Space

[Earth]

Hmm.. So, i'm basically the person who sets up the bases, then? Or the Ads. Whatever works.

[Corvus]

I thought those were pretty much the only two reasons?

 

Regardless, it will be discussed after more research is done and more simulations are completed.

 

And I was unaware that we had quantum engines... Probably should have put those onto the station instead.

 

As Always I am just looking into a concept for creating a vessel and I do not know if we actually have the tech to carry through the design, instead I make more of a Wishlist to summarize the concept (in this case a high speed transport vessel using stealth technology). I would assume that Quantum Engines are more expensive than Ionic engines which is one reason they would not be ideal for the Station, given that putting engines on the space station was for general mobility for mining purposes and very minor dodging the extremely low speed is suitable for the price of the engines. I personally would assume that making the station worthy of Inter-System travel is both infeasable and inadvisable, as trying to use a hyperdrive on it would either cause a Spontaneous Mass Existance Failure or cause the station to blow up. (this would likely happen even with major navigation within the system as its mainly an issue of us turning the Base that we got allowed being a base to turn into an extremely large vessel)

[Earth]

I'll get to work on the maintenence ship asap. I'm also thinkibng of splicing it with a luxury ship, so it can be our on the go crew quarters and the maintenence ship.

[archimage_a]

*That means 4 micro-ion drives would be able to accelerate the androids at up to 100,000 m/s, or 6000 km/h (3730 mph).

Not quite...

Imagine you have 4 car engines connected to a crankshaft. If you have each engine developing 40 miles per hour then the car will travel at 40 miles per hour, not 160 miles per hour.

There is additional power there, so a car with 4 engines can travel at 40 miles per hour up a steeper hill than a car with 1 engine...But that is a seperate function.

 

An Ion Engine (and all other engines in game) function on the same principle once a certain limit has been reached...

 

 

 

 

End of the day you can propel androids really fast if you like, but acceleration curves of 100,000 m/s are just not gonna happen...since 200 kilograms becomes 20 million kilograms...

 

*Archi, did I finish the ocarina before we logged off? I'm curious how that'll turn out.

 

Yup

 

*Nope. Some of our old weaponary was generally destroying stuff as well.

 

Indeed, a cannon would blast through a wall, or at least dent it.

In the age of shields and armour though you need high powered weapons to make a dent in a human.

And in the age of constant war, armouring and shielding walls to the same degree as soliders just isn't gonna happen.

 

That...and Weapon researchers need to make a living, so weapons get ever more powerful...As in Hegemony, the fact that some of the weapons were powerful enough to blow away small planets wasn't enough when enemies had shields capable of absorbing that damage.

 

*As Always I am just looking into a concept for creating a vessel and I do not know if we actually have the tech to carry through the design

 

Quantum Engines are quite a way off, as they are at the end of a 'tech tree'.

 

*as trying to use a hyperdrive on it would either cause a Spontaneous Mass Existance Failure or cause the station to blow up

 

A hyperdrive would just require a large amount of stored power/take longer to transverse the distance.

 

Flying around as a base is possible, but would involve large amounts of waiting around, since you are talking about a vessel that travels at a snail's pace.

[The_Mather1]

While I do understand your analogy, it is rather inacurate, there are several reasons for that:

1 The ion drives exert their power directly into space, there is nothing linking their output together, something which is comparable to a racing boat with multiple engines.

2 The only actual speed limit for an ion drive is c since there is no resistance in space, but the mass of the object being pushed limits them.

3 Ion drives propel directly (as mentioned in 1) and space offers no resistance (as mentioned in 2) thus they do not exert power on the same substance (road, water) and each one of them adds to velocity rather than just work in vain until needed.

 

Although I could do this the hard science way, if you would only tell me the total mass of ions propelled per second I could use this formulas:

c = Speed of light, Mi = Mass of ions, Mo = Mass of object, A = Acceleration, S = Seconds, Vel = Velocity

cMi/Mo=A

AS=Vel

 

Essentially returning: Vel(max)=c

[Retech]

From what I understand, Archi means that you can propel the androids REALLY fast, but the acceleration is going to take some time.

 

 

Unless we're going to go with Tachyons. :D

[The_Mather1]

Ah, I missread.

I did not say I estimated an acceleration of 100,000 m/s, but that I estimated that they could accelerate up to 100,000 m/s, thus have a maximum velocity of 100,000 m/S.

[archimage_a]

1 The ion drives exert their power directly into space, there is nothing linking their output together, something which is comparable to a racing boat with multiple engines.

 

Magnetic Fields take the place of the crankshaft.

Ie. The total magnetic field can only ever be X or lower, thus particle speed can only ever be less than Y. Thus acceleration is capped at Z, regardless of how many engines you have.

