Grim_ Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 It was on the 13th retech (I keep a log of budgets in a PM with dusty) EDIT: If I remember correctly they happen once every four days or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Okay I had 9 million when I left, my budget is 22,600,000, and I have missed two budget resets meaning I have to spend 54,200,000 *Whistles* Research - 10,000,000 44,200,000 British Army: Colonial Army 4,000 line infantry3,000 dragoons2,000 skirmishers1,000 Fusilers10 Cannons Royal Army 4,000 Imperial Guards2,000 fusiliers4,000 dragoons10 cannon Redcoats 2,000 fusilers. Time to buy some stuff. I move the 4,000 Dragoons from the Royal Army to the Redcoats, and then replace them with 3,000 Cuirassiers, costing me 10,000,000, I then buy 10 cannons, costing me 5,000,000 I then buy 5,000 Line infantry costing me 5,000,000 I then buy 2,000 Grenadiers costing me 3,000,0000. I then buy 3,0000 Skirmishers, costing me 3,600,000 and then 2,000 Lancers costing me 4,000,000 Costing a grand total of 25,100,000 Redcoats 2,000 Fusilers4,000 Dragoons10 Cannons5,000 Line Infantry2,000 Grenadiers3,000 Skirmishers2,000 Lancers Royal Army 4,000 Imperial Guards2,000 fusiliers3,000 Cuirassiers10 cannon I then buy 1,000 Fusilers, 1,000 Lancers, 6,000 Line Infantry, 2,000 Skirmishers, costing another grand total of 11,600,000 Army costs - 36,700,000 Cash left 7,500,000 Colonial Army 10,000 Line Infantry3,000 Dragoons4,000 Skirmishers2,000 Fusilers10 Cannons1,000 Lancers Grand Total of Troops Line Infantry - 15,000Fusilers - 6,000Skirmishers - 7,000Grenadiers - 2,000Imperial Guard - 4,000 Dragoons - 7,000Hussars - 0Lancers - 3,000Cuirassiers - 3,000 Total: 47,000 It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Archi, the imperials are very broke. Say they went back on a deal with you.Focus on another enemy, create an internal evil for the people to rally against. Do it quickly. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 If it were that simple then I would...but I am playing by honour, and if they leads to the destruction of my country then so be it....Prefer to die off now than sell out on roleplaying. Other enemies that are revolutionary include...Spain, Portugal and Russia...Denmark is the only other country to fight, but that poses no great victory of reasonableness over the revolutionary...nor does it provide the ability to get around a table and sign a peace deal with the rebels to preserve the stability of the country. So the actual point of such a war is non existant. Internal Evil such as what exactly? Prussia is, by its nature, the most stable country at the moment...inventing some phantom evil is gonna backfire...Might as well pyrically die defending Imperial France. So I am safe in the knowladge that, if Russia and Spain attack, I am reasonably prepared for a war that I can defend against until my motives are plain to see, at which point hopefully peace can be re-established and no one gets kicked out of the game. If you have indeed got Austria on your side, then I am safe in the knowladge that there is nothing I can do to defend myself, thus will get killed for standing while I had the chance to fight. Since an Austria-Russian alliance will mean that I can do very little from now on if one of them disapprove, and since I don't have a habit of tratiously asking people to betray people...Nor would I trust Edel...it would remain like that until the game ended, most probably. Thus, with me roleplaying, and everyone else having a total lack of willingness to give any ground, I am forced into a taking a low odds gamble or walking away from the table...and since I am only risking my seat at the table, I might as well take the gamble. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I'll have to think about the offer. Spain asks for an official ceasefire until a decision is reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Between Spain and Britain or between America Spain and Britain? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Empress Catherine the Great scoffs at the size of Britain's puny army. (On the forum) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Britain scoffs at the size of Russia's navy, they then state that Russian troops are of lower quality to the British. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Russia notes that with the reformation and the uproot of the nobles, it is possible that is not true anymore. Finally, Russia has ten more cannon. :thumbup: Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Truthfully, I had a huge military list ready of what I was going to buy, worked it all out, then realised "Oh crap I forgot the research!" So I lost 10 million worth of troops, then I was like "Oh crap! Deployment!" So yeah :P I would have 10 more cannons and 1000 more fusilers and 1000 more of the expensive calvalry, but I hasn't got the money. I also originally planned to increase my navy, with the new three deck ships, but that'll wait till next budget. Oh yeah, what is your army size, I've never seen it posted on the forum :S. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I've already subtracted research, and I always keep a fund for two deployments. :P Cuirassiers? