Bosses

[Synthox]

It seems like nowadays there is really one boss: Nomad.

All the others are mass hunted for items, even Corp, the one that was supposed to solve this problem.

Jagex can release new bosses all they want, but if it really is going to be a "boss" then, at this point, it needs to be like lvl 1200 and hit through prayer or something like that.

 

rate, hate, people probably won't do much else cuz dis n00b maed a post about bosses, on noes.

 

I might be a noob, but I'm entitled to my opinions.

 

Let the thousand-post flamefest BEGIN!

[noble_aloof]

nice stats. post when you can actually get into gwd.

[AnneFrank]

can you kill a boss yet?

 

j/w

 

 

bosses are hard.

[Leximunium]

....

 

Have you even finished recipe for disaster? or desert treasure? lol. Dragon slayer might seem like an easy quest(you might have struggled, but w/e), but that doesnt mean every boss monster is easy. Corp has an extreme risk of dieing, as do most bosses.

[Sir_Squab]

Frankly, I don't think a noob who couldn't have had fought any of the hard bosses is entitled to his own opinion about how hard bosses are. Not trying to be mean or anything.

 

For one thing, Nomad isn't that hard. It just requires more thought then most bosses (Drink pots, turn on prayer, start fight, eat food/brew/drink prayer pots as necessary.) The reason why you don't see high levels constantly pwning him is simply because you fight him once. So once you know how to beat him, you never fight him again.

 

Frankly, if you know what your doing, every boss is easy. So is nuclear physics. All bosses use AI, and humans can beat AI because they can adapt and find a strategy that defeats the AI. The AI only has one strategy. (Well, Jagex occasionally modifies the AI, looking at you Zil, but generally once you find a strategy for a boss you keep using it and perfecting it.)

 

Frankly, the hardest boss is probably one of the Dunge bosses in a 5:5 party, or maybe the Penance Queen; you need to work with other players for these bosses, other players that may simply SUCK.

 

Also, try fighting TD's. Hard to get the hang of prayer and weapon switching and luring; it also requires a lot of concentration. (I've talked to people occasionally while fighting them, and my skills DROP.)

[Bladewing]

I had less trouble on nomad than in team Corp beast, lol.

[Saunamajuri]

Without kyatt and ambush scrolls, I would probably still be at soul wars, trying to kill Nomad.

 

With those, I left the arena with 2 full restores and 3 full brews.

[sohkmj1]

Haha, oh yeah, it's almost as if he wants to get flamed by the 138 boss hunters. :roll: FEED THE TROLL.

[Youmu]

I'm SURE you'll be able to kill a boss with 60 stats. :rolleyes:

 

That being said, bosses in dungeoneering pretty much require cooperation, otherwise these bosses are going to own you hard.

[K4ylan]

I'm SURE you'll be able to kill a boss with 60 stats. :rolleyes:

 

That being said, bosses in dungeoneering pretty much require cooperation, otherwise these bosses are going to own you hard.

 

Yeah, the mole. Maybe.

[Synthox]

Forget about me for a sec. When was the last time you had trouble with a boss? As in you finished, and said, "Gee, that was hard." Maybe corp. Or nomad.

 

I know i can't do bosses. God, you people are shortsighted. Did any of you actually READ the post, or just look at the title, then my stats, and said, "Oh noes, he can't do bosses. He sucks and must be flamed because we didn't read his post."

 

I said I was a noob. A lot of the people in the clan that I'm in boss hunt all the time, and it seems like it's just any old training, except for the money and with a lot of potions.

 

Why am I even here? No one will listen to what I'm saying anyway. This has happened to me before, and I can definitely say it's not my fault.

[Sir_Squab]

Let's see now....

 

Probably last time I solo'ed KQ. She's a jerk, all 3 attack styles and little you can do about it.

 

TD's; again, although I can camp there, it is a bit exhausting. Requires pretty much total concentration to do it.

 

I'd like to bring back my comment about the AI however; over time, humans adapt and come up with strategies to beat the AI. Because we can think. The AI can't, and therefore is inferior to us. Therefore, any boss will be easy once you get good at it, or once you and your team get good at it. (And once you have the stats, of course. Turmoil/Pack Yack/Overloads can probably work wonders.)

 

And I'd like to point out that Nomad's difficulty is overrated imo. Despite the fact that a few people have managed to solo corp (saw a vid of some guy solo'ing him with flowers and Statius Warhammer specials o.O) Corp is still fairly hard methinks.

[Guthorm]

Bosses are too easy, introduce harder bosses.

 

Why not?

[Assume Nothing]

You have no idea of what bosses are.

[sohkmj1]

Forget about me for a sec. When was the last time you had trouble with a boss? As in you finished, and said, "Gee, that was hard." Maybe corp. Or nomad.