 

However more engines allow greater particle density, which can(at grossly inefficent rates) maintain a higher acceleration when under duress. :wall: *

 

2 The only actual speed limit for an ion drive is c since there is no resistance in space, but the mass of the object being pushed limits them.

 

We are talking about acceleration...not speed.

Speed isn't limited by anything except light speed, friction and the energy input.

 

3 Ion drives propel directly (as mentioned in 1) and space offers no resistance (as mentioned in 2) thus they do not exert power on the same substance (road, water) and each one of them adds to velocity rather than just work in vain until needed.

 

Space offers minute resistance, and you have relativistic forces...Not really important, just correcting.

 

I did not say I estimated an acceleration of 100,000 m/s, but that I estimated that they could accelerate up to 100,000 m/s, thus have a maximum velocity of 100,000 m/S.

Tis ok.

 

 

 

*Good if that made sense...if not then lets just go with the soft science approach and say we don't need to use megajoules and newtons since Archi will ignore it in game and just use the Engine infomation he wrote some time ago.

In any event I am gonna take a shower because that was so much waffle on my part.

[archimage_a]

/join #space28 tavern

 

Log:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12603519/Space/Logs/%23space28.Tip.It.log

 

 

Channel is up, though I am not running it yet.

Should be starting between 4 and 4:30

[Earth]

Aww... I missed it?..

[archimage_a]

Indeed, sorry Earth, though we did get this:

 

[16:53] <Faust> Wait, what are we crashing it into?

[16:54] <Drake> Earth, it fits my character's hypothetical backstory slightly

[16:55] <Faust> Faust? *Ahem*

[16:55] <Drake> Earth is also a planet

:thumbsup:

[Earth]

Aww. And i was going to design my ship stuff. Oh well, i'll do it later.

[Leiana]

Damn it. I missed all the important details. Most likely I won't be on for next saturday's session. :'(

[archimage_a]

/join #space29 tavern

 

Logs:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12603519/Space/Logs/%23space29.Tip.It.log

 

 

I will be shelling CD cases for a while(unless things get heavy), so may not instantly respond, though I am here =P

[ouyso]

Player:

ouyso

Name:

Ace Ventura

Position:

(Engineer, Tactical Officer, Science Officer, Medic)

Pet Detective

Nationality:

(British, American, Chinese, Russian, Swiss, Argentinian, Japan, Terran Federation(Europe))

American

Merit: 0

Energy Credits: 0

Inventory: Nothing

Skills: None

 

Technobabble Tokens: 10

 

 

 

1) A workmate tells you they are about to reverse the polarity of their toothbrush, what do you do?

Your toothbrush? U MAD BRO!?!?!?!?

2) You are given a chance to travel back in time, what do you do?

Pet Detective is on the case!

3) A ship decloaks off the starboard bow, what do you do?

DON'T FIRE UPON THAT SHIP! I CAN SENSE A PET INSIDE IT!

4) A race of aliens destroys your shields in a single shot and disables all your weapons and power systems, what do you do?

pwn them noobs with ma laserpiss

5) There is a bomb onboard the ship. The only way to save the ship is to open an airlock which you and the bomb happen to be in, what do you do?

Let the bomb blow up.

6) An alien has taken control of the bridge. A medical officer has prepared a deadly nerve gas to kill the alien, but your captain and three other officers are also on the bridge, what do you do?

Kill 'em all!

7) While working one day you recieve a secret transmission from an unknown source, who claims to be working for the government. The person offers you 20,000,000 energy credits (Enough money to never have to care about anything ever again) to kill a fellow crewmember, what do you do?

As long as it's not a pet, I'd kill him straight away!

8) You feel dizzy and lightheaded, what do you do?

Sleep.

9) You are given the opportunity to open on Broadway, Play the Lead in a Hollywood Film, Take a flight through the Sun, Open a Military Training Academy or Bring about World Peace, which do you do?

Take a flight through the sun ofcourse! Who wouldn't?

10) There are two missiles. You have the ability to destroy one of them. Once is aimed at the Residential Sector and one is aimed at the Industrial Sector. Which missile do you destroy?

None.