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Yes them. Anyway, what is the size of your almighty army then? It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 All I will say is, larger than yours. :P Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Oh. Though I thought you had to post armies on the forum, that is the only reason I've been doing it O-o. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Well if Dusty makes it a rule and we start posting our armies, then I will post my army. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 You do. I've just been forgetful in transfering PM posts to the forum. Update: Revolutionaries burn more villages in Northern France (Normandy) for no apparent reason, turning the local populations against them.-Rev. France loses 1 province in Northern France from the list of revolutionary influenced provinces from these actions-Denmark quashes its Revolution in the early stages-A 12,000 strong Swedish noble army is raised, and revolts against the King of Sweden who has done abolutely nothing for the past 10+ years (if they succeed Ross is kicked from the game for inactivity)-Prussia mobilizes its army Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Okay, here's my army. Imperial Russian Army of Saint Petersburg 10,000 Line Infantry3,000 Skirmishers2,000 Hussars3,000 Lancers2,000 Fusiliers1,000 Dragoons12 Cannons Imperial Russian Army of Moscow 10,000 Line Infantry3,000 Skirmishers2,000 Hussars3,000 Lancers2,000 Fusiliers1,000 Dragoons10 Cannons Imperial Russian Army of Poland 10,000 Line Infantry3,000 Skirmishers2,000 Hussars3,000 Lancers2,000 Fusiliers1,000 Dragoons10 Cannons Polish Provincial Army of Poland 10,000 Line Infantry3,000 Skirmishers2,000 Hussars3,000 Lancers2,000 Fusiliers1,000 Dragoons10 Cannons Cossack Provincial Army of Ukraine2,000 Cossack Carbiners2,000 Cossacks (Sabre)6,000 Raiding Cossacks (Sabre) Old Russian Imperial Reserve 2,500 Cuirassiers4,000 Imperial Guard ---- For the Swedish rebellion, is the Swedish army that existed when the game began fighting against them? If so, I think I remember a situation before when the nobles were rebelling... Hmmmmmmmmm. Could we have the numbers for the army? (Like number of each kind of soldier) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Army of Mexico (General Mendez - Winter Specialist)5,000 line infantry1,000 Grenadiers1,000 Skirmishers2,000 Fusiliers1,000 Cuirassiers1,000 Dragoons2,000 Hussars5 cannons Army of Brazillia (General Vaquero)5,000 Line infantry1,000 Grenadiers1,000 Skirmishers1,000 Fusiliers1,000 Dragoons Army of Madrid (General Gomez)10,260 line infantry2,000 fusiliers1,000 grenadiers3,000 hussars1,000 Skirmishers15 cannons Now to work out how much money I have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 For the Swedish rebellion, is the Swedish army that existed when the game began fighting against them? If so, I think I remember a situation before when the nobles were rebelling... Hmmmmmmmmm. Could we have the numbers for the army? (Like number of each kind of soldier)Only Ross can deal with this one. ----- Prussian invasion of Revolutionary France and the Second Battle of Versailles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBll0rh4nM&feature=related February 8th , 1787. Under the joint command of General Paulus and General Von Santa Klause, a Prussian army marched through the HRE and into France and attacked the Revolutionary Stronghold of Versailles. En route they were met by the remnants of the French Imperial Army who joined along side them. At Versailles stood the still not reinforced Revolutionary army, who was now facing an army double their size under capable Prussian Generals. The Second Battle of Versailles, February 8th, 1787 Revolutionary France - General Virieu (Defensive Doctrine)5,000/7,000 Revolutionary guard (Young Guard)6,000/10,000 Mercenary Line Infantry1,000/3,000 Cuirassier500/1,000 Skirmishers20 Cannon4500/5000 Polish Lancers (General Gryzbow) Prussia – General Rommel (Cavalry commander)3,000 Curissars2,000 Dragoons1,000 Lances Prussia – Paulus(Fortress Breaker) /Von Santa Klause(Offensive Doctrine)2,000 Skirmishers2,000 Fusiliers8,000 Line Infantry2,000 Imperial Guards15 Cannons1,000 Quicklime Grenadiers Imperial France – King Louis XVI (Cavalry Commander)3,000/8,000 line infantry4,000/8,000 fusiliers1,000/2,000 skirmishers500/4,000 cuirassiers25 cannon General Virieu had been camped outside Versailles and was caught by surprise by the swift Prussian attack, and had to march quickly so as to prevent the Prussians from reaching the city before his artillery was inside, and as the two (well, three) armies met on the field outside of Versailles, it became readily apparent to General Virieu that he was horridly outnumbered, and so he deployed his infantry to guard his artillery that was making its way inside the walls. The Prussian and French leadership, recognizing that they had the opportunity to sting the already weakened Revolutionary army (from their battle with the Imperials the year before), began rapidly deploying their own infantry. The Prussian and French cannon had complete control of the battlefield at this point, as the Revolutionary army was hastily pulling theirs into the city, and so the cannonade began to inflict heavy damage on the revolutionary