no way 'promotes' STD's either.

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Yay, let's promote aids and children possibly having to grow up without a real mother.

 

 

Surely a stable family unit is more important than the genders involved. Homosexuality in no way 'promotes' STD's either.

 

Don't feed the troll

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Yay, let's promote aids and children possibly having to grow up without a real mother.

I'm not pro-gay marriage as some probably know, but that was a rather obtuse comment and commentary presented like that is key as to why the most intelligent topics on this forum usually deteriorate into repetitive and insulting shouting matches.

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

 

You know, as much as I think this IS a move in the right direction that statement made me realize something.

 

 

1) I scrolled down and saw Rocco already said this. it's technically a move in the left direction XD

 

2) In a sense that is a subjective titled.

 

but im tired and itchy. so idk wanna debate this

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

 

You know, as much as I think this IS a move in the right direction that statement made me realize something.

 

 

1) I scrolled down and saw Rocco already said this. it's technically a move in the left direction XD

 

2) In a sense that is a subjective titled.

 

but im tired and itchy. so idk wanna debate this

 

It obviously is subjective. :)

 

It's my opinion, I just stated it in the title.

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Yay, let's promote aids and children possibly having to grow up without a real mother.

 

 

Surely a stable family unit is more important than the genders involved. Homosexuality in no way 'promotes' STD's either.

 

Yeah, and I don't think that child will be very stable when he or she starts school, and other kids find out he lives with a gay family. Ok maybe it doesn't promote them, but it definately increases them.

 

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Yay, let's promote aids and children possibly having to grow up without a real mother.

 

 

Surely a stable family unit is more important than the genders involved. Homosexuality in no way 'promotes' STD's either.

 

Don't feed the troll

 

Logic?

 

Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Yay, let's promote aids and children possibly having to grow up without a real mother.

I'm not pro-gay marriage as some probably know, but that was a rather obtuse comment and commentary presented like that is key as to why the most intelligent topics on this forum usually deteriorate into repetitive and insulting shouting matches.

 

Obtuse comment? It's called an opinion, I kinda remember a very "obtuse" thread you created, something like "Everybody draw Mohammed day"?

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Explain to me how exactly this a move in the right direction?

 

Inequality is somewhat decreased.

Yay, let's promote aids and children possibly having to grow up without a real mother.

 

 

Surely a stable family unit is more important than the genders involved. Homosexuality in no way 'promotes' STD's either.

 

Don't feed the troll

 

Logic?

 

 

 

It's pretty obvious by your post history that you're a troll.

 

 

Keep feeding him though everyone

Guys skully isn't a troll. And there are two kind of trolls:

 

 

Fun loving trolls (me/skully)

 

Malicious trolls: (4chan I guess?) Malicious ones post bad links and everything. People like me and skully just are rarely serious.

 

 

But skully, to be honest it doesn't promote stds anymore than normal marriages. Because gay men are going to have sex married or not, with kids or not, but they're not going to turn their kids gay or anything. So really it's not promoting or (demoting? anti-promoting?) stds at all.

 

 

But people remember, people are free to think what they think. Don't call Skully a troll because he doesn't like gay marriage thats being a bigot, whether you like it or not.

 

 

But people remember, people are free to think what they think. Don't call Skully a troll because he doesn't like gay marriage thats being a bigot, whether you like it or not.

 

No, I'm fairly certain he's a troll

Guys skully isn't a troll. And there are two kind of trolls:

 

 

Fun loving trolls (me/skully)

 

Malicious trolls: (4chan I guess?) Malicious ones post bad links and everything. People like me and skully just are rarely serious.

 

 

But skully, to be honest it doesn't promote stds anymore than normal marriages. Because gay men are going to have sex married or not, with kids or not, but they're not going to turn their kids gay or anything. So really it's not promoting or (demoting? anti-promoting?) stds at all.

 

 

But people remember, people are free to think what they think. Don't call Skully a troll because he doesn't like gay marriage thats being a bigot, whether you like it or not.

 

I see what your saying, but, the child will probably grow up thinking it is right to be gay, therefore promoting STDs somewhat.

 

 

 

But people remember, people are free to think what they think. Don't call Skully a troll because he doesn't like gay marriage thats being a bigot, whether you like it or not.

 

No, I'm fairly certain he's a troll

 

Well if i've pissed you off i've achieved something in my time here. :)

Guys skully isn't a troll. And there are two kind of trolls:

 

 

Fun loving trolls (me/skully)

 

Malicious trolls: (4chan I guess?) Malicious ones post bad links and everything. People like me and skully just are rarely serious.

 

 

But skully, to be honest it doesn't promote stds anymore than normal marriages. Because gay men are going to have sex married or not, with kids or not, but they're not going to turn their kids gay or anything. So really it's not promoting or (demoting? anti-promoting?) stds at all.

 

 

But people remember, people are free to think what they think. Don't call Skully a troll because he doesn't like gay marriage thats being a bigot, whether you like it or not.

 

I see what your saying, but, the child will probably grow up thinking it is right to be gay, therefore promoting STDs somewhat.

 

 

 

But people remember, people are free to think what they think. Don't call Skully a troll because he doesn't like gay marriage thats being a bigot, whether you like it or not.

 

No, I'm fairly certain he's a troll

 

Well if i've pissed you off i've achieved something in my time here. :)

 

 

Wait do you think its a choice? In that case i understand, but if not then I'm confused. Like a blown fuse. =\

By the logic of gay parents = think it is right to be gay.

