cowmaster187 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 i have never done one before and i am looking for some info. this is gonna be the last task that i do for a while cause it will let me reach my goal. any who i plan to buy a z spear and sell it back after the task is done. Stats: 87 att/str/def 88 cons 81 range 75 pray so far this is the setup that i plan to have helm: black mask or dwarven helm?body/legs: black d hideammy: furyweapon: ZSgloves RFD barrowsboots: dragoncape: ardy 3 or skill cape 3 i haven't decided yetring: my trusty lumby 4 ring what i need is some improvements and a good inventory. i have taken a look at the guide and i am still not sure ( it did not have inventories from what i could tell) Thanks EDIT: to Pray? or Not to Pray? that is the new question. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Your setup is fine except that there's no reason you should even be considering dwarven helm. That's just silly. Bring prayer potions, EE, super att/str, bunyip, swallow whole scrolls, and some food. Make sure you have some space for drops too. I would piety them (which would probably make Ardy Cloak better). Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PereGrin Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Without prayer: With Prayer: Pretend those Uni scrolls are bunyip scrolls. You use bunyip scrolls to eat the raw fish the waterfiends drop. You need the cooking level to cook the fish, so 80 cooking is almost necessary because waterfiends drop raw sharks. The scrolls are what allows you to stay for a while, you burn through the food you have pretty fast. I also re-pot when I reach 7 levels above my attack level, if I am using supers. With extremes, it's more like 11-13 levels above. Experiment around with the prayer setup, I don't pray there much, so you might need more or fewer prayer potions. I hope you are using the Fairy Ring to get in to the ancient cavern, I highly suggest unlocking that. Summon the first bunyip just before you go inside, at the obelisk near the fairy ring. This gives you a handy inventory spot to put those crimson charms into. If you have extremes, use them obviously. You can also wear a seers ring for more mage defense. But that should give you the basic idea. I definitely recommend getting a full slayer helm. The +10 mage defense that the hexcrest adds makes a noticeable difference on waterfiend tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Your setup is fine except that there's no reason you should even be considering dwarven helm. That's just silly. Bring prayer potions, EE, super att/str, bunyip, swallow whole scrolls, and some food. Make sure you have some space for drops too. I would piety them (which would probably make Ardy Cloak better). Dwarven helm gives +6 crush, so I wouldn't call it silly. But yes, Black mask/slayer helm is always the best option while slaying. Your setup looks fine, if you can, try upgrading to karils.If you can summon one, use a bunyip with Swallow whole scrolls. If you can't use a bunyip, pray range the whole time, if you can use one, praying may not be necessary. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffwilson99 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 It's silly to trade off 6+ crush for a 15% attack and strength boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 i wasnt sure about the d helm the tip.it guide had it and i wasnt sure why. because i am buying the z spear i dont really wanna spend more money and get karils also since i am just gonan sell it back anyway. i am trying to get a slayer helm. this is my last task for it btw. i do have the fairy ring unlocked ( i did it when i could get to kuradal). also no extremes for me. looks like ill be needing more bunyips and some scrolls. thanks for the helm guys. i think i know what i need to do. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 It's silly to trade off 6+ crush for a 15% attack and strength boost. My point was there was actually a reason for him considering it.... :rolleyes: Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I'd use piety as well, waterfiends actually have pretty high defence (and zspear is not as strong as whip + defender, so it's pretty slow without). Also I don't bother with the super defence, but if you don't pray it's best I guess. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 so i guess my next question is to pray or not to pray? ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I'd highly recommend you pray, they have nice drops so most/all of the cost will be covered and it makes the killing a lot less stressful and faster. I piety if I have raw food/food on the ground and prot range if all I have is an ee spec and any cook sharks they've dropped. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowmaster187 Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 i prayed and it took like 8 trips but i got it done and i got me a FSH. ~~~legoman187~~~ Clicky siggy for blogThanks Pendonub for fancy new sigThieving guide[WIP]Loyal player since May 2005 and member since November 2005 and Tifer for many years~~~legoman187~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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