Ulysses Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Hi everyone, i am thinking of fighting steel drags with super antifire pots. I don't have chaotic weapons so that's out of the question. but is Zamorakian spear better or is using Verac's set better? Also, when using the spear, should i use it with ardougne cloak 3 for the +6 stab attack bonus? or would the Soul War Cape be better instead? Thanks:) 'Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.' T.S. Eliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triquos Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Z spear hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Barrows weapons lose every battle unless you NEED the set effect. Verac's hits through prayer, metal drags don't pray, so it's rather useless. Zamorakian Spear for sure. Soul Wars cape has a higher stab bonus, so I don't see where the debate is? ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted August 21, 2010 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 okay thanks, i guess i'll just use zamorakian spear then. 'Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.' T.S. Eliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stingman Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Barrows weapons lose every battle unless you NEED the set effect. Verac's hits through prayer, metal drags don't pray, so it's rather useless. Zamorakian Spear for sure. Soul Wars cape has a higher stab bonus, so I don't see where the debate is? Verac's can also hit through armor. But Dragons don't wear armor either I guess. Anyway, yeah the Z Spear really pwns. Wish I could use it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infi Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Here's my setup for metal dragons if you need one; Of course you're going to replace the Chaotic Rapier/Defender with a Z spear. Also my familiar is a Yak, with 10ish prayer pots. 99 Hits, Attack, Strength, Defence, Mage, Summoning, Slayer, Ranged, 96/99 Prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askthedude Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Barrows weapons lose every battle unless you NEED the set effect. Verac's hits through prayer, metal drags don't pray, so it's rather useless. Zamorakian Spear for sure. Soul Wars cape has a higher stab bonus, so I don't see where the debate is? SW cape has no stab bonus. Pros top + bottom should easily be enough pray bonus for you to take the Ardy cape instead of the SW one. Why can't the Big Bang be done by the hand of God?It could have, but it is next to impossible because it also could have been caused by the flying spaghetti monster, or one of the other infinite number of deity possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 SW cape has no stab bonus. Pros top + bottom should easily be enough pray bonus for you to take the Ardy cape instead of the SW one.Prossy top + sw cape: +20 prayer (10)Prossy top + ardy 3: +14 prayer, +6 stab (8.5)Prossy top + fire cape: +10 prayer, +1 stab, +4 strength (9.25) Torso + sw cape: +12 prayer, +4 strength (10)Torso + ardy 3: +6 prayer, +6 stab, +4 strength (8.5)Torso + fire cape: +2 prayer, +1 stab, +8 strength (9.25) (Strength is 1, prayer is .5, stab is .25.) Note that this method is quite inaccurate but it's fun (to me) to use :P. Either way ardy 3 seems to end really low. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisky_is_Goo Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Depends how cheap you are, if youre a real cheapskate, take the SW top to save on pray pots, if you can stand to lose some cash in the form of pray pots, take Ardy cape for faster kills. (although that difference is fairly negligable) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 SW cape has no stab bonus. Pros top + bottom should easily be enough pray bonus for you to take the Ardy cape instead of the SW one.Prossy top + sw cape: +20 prayer (10)Prossy top + ardy 3: +14 prayer, +6 stab (8.5)Prossy top + fire cape: +10 prayer, +1 stab, +4 strength (9.25) Torso + sw cape: +12 prayer, +4 strength (10)Torso + ardy 3: +6 prayer, +6 stab, +4 strength (8.5)Torso + fire cape: +2 prayer, +1 stab, +8 strength (9.25) (Strength is 1, prayer is .5, stab is .25.) Note that this method is quite inaccurate but it's fun (to me) to use :P. Either way ardy 3 seems to end really low.I think you're undervaluing the stab bonus. I'd value stab at more like .75 on steels and .5 on irons, at least. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 SW cape has no stab bonus. Pros top + bottom should easily be enough pray bonus for you to take the Ardy cape instead of the SW one.Prossy top + sw cape: +20 prayer (10)Prossy top + ardy 3: +14 prayer, +6 stab (8.5)Prossy top + fire cape: +10 prayer, +1 stab, +4 strength (9.25) Torso + sw cape: +12 prayer, +4 strength (10)Torso + ardy 3: +6 prayer, +6 stab, +4 strength (8.5)Torso + fire cape: +2 prayer, +1 stab, +8 strength (9.25) (Strength is 1, prayer is .5, stab is .25.) Note that this method is quite inaccurate but it's fun (to me) to use :P. Either way ardy 3 seems to end really low.I think you're undervaluing the stab bonus. I'd value stab at more like .75 on steels and .5 on irons, at least.Hmmm, good point, putting the ardy cape at 10 or more. The values are more for dust devils anyway. And don't forget they're completely unfounded! Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Barrows weapons lose every battle unless you NEED the set effect. Verac's hits through prayer, metal drags don't pray, so it's rather useless. Zamorakian Spear for sure. Soul Wars cape has a higher stab bonus, so I don't see where the debate is? SW cape has no stab bonus. Pros top + bottom should easily be enough pray bonus for you to take the Ardy cape instead of the SW one. *facepalm* Looked at the wrong column! Yeah, listen to everyone else lol. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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