army (500 skirmishers killed, morale loss). Out from the flank of the French infantry’s position came General Rommel’s cavalry brigade, forcing the French right flank into square from the threat of a cavalry charge, and the Prussian/French cannon shifted onto this position. The cannons slammed back on their carriages and ripped through the Revolutionary’s right flank. The Polish and Russian lancers were ordered to attack Rommel’s brigade but General Gryzbow refused and instead led his cavalry off the field and into Versailles, unsure of whether the Czaress even wanted him at this battle, let alone fighting in it. The withdraw was further complicated even further as 1,000 Prussian grenadiers armed with quicklime charged the revolutionary line and tossed their chemical grenades into the enemy line. The quicklime grenadiers were killed in droves, but they accomplished their objective as the center of the French line began to take steps back to get outside the range of the quicklime’s effects. Prussian and French line infantry seized on this opportunity and began to advance, peppering the withdrawing French center (held by the Revolutionary’s Young Guard) with musket fire. On the Revolutionary’s left flank came the Prussian Imperial Guard, easily driving back the mercenary line infantry that stood against them. The Revolutionary line was close to breaking, but thankfully for General Virieu his last artillery piece had managed to get inside the wall, and so he ordered his men back in good order. The Revolutionaries obeyed part of that order, running like mad in through the gates of the city, pursued by General Rommel’s cavalry brigade that slashed and cut at the mob that made its way through the gates. The only battalions that managed to maintain a semblance of order were the Young Guards, who took significantly less casualties because of it. Eventually those inside closed the gates on the last revolutionaries (who were promptly slaughtered or captured by Rommel’s brigade before the cavalry was driven off by musket fire from the walls). At that point, General Paulus (Fortress Breaker) took over command of the joint Prussia/Imperial French army, and is leading the siege of Versailles. A breach is predicted to be ready for assault in 3 months (12 hours irl). Result:Tactical Victory: Prussia/Imperial FranceStrategic Victory: None Casualties:Prussia:1,000 Quicklime Grenadiers500 Line infantry500 Dragoons Imperial France:300 Skirmishers Revolutionary France:2,000 Mercenary Line infantry1,000 Young Guard500 Skirmishers Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 The Polish lancers had already withdrawn. They're part of the Polish armies already. (As evidenced by the fact that I added them to my armies, rather than as "expeditionary force") Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Prussia, we are giving you an ultimatum. Back down now or face war with Spain and Russia. ICU, I accept your peace terms. New map. Spain colonizes provinces in Africa, S. America and N. America. Spain also designates 5 provinces as the Native American Free State. Native Americans will be able to continue their traditional lifestyles in this country, or move to Spain and enjoy a modern lifestyle. Natives are also given full citizen status should they choose to live in Spain. Cost - 7,00,000http://img43.imageshack.us/i/finaltreaty.png/ It won't post for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Russia mobilises its armies, in preparation for the struggle. Archi, whyyyyyyyyy? Not withdrawing doesn't mean attacking. :( Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 In celebration of the Second Battle of Versaillies, an artistic rendering has been hung in the Prussian Military Academy: _________________________________________________________________________________ I had been happy to wait it out, then you started telling me I had to get out or I would be destroyed. And so WW1 starts over 100 years earlier...Germany forced into taking action it didn't want to take, because France refused to give a clear answer. Anyway, now that I am committed to this siege, with the Imperial Forces of France stationed with their pistol to my temple if I retreat, only Doom can prevent this from turning into bloodbath by coming to terms with Imperial France. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I was under the impression that we were trying to figure out a way to allow you to leave gracefully. :blink: As my forces had already withdrawn, I doubt that I will be able to get my forces to France in time. Trol, you'll have to deal with the Prussian forces in France by yourself this time. Unfortunately, my budget is strained as it is, and I won't be able to deploy my army if I want to continue my research with the same level of funding. Sorry Doom, but you're on your own for this fight. Well, hopefully you have Trol. If the war is still going on in 1791, I'll get involved. That's only a week from now. ;) Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 The Netherlands propose a mutual withdrawal in France; All of the Non French countries involved would pull their troops out of the country in a period of 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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