 

I know i can't do bosses. God, you people are shortsighted. Did any of you actually READ the post, or just look at the title, then my stats, and said, "Oh noes, he can't do bosses. He sucks and must be flamed because we didn't read his post."

 

I said I was a noob. A lot of the people in the clan that I'm in boss hunt all the time, and it seems like it's just any old training, except for the money and with a lot of potions.

 

Why am I even here? No one will listen to what I'm saying anyway. This has happened to me before, and I can definitely say it's not my fault.

At least you're trying to prove you're not trolling.

Your point is that you assume that bosses are easy based off the standpoint of another's, without actually ever fighting a boss yourself (unless you have a main). While it may not be exactly impossible, it's obviously harder than it looks (or what you think).

Theoretical information =/= Practical hands-on. People can grossly exaggerate.

Also, I don't know why you say it's not your fault? You make these claims without any form of reasoning, simply because you think that "X people in my clanchat have this opinion therefore it is fact". By stating this as if it were fact, you are obviously going to offend people who've fought these bosses, save for a few. You're pretty much inviting these guys to flame you and stuff.

[20Rice04]

The peopole in your clan chat sound like the fisherman from the story of the fisherman who caught a fish that was thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis big.

 

Bosses aren't easy. If you have maxed stats + all the best gear than they're probably like fighting the Barrows brothers with standard gear; more of an inconvenience than a difficulty. But not EVERYONE has a cls, a cr, maxed stats, full vestas/bandos, overloads, dclaws and a pack yak. If someone is finding a boss to easy then the ycan either try another boss, or fight the same boss in a different manner. For the most part I think bosses are fought for loot rather than fun anyway.

[Obtaurian]

I kind of agree, but I kind of don't. I think we definitely need more challenging bosses, but a lot of the current bosses are pretty dangerous, require your full attention, and can be pretty hectic. So I agree in that it sucks that bosses like Graar are camped to death, but on the other hand you have bosses like the Corp Beast that can easily KO you in teams. I think you might be getting a somewhat exaggerated account from your friends.

[Emerson]

....There's obviously no way you've had primary experience with bosses so please reconsider using outside sources [/troll]

 

OT:

Plenty of bosses are "hard". That is, if one is able to classify anything on runescape as hard to begin with.

Never done TD's so I won't break my above line and talk about them but the general consensus that I've seen from others is stated above. Complete concentration qualifies as "hard" I suppose

Another good example is Dagganoth Kings.... which I doubt anyone with those levels could even think about doing. One mistake is pretty much an instant death or end run. Even on a team its really easy to screw up. Jad is rather similar: if you miss the auditory cue you are dealt a swift, fiery death. As for gwd, have you ever seen a missed tank at zamorak? Rather hellish to be on the receiving end of that one. KQ destroys people, I still have nightmares about my trips.

Dungeoneering has plenty of "hard" bosses as well. If you gear wrong for to'kash or astea frostweb just as an example you're pretty much boned from the start. That said, your definition of making bosses "hard" seems to have two things going for it: First is that they would be so OP that any soloer would have to try over nine thousand times and wait for the one lucky time that the "lv 1200 that hits through prayer" doesn't one shot you. Either that or you would have to get a large enough team that it would die before being able to fire off an attack. As for the second method, it can and will be used for just about any boss that jagex comes up with; masses have always been around and always will be.

 

Oh yeah! nomad... anyone with soul split and turmoil/leech range (depending upon personal preference) can destroy him. Either that or a lot of spirit kyatt scrolls. So if you knew anything about him from trying it you would see he isnt so "hard" either.

[Dire_Wolf]

Go try soloing Corporeal beast and see what happens.

[Sir_Kurity]

desert treasure?

 

DT is way overrated in difficulty.

 

Low level pures can do, and have done it with ease, myself included.

[MstrMonopoly]

Lol, you're in my clan =P I think we have a couple of people who enjoy bossing, but we still have a far ways to go before we're maxed. For example, I still need maxed melees and turmoil, Nelson still needs turmoil, etc. I don't think we have a single maxed boss hunter in our clan besides maybe Allan if you include him.

 

So anyway, our clan has like 2-3 people who are 130+, myself included. We boss hunt regularly. That's not to say I find boss hunting easy - I've died twice in the past week after lagging out at Saradomin.

 

Strangely, I find Tormented Demons to be fairly easy - easier than any other "skill" requiring boss like Saradomin, DKs, or Jad/Corp (as opposed to "gear" bosses like Bandos, Arma, Zammy).

 

And KQ is easily my least favorite boss. You really have to watch your HP carefully - it's definitely harder than Bandos or something of that ilk.