 

Nobody would be gay because straight parents would equal think straight is right gay is wrong.

 

Plus since when did it become right and wrong? its not a choice, it just is.

Could you at least explain this, Skully?

 

• I see what your saying, but, the child will probably grow up thinking it is right to be gay, therefore promoting STDs somewhat.

God forbid a gay kid grows up without the feelings of guilt and self-hatred that are to be norm. Or maybe you are under the impression kids would start choosing to be gay?

 

I also can't understand where your argument about having gay parents comes from. The original topic is not about adoption, but about civil partnerships/marriages. It's okay if you are against these movements, but it sounds to me you don't even know what you are arguing against right now. :|

Could you at least explain this, Skully?

 

• I see what your saying, but, the child will probably grow up thinking it is right to be gay, therefore promoting STDs somewhat.

God forbid a gay kid grows up without the feelings of guilt and self-hatred that are to be norm. Or maybe you are under the impression kids would start choosing to be gay?

 

I also can't understand where your argument about having gay parents comes from. The original topic is not about adoption, but about civil partnerships/marriages. It's okay if you are against these movements, but it sounds to me you don't even know what you are arguing against right now. :|

To be honest, I don't really know myself how it got into that, I guess i'm thinking that more gay mariages = they adopt or something, but i'll explain that comment for you.

 

I think it is right to be straight and wrong to be gay simply because of nature. How could the human race continue to be superior if there were more and more gay familys popping up everywhere? I mean, kids mimic their parents right? If some kids were to grow up with gay 'parents' then they would probably think this is normal and grow up thinking like this without even considering being straight. As for the choice question; I think if kids were to grow up adopted with gay families it would certainly become more of a choice rather than in your head. It's like nature vs nurture for me.

Could you at least explain this, Skully?

 

• I see what your saying, but, the child will probably grow up thinking it is right to be gay, therefore promoting STDs somewhat.

God forbid a gay kid grows up without the feelings of guilt and self-hatred that are to be norm. Or maybe you are under the impression kids would start choosing to be gay?

 

I also can't understand where your argument about having gay parents comes from. The original topic is not about adoption, but about civil partnerships/marriages. It's okay if you are against these movements, but it sounds to me you don't even know what you are arguing against right now. :|

To be honest, I don't really know myself how it got into that, I guess i'm thinking that more gay mariages = they adopt or something, but i'll explain that comment for you.

 

I think it is right to be straight and wrong to be gay simply because of nature. How could the human race continue to be superior if there were more and more gay familys popping up everywhere? I mean, kids mimic their parents right? If some kids were to grow up with gay 'parents' then they would probably think this is normal and grow up thinking like this without even considering being straight. I think if kids were to grow up adopted with gay families it would certainly become more of a choice rather than in your head. It's like nature vs nurture for me.

 

Why don't gay kids to straight parents mimic them?

 

 

Sexual orientation is not a choice. Kids to gay parents will think being gay is normal, but that does not mean they'll grow up to be gay, or that they'd think being straight is abnormal.

I think it is right to be straight and wrong to be gay simply because of nature.

Why do you care so much what other people do with their genitals?

 

Like seriously... who cares.

if you claim not to care, dont make legislation that discriminates against them.

 

You can make an argument about nature, but who cares.

be it a choice or not, thats how theyre going to live their lives, and no one has any right to discriminate them.

Well see thats based on two things:

 

 

1) Sexual orientation is based on parental sexual orientation, which is that was true, there would be no more gay kids born.

 

2) Gay couples are even more understanding than straight in many ways, I actually know a couple (albeit it online and not irl) who has a gay son, and a straight son, and a straight daughter. And they encourage all three of them to do what they want, and to love who they want. And tbh they might be complete psychos irl (they live in California) but even if they are, many gay couples are like that. I do know that most gay couples assume their children (whether adopted or born via a surrogate) are straight. And typically if they have a straight son etc they have their lesbian/straight friends tell them what girls like.

 

 

*site note. these are gay couples. I don't know any lesbian couples at this time*

Could you at least explain this, Skully?

 

• I see what your saying, but, the child will probably grow up thinking it is right to be gay, therefore promoting STDs somewhat.

God forbid a gay kid grows up without the feelings of guilt and self-hatred that are to be norm. Or maybe you are under the impression kids would start choosing to be gay?

 

I also can't understand where your argument about having gay parents comes from. The original topic is not about adoption, but about civil partnerships/marriages. It's okay if you are against these movements, but it sounds to me you don't even know what you are arguing against right now. :|

To be honest, I don't really know myself how it got into that, I guess i'm thinking that more gay mariages = they adopt or something, but i'll explain that comment for you.

 

I think it is right to be straight and wrong to be gay simply because of nature. How could the human race continue to be superior if there were more and more gay familys popping up everywhere? I mean, kids mimic their parents right? If some kids were to grow up with gay 'parents' then they would probably think this is normal and grow up thinking like this without even considering being straight. I think if kids were to grow up adopted with gay families it would certainly become more of a choice rather than in your head. It's like nature vs nurture for me.

 

Why don't gay kids to straight parents mimic them?

 

 

Sexual orientation is not a choice. Kids to gay parents will think being gay is normal, but that does not mean they'll grow up to be gay, or that the they'd think being straight is abnormal.

 

Yeah the whole mimic parents and thus becomes a choice argument falls down at the fact straight parents have gay children.

 

Equally the whole not natural argument is flawed in that homosexual behaviour and mating has been observed in nearly every documented species on earth.