Varrock Armor 1 vs 2

[Zephy]

I'm about to go smelt+superheat 10k gold ores over the course of the next however long it takes. I am about to get Varrock armor 1. I can do most of 2 pretty easily, except for that whole bit about catching rats. How long does that part take? How much quicker will my smelting be? Overall, would it be worth it? What about for when I go smithing bars into bolts afterwards? Thanks.

[Cheefoo]

Catching the rats doesn't take all too long if you have a wily cat. If you only have a kitten, you should probably raise it to at least adulthood before trying, otherwise it will take a long time.

[Zephy]

I should add, I would also need to do the Ratcatchers quest.

 

Would the time I save over like 10k gold ores and maybe 1k addy bars be worth this?

[Slayer_Jesse]

think of it this way, its worth having for all the smithing you may do in the future.

[Cheefoo]

Ratcatchers can be a pretty long and annoying quest, actually... Varrock armor 2 only speeds up smelting up to mithril, so for addy bars, you'll need to complete the hard diaries for armor 3. I'd probably get it out of the way, as Varrock armor has other advantages too, and is generally worth getting despite the annoying Ratcatchers requirement.

[Zephy]

think of it this way, its worth having for all the smithing you may do in the future.

I'm rather specific in the smithing I'm trying to get, and why I'm trying to get it. I want 80 smithing for stealing creation and to pot to gorgonite in dungeons. I don't expect to smith more in the future, unless untradeable armor comes out. In particular, this is not on the list of 99s I would like to have someday.

 

Anyway, I have a regular adult hellcat.

 

Oh, and uh... make that 10k gold (smelt+superheat) and 5k addy (bars to bolts), or something.

 

To clarify, I want to SMELT gold but SMITH addy. (The smith speedup applies to all bars, right?)

 

EDIT: Would it be faster just to do gold to 80?

[Bladewing]

the quest is the hardest part

[Kimberly]

To clarify, I want to SMELT gold but SMITH addy. (The smith speedup applies to all bars, right?)

 

EDIT: Would it be faster just to do gold to 80?

 

It wouldn't be fast, but it would be cheap. I would recommend if you intent to go through with smithing the addy bars to obtain the Scroll of Efficiency from dungeoneering if you have spare tokens. It's more important to unlock the edgeville furnace than anything else, because the 'increased smithing speed' only happens maybe once every 20 some smelts.

[Zephy]

To clarify, I want to SMELT gold but SMITH addy. (The smith speedup applies to all bars, right?)

 

EDIT: Would it be faster just to do gold to 80?

 

It wouldn't be fast, but it would be cheap. I would recommend if you intent to go through with smithing the addy bars to obtain the Scroll of Efficiency from dungeoneering if you have spare tokens. It's more important to unlock the edgeville furnace than anything else, because the 'increased smithing speed' only happens maybe once every 20 some smelts.

This is the sort of reply I was looking for.

 

Does anyone have specific data on how often you smelt double? How about how often you smith quickly, and how much time that saves? How does this affect my time from bank to bank?

 

Thank you guys.

[Swainy]

[...] the 'increased smithing speed' only happens maybe once every 20 some smelts.

 

Kinda confusing since you first say smithing, then smelting.

 

 

From my experience of gold-smelting extensively, i find it activates far more frequently than "once every 20".

 

On average it'd save time on 1-5 pieces of gold per inventory. Sometimes it activates 3 times in a row, it's not entirely consistent.

 

Smithing on the other hand, depends what you're making. If you're using single or double bar items then it'll be somewhat noticeable. I feel it occurs less often than smelting. 3+ bars you won't see much of a benefit.

[Kimberly]

[...] the 'increased smithing speed' only happens maybe once every 20 some smelts.

 

Kinda confusing since you first say smithing, then smelting.

 

 

From my experience of gold-smelting extensively, i find it activates far more frequently than "once every 20".

 

On average it'd save time on 1-5 pieces of gold per inventory. Sometimes it activates 3 times in a row, it's not entirely consistent.

 

Smithing on the other hand, depends what you're making. If you're using single or double bar items then it'll be somewhat noticeable. I feel it occurs less often than smelting. 3+ bars you won't see much of a benefit.

 

I didn't see it as confusing because I was talking about smithing for the addy bars and smelting for the gold. Mentioning how it affects smithing is pretty useless, since most people use platebodies and they go so quick that the time saved is negligible. Bringing it up is nice I guess, but a useless factoid.

 

As for your rates, it's random. I notice it more on average as once every inventory in say, 20k smelts. What you described happens too on occasion, but that's just luck than a concrete ratio.

[Runecrafts]

Why not get 72 smithing and get varrock armor 3? :)

[Quyneax]

If you are going to smith adamant bolts, don't bother with the scroll of efficiency, as it only affects items made of 3 bars and more.