[Corvus]

okay, now for an inventory update and a new ship specification concept (which is actually possible at its optimal point with less than 20 research):

Name: Drake

Merit: 0

Energy Credits: 30000

Inventory: 43 lv2 Holodroids, 3 Jormungand (MP-NC), 7 kT resources

Skills: lv5 Snake movement

Technobabble Tokens: 8

 

Developed:

lv 10 Computer Virus

Oxygen Recycler

Lv 2 Hologram projector

Jormungand Alloy

Plasma-Fire extinguisher

Jormungand (F) - restricted Access

Aquanite Alloy

Lv 5 Ion engines and lv 1 C-T engines (collaboration with Jeremiah)

 

Built:

Lv 2 Holodroid/bot

Jormungand (MP-NC)

 

Death count: 1

 

 

Phantasm Class Sub-Escort

 

Sub-Escort Hull - 5 Bays, 1 Weapon slot

Armor - Stealth Armor (Scattering or Crystalline for Offensive Tactical 2 Weapon loadout)

Bay 1: Propulsion - Contra-Terrene Engines lv 1

Bay 2: Control - Master Computer

Bay 3: Sensor - Basic Sensors lv 10

Bay 4: Stealth - Cloaking Device lv 10

Bay 5: Tactical - Tactical Hologram Generator lv 10 (Bay Hologram Projector equipment)

 

Weapon Loadouts

Present Tech 1: Phased-Polaron Beam (Offensive Tactical 1)

Present Tech 2: Wormhole Beam (Dread Tactical 1)

Theoretical Tech 1: Focused EMP Cannon (Offensive tactical 2) - Damage + Comms and Sensor disruption

Theoretical Tech 2: Adrift Cannon (Dread Tactical 2) - Tachyon Projection Cannon with Ionic Disperser effects added

 

Operational Tactics

General: Ship is focused towards preventing damage to itself by employing a double layered ruse by operating its Stealth and Tactical Hologram systems to both hide its true location, and to cause confusion by generating other targets for weapon systems.

Offensive: Employs its limited weapon systems to make use of the situation by physically damaging the opposing vessels

Dread: Makes use of its general tactical abilities to make a truely terrifying experience in order to accomplish its tasks by inspiring fear in those who encounter it, mainly through establishing "The Derelict Fleet" or "The Ghost Fleet" (assuming a single ship's Tactical Hologram Generator can project several Vessels)

[Nexaduro]

Drake... fear you say? Perhaps my studies could be of assistance. :D

[The_Mather1]

Drake, I have already made a focused EMP turret, you can find it in the cargo hold somewhere, what it does is to knock out the other ship for two turns (I think), it can be fired once every three turns and has a... 1 in 30?... chance of hitting.

[Leiana]

Alright, I clearly missed something. It seemes we have a new member, am I wrong? Well if I am correct: Hello new Crewmember! I am Lee (the only human female as far as human crewmembers go)! Occupation: Medic. Btw: Faust and Chi, please stay out of the kitchen. And Chi, medic doesn't equal a pharmasist, medic = doctor(DUUUUUUHHHH!!!!). Hmmmm, maybe I will start a log........again.

[The_Mather1]

That was a friend of mine trolling, he's been here before but never actually done anything.

 

And as for the pharmasist thing, it is alway better to have someone with medical knowledge mixing the drugs, thus you are likely the best at it, me and Drake could do it in theory but anyone else should not ever try to make anything that is supposed to be injected, inhaled or ingested.

 

Also if I may ask again, what wrong was I doing in the kitchen? I was just cooking until Faust decided to [bleep]slap me with his abominable powers.

[Leiana]

Chi, sweety, you always get into trouble of some sort. I had to kill you in like my second session(which has pernamently scarred me for my life)..... had to do an implant on you (lost my dinner doing that)..... had to fix your nose(then lost my dinner again).... what's next? Me having to compleatly reconstruct you? I'd rather not do that. And AI, can I get some more math questions(NOT DEALING WITH FRACTIONS AND PERCENTS AND APPROPRIAT FOR A TENTH GRADER) so I can get some techpoints? Still working on the first 3. And who do I ask for permission to become the chef on the ship? Do I ask Jeremiah?

[Nexaduro]

No, you just cook and hope no one gets food poisoning.

 

And if you do a horrible job, hey, anything's lethal at terminal velocity.

[Nexaduro]

Alright Ouyso, Mather, that's enough. Please do not spam the awesome game threads. :rolleyes:

[Retech]

Alright, I clearly missed something. It seemes we have a new member, am I wrong? Well if I am correct: Hello new Crewmember! I am Lee (the only human female as far as human crewmembers go)! Occupation: Medic. Btw: Faust and Chi, please stay out of the kitchen. And Chi, medic doesn't equal a pharmasist, medic = doctor(DUUUUUUHHHH!!!!). Hmmmm, maybe I will start a log........again.

 

The last human female member was arrested and her spirit came back to blow up one of the fleet's ships. :thumbup:

[The_Mather1]

Lee, except for killing me (which was neccessary since I couldn't move and you couldn't fix me) that is your job, and the implant was neccessary because a fishbowl helmet is not an aproporiate combat aparell.

You can see it this way, since you joined my deathrate has gone down ~1death/week.